Scoring from 2nd Base

[erod550]

Has anyone else been having problems scoring from 2nd base on base hits? I understand that a line drive right at an outfielder should result in the runner having to hold up at 3rd, but even slow grounders that barely get under a diving outfielder's glove (which are already a rarity as it is) are usually not enough to score an average speed runner from 2nd base, when in real life even the slowest runner will usually score from 2nd on the average single, especially a ground ball single. This leads to games like the one I'm currently playing where I have 11 hits and 2 runs because even if I get 3 singles in an inning, it usually just means no runs and stranding the bases loaded.

The weird thing is this only seems to affect me. The computer can score from 2nd on basically every single they hit, as they should, so I'm hesitant to increase baserunner speed since it will also make them faster as well. The same goes for reducing fielder arm strength, since there's no separate slider for user and CPU speed or arm strength. But it's very rare that I'm able to score from 2nd on a single unless it's a gap shot that they cut off for a single or I get really lucky and the throw is offline, which it usually is not.

Currently I'm playing with baserunner speed at 5 and fielder arm strength at 3.

I should note that this isn't the only area where things are fine for the computer but not for me. The same goes for slow grounders through the infield. It seems like the computer gets a nice variety of ground balls that get through, whereas I do not. If it's not straight up the middle or hit hard between 1st and 2nd or 2nd and 3rd (to the point where it's more of a line drive than a grounder), it just does not get through.

[guitarDADDY1208]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

try targeting the runner on second as soon as you know it's a hit and press X that tells him to round third and keep stride heading to the plate just using the L1 button to advance causes a slight pause rounding bases.

[erod550]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

I do that. I'm not talking about the stumble here. Even when the stumble doesn't happen they have trouble scoring.

[guitarDADDY1208]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

I don't have too much trouble scoring from 2nd my biggest issue is getting the stinking hit with a runner in scoring position my avg WRIP is HORRIBLE!!!!

[erod550]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

I don't have too much trouble scoring from 2nd my biggest issue is getting the stinking hit with a runner in scoring position my avg WRIP is HORRIBLE!!!!

Exactly. Which is why it's so important to be able to score from 2nd on the rare occasion you do get a hit with a RISP. I swear the only runs I score are home runs and the occasional gift of a wild pitch with a runner on 3rd. Otherwise, I just don't score runs.

[Bobhead]

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Are you playing with the throwing meter turned on? The throwing meter creates an imbalance between your average throw speed and the CPU's average throw speed. That could be the cause of your feeling of inequality.

If you are playing with Fielder Speed at default, I'd strongly recommend you reduce that, by at least 2 or 3 points.

try targeting the runner on second as soon as you know it's a hit and press X that tells him to round third and keep stride heading to the plate just using the L1 button to advance causes a slight pause rounding bases.

I do that. I'm not talking about the stumble here. Even when the stumble doesn't happen they have trouble scoring.

There's still going to be a slowdown if you aren't pressing the button early enough. I'm not saying this is your problem but its' something to pay attention to. Your runners will always assume they are stopping at 3rd unless you are already commanding otherwise.

I don't have too much trouble scoring from 2nd my biggest issue is getting the stinking hit with a runner in scoring position my avg WRIP is HORRIBLE!!!!

Work on improving your plate discipline, and consider lowering the Pitch Consistency slider 1 point or so.

[erod550]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

A new one I hadn't seen before, on a single up the middle the third baseman actually ran up into the path of the runner and the runner had to do one of those hands up sidesteps of the third baseman which slowed him down just enough that the perfect (of course) throw from the center fielder was just barely in time to get the runner at home.

Yet another disappointing "feature" of this year's game as that would be called interference in real life since the fielder had no valid reason to impede the baserunner since he was not fielding the ball.

[erod550]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

Are you playing with the throwing meter turned on? The throwing meter creates an imbalance between your average throw speed and the CPU's average throw speed. That could be the cause of your feeling of inequality.

If you are playing with Fielder Speed at default, I'd strongly recommend you reduce that, by at least 2 or 3 points.

Fielder speed is already at 2. And the throwing meter is not turned on.

[Bobhead]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

Fielder speed is already at 2. And the throwing meter is not turned on.

Are you sure? There's also a No Feedback option... your meter could be visually disabled but still turned on.

Anyway I can't think of any other reason your results would be different from the CPU... it could just be in your head, or a product of a small sample size.

[erod550]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

Yes, I'm sure. It's not a delay in throwing. I shouldn't be able to throw out the CPU at home on every attempt to score from 2nd and I can't.

Don't really have any way to prove that it's not in my head other than visually seeing the CPU score from on virtually every single (as they should) and me scoring from 2nd less than half the time. I have not recorded the results of every single AB with a runner at 2nd when a single was hit, so I don't have hard numbers. But it's definitely not small sample size as I've played over 75 games on various slider sets from Armor & Swords to TNK.

[Bobhead]

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There's no delay with the throwing meter, the throw itself changes, and you tend to end up with some weaker throws.

I'm not saying it's definitely in your head, just that it's a possibility. I'll start paying attention to it in my own games and see what I see...

It could also be your choice in slide (or lack thereof), or your choice to use a cutoff man (or again... not using one).

[tril]

Re: Scoring from 2nd Base

1. hit and run. put your man in motion especially on base hits that arent that deep.

2. player speed matters considerably. In end game situations you may want ot put in a pinch runner.

I don't have an issue scoring from 2nd. doesn't happen every time, but I do score from second, and sometimes even score from first.

strategy. that's why this game is so good

[rjackson]

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The command to keep the runner from slowing down at 3rd must be input before the runner is 50% of the way to 3rd base. considering the lead off plus secondary lead, you have VERY little time to make that decision, especially if you lead off the runner at 2nd more than the default amount. This was the problem for me. When you are getting gunned down, check the replay to see if they slowed down, check the ratings of your players and the fielder who threw the ball. It migt be enlightening.

[vcu9]

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Use Sean Jeezy's Speed and Fielding Ratings and the problem is fixed.

[BrianU]

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Not sure what these guys experiences are but here's mine for scoring from 2nd base:

First of all you must learn the proper bra snapping technique. Google it and do the research now it will save you plenty of embarrassment down the road and increase your chances of scoring exponentially.

Secondly watch the hands. Do not act frantically but also do not be too passive. It is a careful balance you must strike that comes from practice. Perhaps you can find a nice tree around the neighborhood to work your magic on and fine tune your style.

Finally whatever you do, DO NOT say I love you. That is an insta buzz kill and only hurt your chances of crossing the plate. Tell her how great you feel around her but never directly use the word love.

God speed my child.