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  • Figment
    Pro
    • Jan 2009
    • 772

    #76
    Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

    So this is what I wanted the Cubs to do in the first place before they got Ross, but what if they decide to go with Montero vs RHPs and Castillo vs LHPs and decide to part ways with Ross instead? I know it is highly unlikely, but I think it should get legitimate consideration

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    • Eddie2288
      Rookie
      • Jan 2013
      • 74

      #77
      Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

      Originally posted by Figment
      So this is what I wanted the Cubs to do in the first place before they got Ross, but what if they decide to go with Montero vs RHPs and Castillo vs LHPs and decide to part ways with Ross instead? I know it is highly unlikely, but I think it should get legitimate consideration
      They just signed Ross. That won't even be a question. Castillo will either be a third catcher or he will be traded. That's it.

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      • Figment
        Pro
        • Jan 2009
        • 772

        #78
        Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

        I get that they just signed Ross, but it is not like there is long term value in him, he is simply a backup catcher. The way I see it, Montero isn't even young anymore, but he still has a few years on his contract and he is still productive, especially against RHPs. Why not take Castillo and let him learn from Montero for a couple years, unless someone overwhelms you with a trade. It's not like Ross won't have trade value, there were many teams trying to sign him in free agency, his age may lessen the return, but he has value. Just some outside the box thinking, probably never happen

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        • Eddie2288
          Rookie
          • Jan 2013
          • 74

          #79
          Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

          Originally posted by Figment
          I get that they just signed Ross, but it is not like there is long term value in him, he is simply a backup catcher. The way I see it, Montero isn't even young anymore, but he still has a few years on his contract and he is still productive, especially against RHPs. Why not take Castillo and let him learn from Montero for a couple years, unless someone overwhelms you with a trade. It's not like Ross won't have trade value, there were many teams trying to sign him in free agency, his age may lessen the return, but he has value. Just some outside the box thinking, probably never happen
          They signed Ross because of his leadership abilities and he is great defensively and great at pitch framing. Things that Castillo can't do. Also teams won't trade for a guy just signed this offseason before the season even starts. But the Cubs could also carry all 3 but that won't last long. Castillo is getting traded whether you like it or not

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          • ThreeKing
            Banned
            • Aug 2007
            • 5852

            #80
            Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

            Veteran stance 60 for Soler. Trust me on this one.

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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #81
              Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

              Originally posted by Figment
              I get that they just signed Ross, but it is not like there is long term value in him, he is simply a backup catcher. The way I see it, Montero isn't even young anymore, but he still has a few years on his contract and he is still productive, especially against RHPs. Why not take Castillo and let him learn from Montero for a couple years, unless someone overwhelms you with a trade. It's not like Ross won't have trade value, there were many teams trying to sign him in free agency, his age may lessen the return, but he has value. Just some outside the box thinking, probably never happen
              Ross will also probably be the primary catcher for Lester.
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              • OhioCub
                Rookie
                • Apr 2014
                • 409

                #82
                Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                Ross will also probably be the primary catcher for Lester.
                Maddon's already said he's not doing personal catchers.

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                • eric7064
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1151

                  #83
                  Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                  Originally posted by OhioCub
                  Maddon's already said he's not doing personal catchers.
                  That's not true either. He never said he won't do personal catchers. But he said don't expect to see Lester & Ross every time. Example: opening night. Montero bat is much better then Ross.

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                  • eric7064
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1151

                    #84
                    Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                    Originally posted by ThreeKing
                    Veteran stance 60 for Soler. Trust me on this one.
                    He's gonna be in the game already. Unless you mean editing his stance.

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                    • ThreeKing
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 5852

                      #85
                      2015 Chicago Cubs

                      Originally posted by eric7064
                      He's gonna be in the game already. Unless you mean editing his stance.

                      Mostly for The Show 14, but also if they didn't get his correct for 15.

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                      • MrOldboy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2653

                        #86
                        Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                        Originally posted by OhioCub
                        Some notes from minor league camp (most of these guys probably won't be on OSFM but I thought I'd list em just in case):

                        Former OF Ariel Ovando has been converted to P
                        Former C Mark Malave has been converted to P
                        Former IF Gioskar Amaya has been converted to C
                        Former IF Jordan Hankins has been converted to C
                        I have these noted, but only Amaya and Hankins will get consideration. Amaya as a 2B, closer to being on the roster. As a C, he is on the bubble since if he is rated as a below average defender he would not be a great prospect. Same for Hankins in that regard. I seen Amaya described as "Handled himself well...", but that doesn't make him a prospect at the position yet.

                        We'll see how the position plays out over ST, but I am planning on having 2 at AAA and AA and whoever is on the MLB roster opening day. So it could be 7 total.
                        Last edited by MrOldboy; 03-14-2015, 09:50 PM.

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                        • OhioCub
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 409

                          #87
                          Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                          Originally posted by MrOldboy
                          I have these noted, but only Amaya and Hankins will get consideration. Amaya as a 2B, closer to being on the roster. As a C, he is on the bubble since if he is rated as a below average defender he would not be a great prospect. Same for Hankins in that regard. I seen Amaya described as "Handled himself well...", but that doesn't make him a prospect at the position yet.

                          We'll see how the position plays out over ST, but I am planning on having 2 at AAA and AA and whoever is on the MLB roster opening day. So it could be 7 total.
                          If it were up to me, given this development, I would just leave them both off the roster alltogether. What I read is that all these guys are likely to start the year in Extended Spring Training to work on the new positions and then likely to start a level lower than where they were last year. If any of them really blossom and take to their new spots they can be added back in next year. Just my opinion though.

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                          • OhioCub
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 409

                            #88
                            Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                            2015 CUBS MINOR LEAGUE CAMP - SPRING TRAINING ROSTERS (last updated 3-13-2015):

                            NOTE: ROSTERS AT MINOR LEAGUE CAMP ARE FLUID. Minor League players are often initially assigned to a squad one or even two levels above where they will ultimately be assigned once the regular season starts. Minor League Camp roster assignments are based on several factors, including the player's position as it relates to the specific needs of the organization, and the player's age, amount of professional experience, and previous season's performance (including any time spent at a post-season Instructional League). As players are sent to Minor League Camp from the Major League squad during the course of Spring Training, there are corresponding roster moves made at Minor League Camp as players are either moved down a level or released. Occasionally a player or a pitcher will be moved up a level during the course of Minor League Camp, but such an occurrence is rare.

                            * bats or throws left
                            # bats both


                            IOWA: 31+1

                            AAA

                            PITCHERS: 17+1
                            * Jeffry Antigua
                            Frank Batista
                            Matt Brazis
                            Marcelo Carreno (LIMITED ACTIVITY - post-2013 shoulder surgery)
                            Zach Cates
                            Blake Cooper
                            Fernando Cruz
                            P. J. Francescon
                            * Austin Kirk
                            * Jeff Lorick
                            Matt Loosen
                            Barret Loux
                            Trey McNutt (INACTIVE - 2014 shoulder surgery)
                            Yoanner Negrin
                            Felix Pena
                            Carlos Pimentel
                            Ivan Pineyro
                            Tony Zych

                            CATCHERS: 3
                            Ben Carhart
                            Willson Contreras
                            Taylor Davis

                            INFIELDERS: 6
                            Stephen Bruno
                            * Wes Darvill
                            Ryan Dent
                            Jonathon Mota
                            Elliot Soto
                            * Dan Vogelbach

                            OUTFIELDERS: 5
                            John Andreoli
                            * Kevin Brown
                            Anthony Giansanti
                            Jae-Hoon Ha
                            * Rubi Silva


                            TENNESSEE: 30

                            AA

                            PITCHERS: 16
                            Justin Amlung
                            Francisco Carrillo
                            * Gerardo Concepcion
                            * Tyler Ihrig
                            Michael Jensen
                            Juan Carlos Paniagua
                            Steve Perakslis
                            Starling Peralta
                            Austin Reed
                            Jose Rosario
                            Andres Santiago
                            Tayler Scott
                            Tyler Skulina
                            Daury Torrez
                            Ben Wells
                            * Rob Zastryzny

                            CATCHERS: 3
                            Cael Brockmeyer
                            # Victor Caratini
                            * Jordan Hankins (ex-INF)

                            INFIELDERS: 6
                            # Jeimer Candelario
                            Dustin Geiger
                            Shane Kennedy
                            * Danny Lockhart
                            Carlos Penalver
                            Tim Saunders (reinstated from VOLUNTARY RETIRED LIST)

                            OUTFIELDERS: 5
                            Jeffrey Baez
                            * Pin-Chieh Chen
                            * Jake Hannemann
                            * Billy McKinney
                            * Bijan Rademacher


                            MYRTLE BEACH: 33

                            Hi-A

                            PITCHERS: 18
                            Paul Blackburn
                            James Farris
                            David Garner
                            Trevor Graham
                            * Michael Heesch
                            Lars Huijer
                            Corbin Hoffner
                            Jonathan Martinez
                            * Jordan Minch
                            James Norwood
                            Jeremy Null
                            James Pugliese
                            Jasvir Rakkar
                            Jake Stinnett
                            * Tommy Thorpe
                            Jen-Ho Tseng
                            Duane Underwood
                            Michael Wagner

                            CATCHERS: 4
                            Gioskar Amaya (ex-INF)
                            * Justin Marra
                            Will Remillard (LIMITED ACTIVITY - back?)
                            Mark Zagunis

                            INFIELDERS: 6
                            David Bote
                            # Varonex Cuevas
                            * Jacob Rogers
                            Gleyber Torres
                            * Jason Vosler
                            Chesny Young

                            OUTFIELDERS: 5
                            Yasiel Balaguert
                            * Shawon Dunston Jr
                            * Kevin Encarnacion
                            Trey Martin
                            * Charlie White

                            SOUTH BEND: 62+1

                            Lo-A

                            PITCHERS: 37
                            Adbert Alzolay
                            Pedro Araujo
                            Jordan Brink
                            Jesus Camargo
                            Jesus Castillo
                            Dylan Cease
                            Trevor Clifton
                            Josh Conway
                            Oscar de la Cruz
                            * Andin Diaz
                            Greyfer Eregua
                            Scott Frazier
                            Tanner Griggs
                            Zach Hedges
                            Luis Hernandez
                            John Michael Knighton
                            Erick Leal
                            Daniel Lewis
                            Mark Malave (ex-C)
                            Dillon Maples
                            Brad Markey
                            Trey Masek (LIMITED ACTIVITY - 2014 shoulder surgery)
                            Ryan McNeil
                            Yomar Morel
                            Erling Moreno (LIMITED ACTIVITY - 2014 ??? surgery)
                            * Ariel Ovando (ex-OF)
                            * Jose Paulino
                            Hector Perez
                            * Anthony Prieto
                            Brad Renner
                            * Carson Sands
                            Alexander Santana
                            * Justin Steele
                            Ryan Williams
                            Austyn Willis
                            * Sam Wilson
                            Jose Zapata

                            CATCHERS: 6
                            Tyler Alamo
                            # Eric Castillo
                            * Alberto Mineo
                            Tyler Pearson
                            Jhonny Pereda
                            Roberto Vahlis

                            INFIELDERS: 12+1
                            # Roney Alcala
                            * Danny Canela (LIMITED ACTIVITY - ???)
                            # Frandy de la Rosa
                            * Andrew Ely
                            * Bryant Flete
                            Jesse Hodges
                            Carlos Jimenez
                            Joey Martarano (INACTIVE - attending college)
                            Adonis Paula
                            * Carlos Sepulveda
                            Ho-Young Son
                            Alex Tomasovich
                            Tanner Witt

                            OUTFIELDERS: 7
                            Charcer Burks
                            * Rashad Crawford
                            Calvin Graves
                            Eloy Jimenez
                            * Ricardo Marcano
                            Kevonte Mitchell
                            Shamil Ubiera

                            It's alot, I know, but it gives an idea of who's starting where if there's any guys you're on the fence about.

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                            • ThreeKing
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 5852

                              #89
                              Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                              What stance are you guys using for Kris Bryant?

                              I'm using All-Star stance 56, which is pretty dang close.

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                              • MrOldboy
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2653

                                #90
                                Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

                                Originally posted by OhioCub
                                If it were up to me, given this development, I would just leave them both off the roster alltogether. What I read is that all these guys are likely to start the year in Extended Spring Training to work on the new positions and then likely to start a level lower than where they were last year. If any of them really blossom and take to their new spots they can be added back in next year. Just my opinion though.
                                They are extras and at catcher, so they are pretty far down the list. The only way one of them would be included is if multiple catchers get released or suddenly get injured for the entire year. There are more than enough worthy catchers this year.

                                I put out a call before, but if anyone sees any good images of prospects at ST go ahead and post them. The clearer their equipment is the better. Nice that there are quite a few Cubs ST broadcasts so I can go back and try and match stuff up once the game hits. Even one AB from someone on TV helps a lot. With the licensed equipment I want to try and get at least the "big" name prospects matched up as well as I can.

                                In regard to the above post, AZ Phil's depth chart is more than enough to look at. The big lists of minor league rosters are sort of pointless for the purpose of OSFM since the spots are so limited. We're getting close to that time of ST again where invitees start to get cut so we'll see how that pans out.
                                Last edited by MrOldboy; 03-16-2015, 02:38 AM.

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