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Re: Hybrid + OSFM
While I try not to engage in on-line drama, because let's face it, we are all talking about a video game here. Whether it's me or any of the numerous guys on here doing sliders, or Willard, WTNY, or Knight and Co. releasing their respective rosters, what it really comes down to is us making adjustments, edits, amendments (whatever term tickles your fancy) to a VIDEO GAME. As somebody already pointed out, this is a hobby which we all enjoy, and we CHOOSE to share these edits with the community.
Now, I understand why Willard and WTNY had an issue with Redsfan for releasing a roster with the "hybrid" name because it will inevitably cause confusion, and flood THEIR thread with countless, unnecessary, "Is this your roster?" question. I think that's already been well-established at this point. However, I think Redsfan didn't do any of this with ill-intent. In fact, even before he changed the thread title, he did put in bold that these were not Willard's and WTNY's hybrid rosters. And as a result of the requests by both Willard and WTNY to change the thread title, he did. Now, I'm not at home to figure out if he renamed the rosters or not. If he did, I'm sure that would squash a lot of the confusion right off the bat.
BUT....
In the 8 pages of this thread, I've seen the most condescending, entitlement-filled, arrogant posts (from a couple of guys that I won't name) that I've EVER witnessed in my nearly 8 years of being a part of this community. And I'm not going to get all "we should love each other every moment of every day", but there are certain things that are just uncalled for. To come down as hard as people have on this dude is really unwarranted. And what's pretty ironic is, as the guys that should be the most offended by this, Willard and WTNY have been relatively diplomatic about the entire situation. It's these other guys that go off on these tangent-filled manifestos essentially crucifying somebody who, yes, definitely made a mistake; but, the dude made this mistake without any ill-intentions, and from what I've read up to this point, has made efforts to try and rectify that mistake.
I'm not personally invested in these rosters in any way. I may give them a shot, and I may not. I have the OSFM V1 rosters, and I've already started my Dodgers franchise. I look forward to the OSFM Hybrid roster whenever it does get released. Personally, I'm a pretty happy camper.
It's used to be laughable to point at, and make fun of internet tough guys, who jump all over anybody that doesn't follow the "rules" just because of their own inferiority complexes. But in reading THIS particular thread, it just really made me shake my head in disgust at the fact that certain guys take the term "internet tough guys" to a whole new level.
Redsfan, you've responded more diplomatically and more graciously than I ever could have in this situation. Whether I try out your rosters or not, as somebody that spends many hours of his own free time creating slider sets, I appreciate your work and attempting to share it with the community.
Keep your head up, my man.
I went back and read my posts and in no way am I being a internet tough guy. I think you're reading posts with a clear bias. Oh and I never directed a post at redsfan until he posted one directed at me. And even then I was civil in my response. My post was directed towards rjackson and his ridiculous post.
I just don't understand the thought process of some when reading through things. It seems some of you are not understanding the posts and are interpreting them as something that isn't there at all...T.K.Comment
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Re: Hybrid + OSFM
Wishing there was a dislike option because you're so off base. If you read through the thread again you'd see where redsfan went wrong in his approach to a response to WTNY.
I went back and read my posts and in no way am I being a internet tough guy. I think you're reading posts with a clear bias. Oh and I never directed a post at redsfan until he posted one directed at me. And even then I was civil in my response. My post was directed towards rjackson and his ridiculous post.
I just don't understand the thought process of some when reading through things. It seems some of you are not understanding the posts and are interpreting them as something that isn't there at all...PSN: Maserati_Bryan17Comment
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Re: Hybrid + OSFM
Wishing there was a dislike option because you're so off base. If you read through the thread again you'd see where redsfan went wrong in his approach to a response to WTNY.
I went back and read my posts and in no way am I being a internet tough guy. I think you're reading posts with a clear bias. Oh and I never directed a post at redsfan until he posted one directed at me. And even then I was civil in my response. My post was directed towards rjackson and his ridiculous post.
I just don't understand the thought process of some when reading through things. It seems some of you are not understanding the posts and are interpreting them as something that isn't there at all...
See what I did there??? I matched the arrogance of your previous posts.
I decided to take your advice and read through your posts in the thread again, and my initial assessment of your condescending and overwhelmingly arrogant tone still stands. Whether you were directing them at rjackson, ruffy, or Redsfan, the tone is consistent throughout.
What I'm confused about is your self-appointed position of being the mouthpieces for Willard and WTNY. It seems that they are both capable and intelligent enough to speak for themselves on this matter, which they've already done. And aside from their initial reactions, they have already pretty much squashed the issue. And yet, here you are, blowing up multiple people in the thread with your ridiculous, and quite frankly, LAUGHABLE posts.
Perhaps you should get off your own personal pedestal, and re-read MY post before suggesting that I should read yours. I made it very clear that I don't have a personal interest in this roster set at all. As far as rosters go, I'm completely content with what I have. This thread piqued my interest, because I wanted to possibly test a re-rated roster set with my sliders. Unfortunately, in reading through the thread, I was regretfully subjected to your nonsensical ranting. In order to have a "clear bias", I would've needed to have a predisposed opinion of Redsfan or you, neither of whom I've had any interaction with in these forums until today.
So, if there's anybody that's off-base here, it's you. Your definition of being "civil", I can only assume is different than pretty much everybody on the face of the planet with any semblance of a functional brain. Your sense of entitlement, and your judgment-filled, condescending assessment of others in this thread and the "god damned human race" is ridiculous, and borderline egomaniacal. Instead of worrying about others who you perceive to be "young and stupid", perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror (or your web camera), if you have enough time away from "putting people in their places" on the INTERNET. Haha.
You are the clearest example of an "internet tough guy" that I've ever seen in my time on this site. And in case you're incapable of grasping that statement, that's not something to be proud of.
I made my attempt to refrain from naming anybody specifically. I tried to convey my opinion without singling anybody out. You went out of your way to quote my initial post, which is why you've gotten the response that you have. If and when the mods review and/or close this thread, I hope that is taken into account.
As you were, tough guy.Comment
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Re: Hybrid + OSFM
The spreadsheet was an awesome resource, but I did make my own tweaks. So saying I plagarized is INCORRECT. None of the lackeys have acknowledged this. They just assume my roster is a rip off. Even if it was a rip off it shouldn't matter to anyone, we're supposed to be a community here and sharing rosters is just part of what we do. I thought that was true anyway.Last edited by redsfan4life; 04-16-2015, 07:44 PM.PSN: Maserati_Bryan17Comment
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Since you have managed to read between the lines, and have cleverly deduced that you were ONE of the people that I was referring to, I salute you!
See what I did there??? I matched the arrogance of your previous posts.
I decided to take your advice and read through your posts in the thread again, and my initial assessment of your condescending and overwhelmingly arrogant tone still stands. Whether you were directing them at rjackson, ruffy, or Redsfan, the tone is consistent throughout.
What I'm confused about is your self-appointed position of being the mouthpieces for Willard and WTNY. It seems that they are both capable and intelligent enough to speak for themselves on this matter, which they've already done. And aside from their initial reactions, they have already pretty much squashed the issue. And yet, here you are, blowing up multiple people in the thread with your ridiculous, and quite frankly, LAUGHABLE posts.
Perhaps you should get off your own personal pedestal, and re-read MY post before suggesting that I should read yours. I made it very clear that I don't have a personal interest in this roster set at all. As far as rosters go, I'm completely content with what I have. This thread piqued my interest, because I wanted to possibly test a re-rated roster set with my sliders. Unfortunately, in reading through the thread, I was regretfully subjected to your nonsensical ranting. In order to have a "clear bias", I would've needed to have a predisposed opinion of Redsfan or you, neither of whom I've had any interaction with in these forums until today.
So, if there's anybody that's off-base here, it's you. Your definition of being "civil", I can only assume is different than pretty much everybody on the face of the planet with any semblance of a functional brain. Your sense of entitlement, and your judgment-filled, condescending assessment of others in this thread and the "god damned human race" is ridiculous, and borderline egomaniacal. Instead of worrying about others who you perceive to be "young and stupid", perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror (or your web camera), if you have enough time away from "putting people in their places" on the INTERNET. Haha.
You are the clearest example of an "internet tough guy" that I've ever seen in my time on this site. And in case you're incapable of grasping that statement, that's not something to be proud of.
I made my attempt to refrain from naming anybody specifically. I tried to convey my opinion without singling anybody out. You went out of your way to quote my initial post, which is why you've gotten the response that you have. If and when the mods review and/or close this thread, I hope that is taken into account.
As you were, tough guy.
LMAO web camera. who's the tough guy? Clearly you're lost... I was representing myself, as a guy reading from the sidelines until I read something that irritated me... Good day sir...T.K.Comment
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Yeah you're right. Getting upset and lashing out at people would be a much better response. Thankfully I haven't lost any respect for Willard and WTNY, it just seems their "lackeys" I don't even know what to call them that are hijacking this thread. They are attempting to besmirch my roster file but I care not. I'm honestly amused they keep posting. Just one of those people that has to get the last word. As I've said again, enjoy the roster those of you that are using it. Seems to be quite a few judging by the number of downloads
I apologize for taking part in the hijacking of your thread. As I've already said, I conveyed how I felt about things without singling anybody out in my first post. Tough guy decided to quote me and call me out, so I responded. Maybe I fell into a trap of responding to something that wasn't worth it, and as a result, I've contributed to the derailing of this thread.
For that, I sincerely apologize.Comment
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Re: Hybrid + OSFM
Dude,
I apologize for taking part in the hijacking of your thread. As I've already said, I conveyed how I felt about things without singling anybody out in my first post. Tough guy decided to quote me and call me out, so I responded. Maybe I fell into a trap of responding to something that wasn't worth it, and as a result, I've contributed to the derailing of this thread.
For that, I sincerely apologize.
As long as people are using my roster, that's fine. That's really all I wanted to begin with. To share my work.PSN: Maserati_Bryan17Comment
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