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  • vcu9
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    • Jan 2013
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    #1

    Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

    I pitch on all-star with my human control and consistency at 0. I also Classic Pitch.

    I have cpu contact and power at 4, and cpu timing at 5 and cpu foul frequency at 7.

    I currently have the solid hits slider at 1 or 2. Do you think that it too low?

    I have been having good results so far. I just don't understand how a person can have the solid hits at 3 or 4, it just seems to high.

    Maybe I am wrong. I just need some input from guys who know and understand the game better than I do.

    Thanks.

    Last edited by vcu9; 03-30-2013, 08:02 PM.
  • xSiQ
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    • Dec 2012
    • 112

    #2
    Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

    Does the CPU ever get any hits against you? Contact & Power at 4 and Solid hits at 1?! on All-Star, that's madness...

    Solid Hits are necessary for balls off the outfield wall or hard hit grounders on the infield that can find their way through. Decreasing the slider that much on All-Star especially will result in too many soft hits and bloops, which leads to more outs that should have been hits and that changes the whole dynamic of the game. The thing about tweaking sliders is changing just 1 always affects multiple outcomes and changing it too severely will make the game very unbalanced.

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    • vcu9
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      • Jan 2013
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      #3
      Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

      what do you think of solid hits on 2 on all-star?

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      • redsfan4life
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2763

        #4
        Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

        I think the hit variety is fine at default this year. Lowering solid hits is not a good thing this year in my opinion.
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        • xSiQ
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          • Dec 2012
          • 112

          #5
          Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

          Originally posted by vcu9
          what do you think of solid hits on 2 on all-star?
          I think if you play on a low difficulty, such as All-Star, then it's reasonable to lower the User hitting sliders to compensate for playing on a forgiving easy mode. But not decreasing the CPU hitting sliders, if anything increasing it or leaving it at default, otherwise that takes away the competition.

          If you're hitting well enough on All-Star that you find it necessary to decrease Solid Hits to 2, then Hall of Fame might be an alternative with the sliders on default. I'm not sure what the point is in playing on a lower difficulty and lowering the sliders when you can increase the difficulty and leave the sliders at default?

          If Hall of Fame were to prove to difficult then it would be wise to consider All-Star with lowered user sliders, but I believe with the lower the difficulty there shouldn't be any reason to lower the CPU's sliders.

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          • Houston
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            • May 2003
            • 4724

            #6
            Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

            Originally posted by vcu9
            what do you think of solid hits on 2 on all-star?
            Anything below 3 on all star is to much of a weak hit making it look like the ball was hit in slow motion. I am all for sift grounders, dribblers etc. I think 4 is just right where you get a little bit of both but not over doing it with 5 or over.
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            • THESHAMISASHAME
              MVP
              • Mar 2013
              • 1482

              #7
              Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

              Solid hits are just a visual , CONTACT is the main slider for hitting
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              • bayman
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                • Feb 2003
                • 359

                #8
                Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                Originally posted by redsfan4life
                I think the hit variety is fine at default this year. Lowering solid hits is not a good thing this year in my opinion.
                I am in total agreement with this statement. In previous years there was too much solid contact and putting solid hits to 0 would maximize hit variety. This year after tinkering for a while, I believe lowering solid hits creates too much poor contact and eliminates the CPUs ability to hit well. My experience is on legend but it will carry over for the CPUs ability on lower levels for sure.

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                • Heroesandvillains
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                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #9
                  Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                  Originally posted by THESHAMISASHAME
                  Solid hits are just a visual , CONTACT is the main slider for hitting
                  Solid Hits does have a direct impact on batting averages, though it's severity has been debated over the years.

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                  • xSiQ
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                    • Dec 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                    Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                    Solid Hits does have a direct impact on batting averages, though it's severity has been debated over the years.
                    I agree, when I first got the game and was testing out the sliders I played 30 games with the Mariners with Solid Hits at 3 and other hitting sliders at default, my team batting average was .219 (on Legend Difficulty)
                    Next 30 games played was with the Orioles and Solid Hits on 4, team batting average .232
                    Since using Solid Hits at 5 (Contact 7 & Power 6), I've used the Phillies, Indians, and Rockies with about 20 games each and I average 5-10 hits per game and .271(PHI) .255(CLE) .260(COL) team batting averages

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                    • nomo17k
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                      By far the most obvious effect you see by varying Solid Hit slider is the fraction of line drives. When you increase SH slider, you will see more line drive hits. And line drives tend to become solid base hits more, effectively raising batting average.

                      So I'd increase this if you feel the game produces too many fly balls and ground balls and need more line drives. Doing reverse for an opposite effect.
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                      • JoeT
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                        • Apr 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                        Originally posted by nomo17k
                        By far the most obvious effect you see by varying Solid Hit slider is the fraction of line drives. When you increase SH slider, you will see more line drive hits. And line drives tend to become solid base hits more, effectively raising batting average.

                        So I'd increase this if you feel the game produces too many fly balls and ground balls and need more line drives. Doing reverse for an opposite effect.
                        I'd have to agree with Nomo. I lowered solid hits to 3 starting last year--mostly to yield a wider variety of hits, loopers, etc. While that seemed to work well, this year I've been much better about tracking my stats (and as Nomo predicted) I was seeing too low a line drive%, and most noticeably, just too many popups and little choppers in front of the plate. So I started by upping solid hits one setting (back to 4) about five games ago, and I'm already seeing better results. Line drive% is about where it should be, and most surprising to me, was I'm still seeing a good number of the hits I was hoping to, bloopers, balls dropping in front of OFs. So it's a small sample set, but the trend certainly looks good. I'm not sure if it's the updated physics, but I think lowering solid hits this year may not be as necessary as it probably was in the past (that's just speculation on my part).

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                        • nomo17k
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                          • Feb 2011
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                          Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                          Originally posted by JoeT
                          I'd have to agree with Nomo. I lowered solid hits to 3 starting last year--mostly to yield a wider variety of hits, loopers, etc. While that seemed to work well, this year I've been much better about tracking my stats (and as Nomo predicted) I was seeing too low a line drive%, and most noticeably, just too many popups and little choppers in front of the plate. So I started by upping solid hits one setting (back to 4) about five games ago, and I'm already seeing better results. Line drive% is about where it should be, and most surprising to me, was I'm still seeing a good number of the hits I was hoping to, bloopers, balls dropping in front of OFs. So it's a small sample set, but the trend certainly looks good. I'm not sure if it's the updated physics, but I think lowering solid hits this year may not be as necessary as it probably was in the past (that's just speculation on my part).
                          Yeah, the ball physics and hit variety have VASTLY improved this year, no previous iterations are even close... I don't see why you need to vary Solid Hit slider to induce more hit variety.
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                          • THESHAMISASHAME
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1482

                            #14
                            Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                            Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                            Solid Hits does have a direct impact on batting averages, though it's severity has been debated over the years.
                            Sure but lowering fielder sliders will also do the same thing as solid hits to a degree but contact is still the major slider for clear success . I mean a ball hit well through timing/contact ect is still a solid hit kind like if youre seeing to many HR s you should lower hit power .
                            By the way im playing on allstar default and the game is amazingly realistic .
                            Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 04-02-2013, 04:15 PM.
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                            • PsychoBulk
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                              • May 2006
                              • 4190

                              #15
                              Re: Need some expert advice .... Is Solid Hits at 1 or 2 not high enough?

                              Originally posted by nomo17k
                              Yeah, the ball physics and hit variety have VASTLY improved this year, no previous iterations are even close... I don't see why you need to vary Solid Hit slider to induce more hit variety.
                              Originally posted by JoeT
                              I'd have to agree with Nomo. I lowered solid hits to 3 starting last year--mostly to yield a wider variety of hits, loopers, etc. While that seemed to work well, this year I've been much better about tracking my stats (and as Nomo predicted) I was seeing too low a line drive%, and most noticeably, just too many popups and little choppers in front of the plate. So I started by upping solid hits one setting (back to 4) about five games ago, and I'm already seeing better results. Line drive% is about where it should be, and most surprising to me, was I'm still seeing a good number of the hits I was hoping to, bloopers, balls dropping in front of OFs. So it's a small sample set, but the trend certainly looks good. I'm not sure if it's the updated physics, but I think lowering solid hits this year may not be as necessary as it probably was in the past (that's just speculation on my part).
                              Couldnt agree more with these two fine men.

                              It seems to me that a lot of slider makers have literally defaulted back to the previous setting in previous games of "oh, one of the first things i have to do is destroy solid hits right down to 1/2" - simply not the case anymore.

                              In years past, solid hits on default would result in balls being lasered everywhere, with little sign of bloopers, choppers and the like - that too is not the case anymore.

                              I have it at 4 and see a nice balance, but im almost certain default would be just fine too.

                              Games changed folks

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