Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

[tree3five]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

A click up or down on contact or power for the CPU actually does have a pretty good effect. If you put the CPU at default 5 on power...you will see more HR's for sure and they will punish mistake pitches more frequently. Solid hits where they are is a perfect setting to get a nice hit variety for both human and CPU players.


If your finding the CPU is not scoring enough...keep in mind who is pitching, who you are facing at the plate, are they in a cold spell, are you pitching with a great pitcher...and most importantly how many games have you played?


If after weighing all those factors your still not feeling/seeing it from the CPU offense....click up power to 5 first and leave everything else as is. Play another 7-10 games and see how things pan out.


What is critical to understand about these sliders is they are designed for the player who will actually play most if not all of the 162 games. I can almost assure you that if you play 100-120 games....you will see amazing results, and have a true blast playing The Show. If your playing 50-60 games a season and simming the rest....well these may not cut it.


Baseball is a marathon and the little things as well as the culmative results will play out pretty close to real life with this approach to playing The Show.


I personally play most if not all of my games in a season. When I play a classic season replay....I play every inning. In franchise I tend to play at least 120-130 games and play every spring training game starting in year 2.


I still saw new things on The Show 12 after well over 300 games. I expect to see even more with The Show 13 as the new ball physics are ground breaking for the genere.

Thanks for the help man. If I continue to get worse at pitching, would lowering CPU Contact to 4 be okay to do?

[geisterhome]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Ok listen up everyone . I have settings the way I do because that is how I like the game. For me it plays really tight, gives me the balance I am looking for and fits my skill level perfectly. If your questioning why because your seeing or getting results you don't like, them by all means....change them to your skill level.

But really I have no more feedback to give as to the why as far as the values for the settings. Advice on playing and enjoying the game I am all about it.

I didn't know I wasn't supposed to ask you questions here. I haven't read the whole thread and maybe people have been bothering you for too long already, if that's the case I'm sorry for adding on to it.

I'm not exactly using your slider set, I'm creating my own but I like to get some input here and there especially from the established slider makers here who sort of know what they are doing. I was wondering what your idea behind having the timing at 4 is, to make it easier, more realistic even smth else out or whatever.. Anyways better not to ask too many questions

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I do not have any house rules, but more times than not I take the first pitch unless I have a good hitter up and its a meatball. I use only X (normal swing) never anything else. Everything feels good, I just want to be able to win a few more games, lol. thanks for the help

I think if you started to use contact swing in 0-2 counts (more often with your pitchers when they hit) you'll be impressed with how it will impact your offense.

I use it around 8-10 times per game (more when a pitcher is dominating me, less when I'm seeing the ball well and pounding them).

Nothing raises pitcher confidence like a big old swing and miss (other than a swing and miss strikeout). I think if you focus on bringing your SO's down (whether it be with my advice or on your own), your offensive numbers will be perfect.

My opinion is to focus on that and not change any sliders offensively.

Remember, the average BABIP is approximately .300. If you put only 2-3 more balls in play from now on, you'll have near perfect overall offensive numbers.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Thanks for the help man. If I continue to get worse at pitching, would lowering CPU Contact to 4 be okay to do?

I'd trade Mark Malancon.

Play out your 29 games and post back. If it stays in the neighborhood of where it is now I'd leave it alone. Burnett and Liriano are pitching well so clearly you can pitch great when your pitchers have good stuff.

Otherwise, if it blows up, I'd personally leave the CPU offense alone and raise you pitcher's Control one click.

[tree3five]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I'd trade Mark Malancon.

Play out your 29 games and post back. If it stays in the neighborhood of where it is now I'd leave it alone. Burnett and Liriano are pitching well so clearly you can pitch great when your pitchers have good stuff.

Otherwise, if it blows up, I'd personally leave the CPU offense alone and raise you pitcher's Control one click.

great advice, I think you are spot on. Thanks for taking the time to help me out. I will continue playing as is and see what happens. I think I just needed you guys to talk me off the ledge and stick with it. Thanks a lot. I'll keep you posted.

[BleacherCreature]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Contact swing is your friend, especially with 2 strikes against a pitcher with high confidence.
Don't be afraid to use it with a power hitter either. You can make good enough contact on a ball over the plate and do some damage, including hitting one out.
I faced Verlander in a game earlier and he had 8 K's through the first 4 innings against me. I couldn't hit a thing.
In the 5th I switched to strictly contact swing. I was able to scratch out a couple of runs and continued using it into the 6th and even hit a home run with Granderson to almost get me back into the game.
He did finish with 14 K's and made it into the 9th inning before being taken out after something like 120 pitches.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I didn't know I wasn't supposed to ask you questions here. I haven't read the whole thread and maybe people have been bothering you for too long already, if that's the case I'm sorry for adding on to it.

I'm not exactly using your slider set, I'm creating my own but I like to get some input here and there especially from the established slider makers here who sort of know what they are doing. I was wondering what your idea behind having the timing at 4 is, to make it easier, more realistic even smth else out or whatever.. Anyways better not to ask too many questions

It is just from the experience of playing literally hundreds upon hundreds of games from The Show 2009-present. I have always found (based on my skill level with the game) that I get a great competitive game from the CPU with CPU timing on 4. It is a game balance thing for me personally. I feel they are too perfect on default 5...just my opinion and observation.

I have been bombarded with questions. So sorry for being a little taut.

But the best way to get your sliders tight is just play games...lots and lots of games. The great thing with the Show is once you figure out your wheelhouse between what interfaces you want with pitching and hitting and what skill level fits you (all star, HOF or the hybrid Vet./All Star set) getting the game balanced is really easy as the devs for this game do such high quality work out of the box.

Not much needs to be done.

[Tweeg]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I finally decided to get this game, and I'm so happy to see an Armor & Sword slider set. Year after year, I have been able to apply these settings and never look back. Thanks!

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Contact swing is your friend, especially with 2 strikes against a pitcher with high confidence.
Don't be afraid to use it with a power hitter either. You can make good enough contact on a ball over the plate and do some damage, including hitting one out.
I faced Verlander in a game earlier and he had 8 K's through the first 4 innings against me. I couldn't hit a thing.
In the 5th I switched to strictly contact swing. I was able to scratch out a couple of runs and continued using it into the 6th and even hit a home run with Granderson to almost get me back into the game.
He did finish with 14 K's and made it into the 9th inning before being taken out after something like 120 pitches.

So true. I can't echo this enough. 0-2, 1-2 counts I am all about contact and fighting back in the count. I have even hit some HR's with contact from time to time.

When they introduced the contact swing it was huge.

On another note the AI is really scary human like this year. I was playing the Orioles last night in game one of my three game series against them and I was getting a good helping of first pitch curve balls. So I finally lined one up with of all people Jason Nix and went yard (actually he had 2 dingers in the game). Yankees win in a run away 9-2 as CC notches his second win in a row after his opening day disaster.

Ask me if he started me again with first pitch curve balls again after that blast.

Awesome stuff.

[breadnbuttersports]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Idk what it is, but somehow I enjoy batting on Broadcast camera view. I feel like I can track the ball a lot better, but the game I had last night was so frustrating I ended up shutting my game off. I was the padres facing the dodgers and got rung up 12 times at the plate. Seems like everytime the pitcher picks at the right top zone of the plate i always strike out. Plus not seeing as many HR swing specials. Just gets frustrating and I dont want to switch to hybrid cause i feel like its cheating in a way. Ill try playing more games. Another thing i noticed. I can never get solid contact on guess pitch 1/4 even when i pick the right pitch and location. Another question i noticed...when you hold R2 and move the right joystick it vibrates, would that be the direction you want to hit the ball?

[BleacherCreature]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Another question i noticed...when you hold R2 and move the right joystick it vibrates, would that be the direction you want to hit the ball?

Yes. But remember if the pitch isn't in the right spot to hit the ball where you want to it will usually result in a weak out and not achieve what you intended to do.
If you're trying to hit a fly ball and the pitch is a sinker or something low in the zone there is a good chance you will not hit that fly ball.

[Armor and Sword]

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Idk what it is, but somehow I enjoy batting on Broadcast camera view. I feel like I can track the ball a lot better, but the game I had last night was so frustrating I ended up shutting my game off. I was the padres facing the dodgers and got rung up 12 times at the plate. Seems like everytime the pitcher picks at the right top zone of the plate i always strike out. Plus not seeing as many HR swing specials. Just gets frustrating and I dont want to switch to hybrid cause i feel like its cheating in a way. Ill try playing more games. Another thing i noticed. I can never get solid contact on guess pitch 1/4 even when i pick the right pitch and location. Another question i noticed...when you hold R2 and move the right joystick it vibrates, would that be the direction you want to hit the ball?

Don't use guess pitch.....ever. Break that. I only have it on the settings to pull back R2 to get a quick pitch history in-game.


You really do not need guess pitch. Just learn how to read the ball out of the pitchers hand and you will be golden, draw walks, get great solid hits etc.


I have tried playing the old school Bases Loaded broadcast view with hitting and while I love the look.....I find myself not hitting as well. It is very cool though I agree.

[RogueHominid]

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Idk what it is, but somehow I enjoy batting on Broadcast camera view. I feel like I can track the ball a lot better, but the game I had last night was so frustrating I ended up shutting my game off. I was the padres facing the dodgers and got rung up 12 times at the plate. Seems like everytime the pitcher picks at the right top zone of the plate i always strike out. Plus not seeing as many HR swing specials. Just gets frustrating and I dont want to switch to hybrid cause i feel like its cheating in a way. Ill try playing more games. Another thing i noticed. I can never get solid contact on guess pitch 1/4 even when i pick the right pitch and location. Another question i noticed...when you hold R2 and move the right joystick it vibrates, would that be the direction you want to hit the ball?

I tried this just for kicks as well, mostly out of frustration at striking out too much on other views, and I really liked it. I think I settled on either Outfield or Pitcher Wide, but batting "backward" is fun. I think I get a better read on breaking pitches and low stuff. I have an issue getting my timing down, but other than that I like it.

[Brandwin]

Speaking of contact - I use it a lot as well. I've always hit a few out using contact.

I never use power swing though. Always seems to be a weak hit when I use it

[Chetballard]

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I thought I would post the last 25 games or so, I have played using Armor&Sword hybrid slider settings. No box scores just simply posting the final scores. I am using the Oakland A's with no roster changes from their current team. I am just simply posting what my games have been like using the sliders, and I play every game in my season. I currently have won 8 games in a row. The A's are actually really good in this years show. I think the sliders seem to play out well
vs. Astros
L 3-4
W 5-3
W 6-3
vs. Tampa Bay
W 5-3
W 5-2
L 3-10
vs. Boston
W 5-4
L 4-5
W 5-3
vs. Baltimore
L 0-4
L 2-9
L 3-8
W 5-3
vs. LAA
W 2-1
L 1-8
W 7-2
vs. NYY
L 1-2
L 3-4
W 9-5
vs. Cleveland
W 5-4
W 8-2
W 4-3
W 3-2
vs. Seattle
W 2-1
W 7-5
W 6-5