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  • chezel78
    Rookie
    • Jun 2012
    • 163

    #211
    Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

    Originally posted by seanjeezy
    The edits aren't too far off of SCEA's, a couple of boosts/nerfs here and there just so the ratings synch up somewhat with usage %. The idea there is that if a pitcher has more confidence in a pitch he will use it more often, and confidence stems from the command and movement ratings.

    So in short, you don't have to change your sliders.



    Yeah it's 83/65/65
    Thanks Sean for those numbers! And thanks again for the rosters

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    • Acts 4 12
      Rookie
      • May 2014
      • 231

      #212
      Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

      Sean I have been using your pitch edits for years now. I just wanted to say thank you for not only doing this, but sharing the edits with us all via spread sheets and the vault. Your edits have become legendary, so much so that they are the standard for just about every roster. Excellent job once again!

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      • pimpinpidgeon8
        MVP
        • Aug 2005
        • 1408

        #213
        Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

        There were quite a few complaints in regards to audio names, were they all fixed in this roster prior to inputting your pitch edits?
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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #214
          Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

          Originally posted by pimpinpidgeon8
          There were quite a few complaints in regards to audio names, were they all fixed in this roster prior to inputting your pitch edits?
          Naw, didn't really mess with anything outside of pitch edits. I'm sure someone will go through and correct those though.
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          • chezel78
            Rookie
            • Jun 2012
            • 163

            #215
            Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

            Originally posted by Scott
            BAL - SP Kevin Gausman, SP Steve Johnson, SS Alexi Casilla, 2B Jemile Weeks, RP TJ McFarland, RP Brad Brach, RF Henry Urrutia, 3B David Adams, SP Dylan Bundy, SP Tim Berry, RP Suk-Min Yoon, 3B Manny Machado, RP Troy Patton, LF Nolan Reimold, RP Edgmer Escalona
            BOS - RF Bryce Brentz, SP R. De La Rosa, SP A. Ranaudo, 3B Garin Cecchini, SP Allen Webster, SS Brock Holt, C Ryan Lavarnway, RP Drake Britton, C C. Vazquez, RP Alex Wilson, LF Alex Hassan, RF Shane Victorino, RP Craig Breslow, SP Steven Wright, C Dan Butler
            NYY - RP P. Claiborne, SP Bruce Billings, SP Jose Ramirez, SP Shane Greene, C JR Murphy, C Austin Romine, LF Zoilo Almonte, CF Slade Heathcott, SP Bryan Mitchell, SP Jose Campos, C Gary Sanchez, SP Manny Banuelos, RP Cesar Cabral, 3B Alex Rodriguez, SS Brendan Ryan
            TB - CP Kirby Yates, RP Juan Oviedo, SS Hak-Ju Lee, 3B Wilson Betemit, SP M. Montgomery, RP Brad Boxberger, SS Tim Beckham, SP Alex Colome, CF Kevin Kiermaier, SP Enny Romero, SP Nate Karns, RP CJ Riefenhauser, 1B Vince Belnome, RP Jeff Beliveau, SP J. Hellickson
            TOR - SP JA Happ, SP Chad Jenkins, SP Marcus Jenkins, SP Liam Hendriks, CF Anthony Gose, SP Kyle Drabek, RP Neil Wagner, SP Deck McGuire, LF Kevin Pillar, SP Sean Nolin, RP Rob Rasmussen, SS Jose Reyes, CP Casey Janssen, C AJ Jimenez, CF Kenny Wilson
            CWS - RP Javy Guerra, RP Mitchell Boggs, 3B Matt Davidson, C Josh Phegley, SP Dylan Axelrod, CF Jordan Danks, 2B Carlos Sanchez, CF Jared Mitchell, Charlie Leesman, SP Eric Surkamp, SP Andre Rienzo, CF Trayce Thompson, RP Nestor Molina, 2B Gordon Beckham, SS Jeff Keppinger
            CLE - SP Josh Tomlin, RF Carlos Moncrief, SP TJ House, SP Trevor Bauer, RP Nick Hagadone, RP Austin Adams, RP Scott Barnes, 2B Jose Ramirez, SS Justin Sellers, 1B Jesus Aguilar, RP Bryan Price, 3B Erik Gonzalez, RP CC Lee, CF Michael Bourn, 1B Jason Giambi
            DET - SP Kyle Lobstein, 2B Hernan Perez, CF Daniel Fields, RP Melvin Mercedes, RP Jose Ortega, RP Casey Crosby, SS Eugenio Suarez, CP Jose Valdez, RF Steven Moya, 3B F. Martinez, RP Justin Miller, C Ramon Cabrera, SS Jose Iglesias, LF Andy Dirks, RP Bruce Rondon
            KC - SP Danny Duffy, 2B Christian Colon, SP Aaron Brooks, RP Michael Mariot, SP Justin Marks, C Francisco Pena, SP John Lamb, 2B J. Giavotella, RF Jimmy Parades, SP Chris Dwyer, RP Donnie Joseph, CF Lane Adams, 3B Cheslor Cuthbert, RP Luke Hochevar, RP Louis Coleman
            MIN - RP Matt Guerrier, RP Ryan Pressly, SP Scott Diamond, SP Trevor May, SP Logan Darnell, C Eric Fryer, SP Kris Johnson, CF D. Mastroianni, SP Brooks Raley, RP Edgar Ibarra, SS Danny Santana, C Chris Herrmann, 1B Kenny Vargas, 2B Jorge Polanco, CF Max Kepler
            LAA - CF JB Shuck, RF Brennan Boesch, SP Jose Alvarez, SP Buddy Boshers, SS Grant Green, RP Brandon Lyon, RP Michael Roth, SS Thomas Field, 3B Luis Jimenez, RP Cory Rasmus, 1B Efren Navarro, RP Josh Wall, Ryan Brasier, RP Dane De La Rosa, RP Sean Burnett
            OAK - SP Josh Lindblom, 3B H. Nakajima, 1B Nate Freiman, RF Kent Matthes, C Stephen Vogt, CP Joe Savery, 1B Shane Peterson, SP Raul Alcantara, 2B Jake Elmore, SP AJ Griffin, RP Ryan Cook, SP Jarrod Parker, RP Eric O'Flaherty, CF Craig Gentry, RP F. Rodriguez
            SEA - CF Endy Chavez, SP Blake Beavan, 2B Nick Franklin, 1B Jesus Montero, SP Brandon Maurer, SP A. Fernandez, CF James Jones, RP Logan Bawcom, 1B Ji-Man Choi, RP Lucas Luetge, C Jesus Sucre, SP Taijuan Walker, LF Julio Morban, CP Stephen Pryor, SP Hisashi Iwakuma
            TEX - CP Neftali Feliz, SP Nick Tepesch, 3B K. Kouzmanoff, RP Michael Kirkman, CP Ben Rowan, CF Engel Beltre, SS Luis Sardinas, RP Wilmer Font, RP Miles Mikolas, SP Yu Darvish, SP Colby Lewis, 2B Jurickson Profar, SP Matt Harrison, SP Derek Holland, C Geovany Soto
            HOU - SP Collin McHugh, RP Raul Valdes, RP Darin Downs, SP Rudy Owens, RP Paul Clemens, SP David Martinez, 1B Jon Singleton, C Max Stassi, RP Jose Cisnero, RP Chia-Jen Lo, RP Josh Zeid, SP Luis Cruz, CP Jesse Crain, SP Alex White, SP V. Velasquez
            ATL - SP Gavin Floyd, RP Luis Perez, C C. Bethancourt, LF Jose Constanza, RF J. Terdoslavich, CF T. Cunningham, SP Aaron Northcraft, SS Elmer Reyes, RP Carlos Perez, SP Kris Medlen, SP Mike Minor, SP Brandon Beachy, SP Ervin Santana, RP Johnny Venters, RP Cory Gearrin
            MIA - C Rob Brantly, SP Brian Flynn, RP Carter Capps, SP Sam Dyson, RF Kyle Jensen, CF Jake Marisnick, RP A. Caminero, C JT Realmuto, SP Angel Sanchez, SP Jose Urena, RP Edgar Olmos, CF Brent Keys, RP Grant Dayton, 2B Rafael Furcal, 3B Ed Lucas
            WAS - RP Christian Garcia, LF Tyler Moore, RF Steven Souza, RP Ryan Mattheus, C Jhonatan Solano, RP Xavier Cedeno, C Sandy Leon, SS Zach Walters, CF Eury Perez, SP Matt Purke, SP Sammy Solis, SP Felipe Rivero, CF Michael Taylor, SP Doug Fister, LF Jeff Kobernus
            NYM - CP Kyle Farnsworth, SP Jeremy Hefner, SP Jacob de Grom, CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis, C Juan Centeno, 3B Wilmer Flores, RP Vic Black, CF Matt den Dekker, RP Erik Goeddel, RP Ryan Reid, 3B Zach Lutz, SS Wilfredo Tovar, SP Matt Harvey, SP Jon Niese, SP Steven Matz
            PHI - SP J. Pettibone, RP Phillippe Aumont, C Cameron Rupp, RP Jeremy Horst, RP Luis Garcia, C Tommy Joseph, CF Tyson Gillies, LF Aaron Altherr, LF Zach Collier, CF Kelly Dugan, SP Cole Hamels, RP Mike Adams, 2B Freddy Galvis, 1B Darin Ruf, SP Ethan Martin
            CHC - RP Blake Parker, 2B A. Alcantara, RP Neil Ramirez, SP Chris Rusin, CF Matt Szczur, 3B C. Villanueva, RF Brett Jackson, SP Dallas Beeler, SP J. Sanchez, 2B Logan Watkins, RP Zach Rosscup, RF Jorge Soler, SP Jake Arrieta, RP Kyuji Fujikawa, RP Arodys Vizcaino
            CIN - SP Carlos Contreras, SP David Holmberg, LF Juan Duran, SP Ismael Guillon, SP Chad Rogers, CF Y. Rodriguez, 1B Donald Lutz, RP Daniel Corcino, CP Aroldis Chapman, SP Mat Latos, RP Sean Marshall, C Devin Mesoraco, 3B Jack Hannahan, 2B Skip Schumaker, RP J. Broxton
            MIL - SP Michael Fiers, RP Alfredo Figaro, SP Jimmy Nelson, LF Caleb Grindl, 1B Hunter Morris, SP Hiram Burgos, 2B Elian Herrera, RP Jose De La Torre, RP Michael Blazek, SP Ariel Pena, RP Rob Wooten, RF Jason Rogers, RP K. Shackelford, SP Brooks Hall, RP Tom Gorzelanny
            PIT - RF Gregory Polanco, SP Jeff Locke, SP B. Cumpton, RP Jared Hughes, C Omir Santos, 1B Andrew Lambo, 3B Brent Morel, SP Phil Irwin, LF Jaff Decker, RP Duke Welker, 1B Chris McGuiness, SS Alen Hanson, SP Casey Sadler, C Chris Stewart, SP Joely Rodriguez
            STL - LF Oscar Tavares, SP Tyler Lyons, 2B Mark Ellis, CF Randal Grichuk, CF Rafael Ortega, RP Eric Fornataro, 2B Greg Garcia, RP Sam Freeman, C Audry Perez, RP Jorge Rondon, 3B Jermaine Curtis, LF Mike O'Neill, SS Aledmys Diaz, SP Jaime Garcia, RP Jason Motte
            ARI - SS Didi Gregorius, SP Charles Brewer, SP A. Sanabia, CF Ender Inciarte, RP Joe Paterson, RP Eury De La Rosa, SP Zeke Spruill, RP Kaleb Fleck, LF Alfredo Marte, SP Chase Anderson, SP Patrick Corbin, SP Daniel Hudson, RF Cody Ross, RP David Hernandez, RP Matt Reynolds
            COL - 2B Josh Rutledge, C. Friedrich, SP Jordan Lyles, C Michael McKendry, RP Rob Scahill, LF Kyle Parker, 3B Ryan Wheeler, SP Tyler Matzek, SS Rosell Herrera, RP Kraig Sitton, SS Cristhian Adames, RP Raul Fernandez, SP Jhoulys Chacin, RP Boone Logan, SP Jayson Aquino
            LAD - 2B Alex Guerrero, SP Stephen Fife, C Tim Federowicz, RP Jose Dominguez, SS Carlos Triunfel, RP Colt Hynes, SP Matt Magill, CF Nick Buss, SS E. Arruebarena, C JC Boscan, RP Jarret Martin, SP Clayton Kershaw, CF Matt Kemp, SP Josh Beckett, SP Chad Billingsley
            SD - SP Juan Oramas, SP Burch Smith, 1B Kyle Blanks, SP K. Sampson, CF R. Fuentes, 2B Alex Castellanos, SS Ryan Jackson, RF Rymer Liriano, SS Jace Peterson, SP Jesse Hahn, RF Yeison Asencio, SP Josh Johnson, LF Carlos Quentin, CF Cameron Maybin, SP Casey Kelly
            SF - RP George Kontos, CF Gary Brown, SP Mike Kickham, SP Jake Dunning, SP Edwin Escobar, SS Nick Noonan, RP Heath Hembree, RP Erik Cordier, 3B Adam Duvall, 1B Angel Villalona, 2B Marco Scutaro, RP Jeremy Affeldt, SP Jose Depaula, RP H. Strickland, SP Kendry Flores

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            All Credit goes to seanjeezy for these great rosters.
            Scott,

            Are these 25 man rosters still in the vault? I cant seem to find them

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            • Scott
              Your Go-to TV Expert
              • Jul 2002
              • 20032

              #216
              Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

              Originally posted by chezel78
              Scott,

              Are these 25 man rosters still in the vault? I cant seem to find them
              Yes, I haven't taken them down.
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              • RyanWreck
                Rookie
                • Jun 2014
                • 13

                #217
                Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                Impressive as always, you do a really awesome job with these. The first thing I do whenever a new show or updated roster comes out is edit the pitches. As someone who pitched pretty much their entire life up through 4 years of College I'm very anal and meticulous about the pitches because it isn't just a small part of the game that can be overlooked if one wants realism, at least that's how I feel. And from your contributions with these lists, and the effort you obviously put into them I presume you are of the same mind.

                The one minor criticism I have, and sorry if I repeating what someone else has already said or something you have already answered, is the amount of Running Fastballs you are using in your edits. It seems that you are replacing some guys' 4-Seamer's with the RFB as I understand it from your description in the OP and from what I have observed in game? I can understand why you do this, it does make sense because most pitchers have natural arm-side run or tailing action on their 4FB's, and some others even have natural cut on theirs so I agree with your assessment in general. However, for the video game itself I believe that the RFB is based off of the 2-Seam grip rather than the 4FB (you can actually see that this is in fact a 2-seam grip if you throw a RFB and then zoom in on the grip in replay). There are guys who throw this type of 2-seam FB regularly, and some like Gausman and Seth Maness throw what they refer to as (and what brooksbaseball has labeled) a "Sinker using a One-seam Fastball grip", which you can see on their Brooks landing pages (couldn't link it myself due to my post count). Darvish also has this pitch in his repertoire (what pitch doesn't he have, though?), I believe his so called "Shutto" pitch he threw against Napoli was this "One-Seam". Because you said you use Brooks I would imagine that you probably acknowledge that there is importance in the grip and not just movement and that's why I decided to actually post this and see what your opinion of this interpretation is instead of just editing my rosters for myself without sharing. In any case my reflection is that the 4FB should be left as they are even if they have some natural run to it since we generally understand that most 4FB do have run in real life but still choose to acknowledge that they are indeed your basic 4-Seam Fastballs. It is just my opinion that the 2FB is the pitch that should be edited and replaced as a RFB for those pitchers who throw that type of hard running 2-seamer.

                I was also wondering about the method/formula you base the movement/break on. Do you use the release point for all pitches? I only do that for their 4-Seam fastball (if they throw one) and then base the movement of the rest of their repertoire off of the 4FB rather than release point because of the developers who have stated that the pitch movement indicator is based off of a straight fastball. If they don't throw a 4FB, which surprisingly there are quite a few of them, than I do use the release point on ever pitch.

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                • Pitbullz4Life
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 217

                  #218
                  Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                  Great rosters.. Looking forward to finally starting up a season with Boston.. Only things is I don't see Stephan Drew..

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                  • Scott
                    Your Go-to TV Expert
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20032

                    #219
                    Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                    Originally posted by Pitbullz4Life
                    Great rosters.. Looking forward to finally starting up a season with Boston.. Only things is I don't see Stephan Drew..

                    That's because their based on opening day, look in the FA list.


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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #220
                      Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                      Originally posted by Scott
                      That's because their based on opening day, look in the FA list.


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                      I don't remember if it was said, but is it V1 or V2 of OSFM?

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                      • Scott
                        Your Go-to TV Expert
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20032

                        #221
                        Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                        Originally posted by DookieMowf
                        I don't remember if it was said, but is it V1 or V2 of OSFM?

                        V2 I believe


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                        • Houston
                          MVP
                          • May 2003
                          • 4729

                          #222
                          Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                          Great work sean. Can you please tell me how far in the organizations were pitch edits done?
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                          • xMr_PinKx
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 13

                            #223
                            Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                            Does anyone have these rosters updated transaction wise to the current date?

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                            • Dylonus
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 106

                              #224
                              Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                              Did you edit just the pitches and control, etc. Or did you edit the attributes like K/9 and such as well?

                              I ask because I found some ALARMING attributes. Seeing Chad Qualls higher overall than Tony Watson made my jaw drop.

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                              • gman2774
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 1067

                                #225
                                Re: OSFM Pitch Edits 2014

                                Seeing a ton if user walks. All Star hitting with CPU control, consistency, and frequency all at 5. Rockies vs Marlins 6 walks in game one and 9 walks in game 2. Anyone else seeing similar results using these pitch edits? Small sample size but I've never seen walk rates that high. Usually drawing walks is a struggle and most adjust down CPU pitching sliders to assist with drawing walks.

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