Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

[mlblover15]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Would this be a good set for someone that is trying to get off of rookie and into veteran or All-Star. I'm starting to see the ball better and can be somewhat selective. meaning i can kinda see the ball coming in high and stuff. However,Once i go to Veteran my strike outs go from 1-3 per game up to clsose to 10 per game.

Due to the fact that i have a super bad habit of being a free swinger, which is how i have such low strike outs on Rookie. However what that causes me to do on Veteran is increase my strike outs insanely.

so should i go ahead and try this slider set going forward???

[Chetballard]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Would this be a good set for someone that is trying to get off of rookie and into veteran or All-Star. I'm starting to see the ball better and can be somewhat selective. meaning i can kinda see the ball coming in high and stuff. However,Once i go to Veteran my strike outs go from 1-3 per game up to clsose to 10 per game.

Due to the fact that i have a super bad habit of being a free swinger, which is how i have such low strike outs on Rookie. However what that causes me to do on Veteran is increase my strike outs insanely.

so should i go ahead and try this slider set going forward???

Yes it does not hurt to try, only way to get better. Just don't do like I have done in the past and adjust sliders all the time. Just be sure to play several games with the hybrid hitting settings. Just stay calm at the plate, use contact swing when behind in count, or when you just need a simple single. Contact allows you to stay behind the plate longer and tend to foul off balls etc, stuff you would miss with a simple X swing. If you cannot get Walks then at least make the pitcher throw a lot of pitches. Don't forget that you can use the right stick to try influence a ground ball to left or right or fly ball

[rspencer86]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Awesome... Thanks man!

Here are my tweaks (A&S original values in parentheses):

Human Timing: 4 (5)
Human Foul Frequency: 4 (5)
Human Reliever Stamina: 2 (3)
CPU Power: 5 (4)
CPU Solid Hits: 4 (3)
CPU Reliever Stamina: 2 (3)
CPU Manager Hook: 5 (4)
CPU Pickoffs: 5 (4)
Pitch Speed: 8 (5/Personal Preference)
Fielder Run Speed: 2 (4)
Wind: 8 (4)

As you can see, mostly just a nudge here or there. Gave the CPU offense a bit of a bump since I want to feel nervous when the big boppers of the game step into the box. Wind I bumped up just because I think it gives the games more variety and will help give you the scorefests and pitching duels.

[DJ]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Well, I'm back after a full weekend of testing (including a game before work this morning.

Just some of my observations:

As I said before, I gave the hybrid settings a lot of testing when they first came out. I'm talking about 25-30 games, minimum. That, plus the dozen games that I played this weekend gives me a pretty good sample size of how it is to play with these sliders.

As far as hitting goes, like I said earlier, any tweaks that I make will be on Veteran. So far, the only thing that I've changed is by raising Human Contact by 1 click, and I'm finally starting to see some good results. One thing I noticed right away with the Hybrid sliders is the ability to actually hit Home Runs!!! Feels good to see sluggers like A-Gon and Hanley get some love over the fence.

For the CPU, I increased contact and timing by one click, just because I felt like the CPU offense was a lacking. I play with Human Control and Consistency on 3. Have been since late April. So far, I'm liking the results that I'm seeing. Getting decent K rates with good hit and run totals.

For CPU Pitching, I lowered Control and Consistency down one click to 3. The main reason for this goes back to my original observation with Veteran hitting, and that is the CPU pounds the strike zone significantly more on Veteran than All-Star. Even with Control/Consistency at 3, pitchers are pretty consistently in the high 60%'s for overall strike frequency, and right around 60% for first pitch strikes (which is good). Simply put, the pitchers put more balls over the plate, which leads to more hits/higher offensive output for the human, but also leads to a higher overall strike percentage. I'm going to continue to test with both and 3, as I think going any lower will start screwing up the first pitch strike percentage, which is definitely not what I want to do. I think that's one of the most important stats of the game. I'm struggling to get 1-2 walks per game, but that's more my issue. I'm a fairly patient hitter, but I get kinda jumpy in the box on full counts, and I end up swinging at pitches out of the strike zone.

The good news is, I'm finally starting to see light at the end of the tunnel after struggling so mightily at the plate when I was playing on All-Star. Maybe a few more test games and subtle tweaks, and I might actually get to start a REAL franchise (for the third time). LOL

I'm glad I went to Veteran. Any hit to my pride has been greatly outweighed by the fun that I'm having playing the game again.

That's awesome, and thanks for the feedback. I've been getting similar results since moving to the Hybrid set. I was on the verge of throwing in the towel on 13 but the switch to Veteran hitting has made the difference, as I'm now having fun.

Like you and a few others, I'm bumping up CPU Power and Contact to try and get more offense out of the CPU.

[mlblover15]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Yes it does not hurt to try, only way to get better. Just don't do like I have done in the past and adjust sliders all the time. Just be sure to play several games with the hybrid hitting settings. Just stay calm at the plate, use contact swing when behind in count, or when you just need a simple single. Contact allows you to stay behind the plate longer and tend to foul off balls etc, stuff you would miss with a simple X swing. If you cannot get Walks then at least make the pitcher throw a lot of pitches. Don't forget that you can use the right stick to try influence a ground ball to left or right or fly ball

yeah other than IBB i can't really work the walk, i get too aggressive with two strikes. About the only way i can get walk is on the ever so rare occasions where i can get to a 3-0 or 3-1 count. Again once i get a 2 strike count against me im pretty much toast. Because i will swing and often do swing at balls from the sky down the the dirt, and also from dugout to dug out.

I can clearly see the ball going out of the zone, however i cant stop myself from committing to swinging at it. it is so bad that i have hit the button to swing on pitch outs, or balls that make you jump out of the way. i have absolutely NO plate disipline.

The only thing i can think of doing to get better is start putting down the controller until i get to two strikes then take my life into my own hands...

[zkiesel]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

yeah other than IBB i can't really work the walk, i get too aggressive with two strikes. About the only way i can get walk is on the ever so rare occasions where i can get to a 3-0 or 3-1 count. Again once i get a 2 strike count against me im pretty much toast. Because i will swing and often do swing at balls from the sky down the the dirt, and also from dugout to dug out.

I can clearly see the ball going out of the zone, however i cant stop myself from committing to swinging at it. it is so bad that i have hit the button to swing on pitch outs, or balls that make you jump out of the way. i have absolutely NO plate disipline.

The only thing i can think of doing to get better is start putting down the controller until i get to two strikes then take my life into my own hands...

I've been right where you are. Swinging at pitchouts, balls in the dirt, etc. It's frustrating, I know. Lately, I've forced myself to be patient. One of the key things is lowering pitch speed. I've lowered it all the way down to 2 on All-Star. It doesn't change much with timing, and it lets you work walks. I always take the 1st pitch of every at-bat, and only use the power swing on 1-0, 2-0, or 3-1 counts. On 3-0 counts, I watch the pitch every time. I also use contact swing on any 2-strike count.

Also, watch the pitch as it comes out of the pitcher's hand. Recognizing balls and strikes ASAP is key. It seems like you're recognizing balls and strikes, but it's a split-second too late to where you've already swung. I still swing at terrible pitches sometimes, but I'm usually able to get 1-3 walks per game and my strikeouts hover between 7-10.

Lastly, don't be afraid to take strikes, especially ahead in the count. Whenever I'm up in the count, I tell myself to look for a pitch to drive. I don't want to be swinging at a sinker at the bottom of the zone until I get 2 strikes on me. Look for a hanging breaking ball, or a fastball up higher in the zone.

[mlblover15]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Believe me i do my level headed best to swing at pitches up in the zone, and i have success to a degree. However due to the fact that they throw so many pitches in the zone it is all you can do is swing, on rookie on default.

That is my problem I get so used to having a lot of pitches in the strike zone that once i go up to a higher level i cant seem to not "see pitch swing at pitch."

I think i will go up to Veteran and try the Hybrid sliders and see what comes of it. I mean i have my other franchise the Pirates and in the second and third game of that opening series i scored 20 and 23 runs respectively.

I have the dodgers in the next series so i dont see myself having that kid of success against them. This is what made me stop and think about all this the other day.

i mean it is my offense is what im wanting to tweak. My pitching is fine i give up walks and have strike outs and im not super sharp with my command on default with meter.

Ok i have made up my mind.. i am going for it... i will do this starting Thursday on my first day off. i will load the sliders into both of my franchises. I just hoe i can stick with them because i know that once i start to struggle with them and start losing games left and right i will want to just turn off the game and start over.

i have to overcome that urge...

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

You must commit to taking your lumps as you work through the learning curve.

Once you break through.....the game goes to another level. Instead of it seeming like a swing fest...your in deep count 7-9 pitch on the edge of seat showdowns.

That is the essence of The Show and why it is the very best baseball game ever made.

Some games your drawing walks, and racking the opposing pitcher, and some games your getting fanned 10 times in a game. The variability is awesome. And playing at least 100 games in your respective franchise/season to me is a must to fully appreciate the ebb and flow of a season both pitching and hitting. Plus you need the AB's to appreciate how difficult it really is to be a good hitter.


Stick with it.

[zkiesel]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Believe me i do my level headed best to swing at pitches up in the zone, and i have success to a degree. However due to the fact that they throw so many pitches in the zone it is all you can do is swing, on rookie on default.

That is my problem I get so used to having a lot of pitches in the strike zone that once i go up to a higher level i cant seem to not "see pitch swing at pitch."

I think i will go up to Veteran and try the Hybrid sliders and see what comes of it. I mean i have my other franchise the Pirates and in the second and third game of that opening series i scored 20 and 23 runs respectively.

I have the dodgers in the next series so i dont see myself having that kid of success against them. This is what made me stop and think about all this the other day.

i mean it is my offense is what im wanting to tweak. My pitching is fine i give up walks and have strike outs and im not super sharp with my command on default with meter.

Ok i have made up my mind.. i am going for it... i will do this starting Thursday on my first day off. i will load the sliders into both of my franchises. I just hoe i can stick with them because i know that once i start to struggle with them and start losing games left and right i will want to just turn off the game and start over.

i have to overcome that urge...

You're exactly right, the lower the difficulty level the more strikes they throw. I love playing on All-Star because it seems to me that the pitchers are far smarter than they are on Veteran. They set you up with pitches out of the zone, and you really have to try to get pitches to drive, not just pitches somewhere in the zone.

But start out on Veteran. I know I thought I was getting too much solid contact with Veteran. All-Star sees a lot more variety of hits (more weakly-hit balls). It's worth the time and effort to move up to All-Star. One adjustment I made was bumping Human Contact, Power, Timing, and Solid Hits up by 1 on All-Star. It seems to have allowed me to have more realistic dynasty stats (I had 90% of my hitters hitting below .200 with default All-Star sliders).

[RogueHominid]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I'm struggling mightily with strikeouts. I am playing with the All Start set as-is (not the hybrid one), and despite my best efforts I just whiff a lot.

I try not to swing until I've gotten a strike called, unless I'm just feeling frisky. Even so, I'm not able to get into the kinds of foul-off battles that keep at-bats alive.

Suggestions? I don't want to be too drastic, but I'm wondering if any small tweaks will do, or if this is a common issue to be played through.

[rspencer86]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I'm struggling mightily with strikeouts. I am playing with the All Start set as-is (not the hybrid one), and despite my best efforts I just whiff a lot.

I try not to swing until I've gotten a strike called, unless I'm just feeling frisky. Even so, I'm not able to get into the kinds of foul-off battles that keep at-bats alive.

Suggestions? I don't want to be too drastic, but I'm wondering if any small tweaks will do, or if this is a common issue to be played through.

Bump up the Foul Frequency or timing. Could also try lowering pitch speed a click if recognition is your issue. Also, are you using Contact swing with two strikes?

Another thing is that not swinging until strike one may actually raise your strikeouts. Swinging at more pitches early in the count will give you more batted balls in play, reducing the number of chances you have to strike out.

[RogueHominid]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

Bump up the Foul Frequency or timing. Could also try lowering pitch speed a click if recognition is your issue. Also, are you using Contact swing with two strikes?

Another thing is that not swinging until strike one may actually raise your strikeouts. Swinging at more pitches early in the count will give you more batted balls in play, reducing the number of chances you have to strike out.

I think the timing window is my problem. I recognize pitches okay, but I almost never nail a hanging curve or slider with good timing. I might try upping the timing slider one click or try moving to the hybrid set to see if the more forgiving window at that level fixes things.

[mpbaseball22]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I've had pop flies barely out of the infield and runners tagging from 3rd and scoring, is this a game problem or a slider issue? I could post a video if you'd like it seems like its the game to me because the fielder takes his time

[RogueHominid]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I've had pop flies barely out of the infield and runners tagging from 3rd and scoring, is this a game problem or a slider issue? I could post a video if you'd like it seems like its the game to me because the fielder takes his time

I've never seen this personally, and I think I've played about 100 games.

[zkiesel]

Re: Armor & Swords/Marino's - MLB The Show 13 Timed/Classic Sim Sliders

I've had pop flies barely out of the infield and runners tagging from 3rd and scoring, is this a game problem or a slider issue? I could post a video if you'd like it seems like its the game to me because the fielder takes his time

I've seen this twice I believe. Very frustrating.