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  • Steelers=SuperBowl
    Rookie
    • Oct 2010
    • 143

    #1

    speed question

    I can't seem to find an answer using the search feature.

    How are the speed ratings determined for OSFM rosters? It seems like all my guys have low speed ratings

    Any background would be appreciated
  • Steelers=SuperBowl
    Rookie
    • Oct 2010
    • 143

    #2
    Re: speed question

    So 131 views and no response.

    Does this mean there is no method behind the madness?(aka they just guess a number they want)?

    I know that alot of the other attributes are determined with calculators and statistical trends.

    So speed...not so much??

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    • Mizzou24
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 2978

      #3
      speed question

      Not sure how they did it I'm using for my roster speed rating on fan graphs mixed with the wSB rating to determine speeds

      Can't remember specifics guys like Hamilton have 99 speed see Gordon I believe only two that fast

      Bourjes 86 speed

      Tavares was like 65-68 speed

      Holliday and Craig 45-58 speed can't remember specifics

      Molina was in the 20s

      So pretty accurate to real life on the testing I did.
      Last edited by Mizzou24; 06-17-2014, 12:40 PM.
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      • mizzousec
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        • Jun 2012
        • 17

        #4
        Re: speed question

        Originally posted by Mizzou24
        Not sure how they did it I'm using for my roster speed rating on fan graphs mixed with the wSB rating to determine speeds

        Can't remember specifics guys like Hamilton have 99 speed see Gordon I believe only two that fast

        Bourjes 86 speed

        Tavares was like 65-68 speed

        Holliday and Craig 45-58 speed can't remember specifics

        Molina was in the 20s

        So pretty accurate to real life on the testing I did.
        What exactly are you doing to come up with speed ratings? I hate the speed ratings in the game and want to do my own but can't find like any graphs ranking the fastest players in baseball or with a speed stat. Please help me out! By the way MIZ!

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        • Mizzou24
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 2978

          #5
          Re: speed question

          It's on fangraphs it's an actual rating named spd.

          ZOU!


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          • mizzousec
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            • Jun 2012
            • 17

            #6
            Re: speed question

            Originally posted by Mizzou24
            It's on fangraphs it's an actual rating named spd.

            ZOU!


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            Thank you! Is there any formula you are using or way to combine spd and wSB that helps you come up with speed ratings like how to determine their speed in the game? Like how did you come up with say a 78 speed for peter burjous. I'm being annoying I know.

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            • Steelers=SuperBowl
              Rookie
              • Oct 2010
              • 143

              #7
              Re: speed question

              Originally posted by Mizzou24
              It's on fangraphs it's an actual rating named spd.

              ZOU!


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              I was checking these out yesterday...and they are definitely better than nothing.

              However, the SPD score is made up of the following 4 components:
              -Stolen Base Percentage
              -Frequency of Stolen Base Attempts
              -Percentage of Triples
              -Runs Scored Percentage

              So I don't know how well this actually measures a players actual SPEED...but it is a good reflection for the base stealing attribute.

              I wish there was a resource to find out home plate to first base speed for everyone...if I had that then I could definitely throw together something awesome for the speed attribute.

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              • Mizzou24
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 2978

                #8
                Re: speed question

                Originally posted by Steelers=SuperBowl
                I was checking these out yesterday...and they are definitely better than nothing.



                However, the SPD score is made up of the following 4 components:

                -Stolen Base Percentage

                -Frequency of Stolen Base Attempts

                -Percentage of Triples

                -Runs Scored Percentage



                So I don't know how well this actually measures a players actual SPEED...but it is a good reflection for the base stealing attribute.



                I wish there was a resource to find out home plate to first base speed for everyone...if I had that then I could definitely throw together something awesome for the speed attribute.

                When u combine it with wSB it actually turns out realistic.. The formula is


                If speed above 4.5
                Speed rating x wSB + 65
                Even if negative wSB make it a positive.

                If speed is 4

                Speed rating x -wSBx1+ 65

                If speed is 3

                Speed rating x -wSBx3 +65

                If speed is below 2
                Speed rating x -wSBx4+65


                Every one I tested came out realistic.



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                • Mizzou24
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 2978

                  #9
                  Re: speed question

                  Originally posted by mizzousec
                  Thank you! Is there any formula you are using or way to combine spd and wSB that helps you come up with speed ratings like how to determine their speed in the game? Like how did you come up with say a 78 speed for peter burjous. I'm being annoying I know.

                  He was an 86 speed I posted the formula above. I haven't went thru offensive stats yet about ready too but everyone I tested turned out good.


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                  • mizzousec
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                    • Jun 2012
                    • 17

                    #10
                    Re: speed question

                    Originally posted by Mizzou24
                    He was an 86 speed I posted the formula above. I haven't went thru offensive stats yet about ready too but everyone I tested turned out good.


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                    Okay for Peter Bourjos his spd is 6.7 and wSB is 0.3. So i multiply those together and add 65? When i do that i get 67.01.

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                    • Mizzou24
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 2978

                      #11
                      Re: speed question

                      Originally posted by mizzousec
                      Okay for Peter Bourjos his spd is 6.7 and wSB is 0.3. So i multiply those together and add 65? When i do that i get 67.01.

                      Yeah that's off I'll have to check it out when I'm off duty. The ratings could have changed since I did it.


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                      • mizzousec
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                        • Jun 2012
                        • 17

                        #12
                        Re: speed question

                        Originally posted by Mizzou24
                        Yeah that's off I'll have to check it out when I'm off duty. The ratings could have changed since I did it.


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                        Okay let me know once you go check it out. But when i turned the .3 from wSB to 3 instead i got 85 for bourjos so that's close. But when i did that for like billy hamilton and dee gordon there numbers ended up in the 100's.

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                        • Mizzou24
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 2978

                          #13
                          Re: speed question

                          Originally posted by mizzousec
                          Okay let me know once you go check it out. But when i turned the .3 from wSB to 3 instead i got 85 for bourjos so that's close. But when i did that for like billy hamilton and dee gordon there numbers ended up in the 100's.

                          Hamilton and Gordon are 99s


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                          • rjackson
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                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1661

                            #14
                            Re: speed question

                            Wonder if you couldn't just use the fangraphs FANS speed ratings (they are 1-100 already) and use the wSB/SB% for the stealing rating?

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                            • Mizzou24
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 2978

                              #15
                              Re: speed question

                              Originally posted by rjackson
                              Wonder if you couldn't just use the fangraphs FANS speed ratings (they are 1-100 already) and use the wSB/SB% for the stealing rating?

                              Not a bad idea if they are accurate I've found a way but not gonna state anything until I've tested it.


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