Bacon's 2016 Roster

[fatjoejr2001]

Bacon's 2016 Roster

First off, thank you for all the critiques. I will address them all and actually already adjusted a few already. So, I wanna start with saying that potential isn't exactly their peak and in franchise it can/will change based off performance. Secondly, Trout has a 72 contact because according to my own calculator, a player needs to hit .326 against righties to be rewarded a 99. I'm not just going to give 99s away to anyone who hit .300 even if it's Trout. Also, newer roster updates have adjusted potential. Ex: Rizzo 91, Heyward 86, Cutch 97, Trout 99, Arenado 92, Jansen 88. Hernandez is one of the best pitchers in the game and just because he had one down year doesn't mean his career should be on the decline so there is now way he gets a B potential especially because he'll be 30 soon. As for prospects, I'm not entirely sure how I want to do that. Probably just have all the top guys (Seager, Buxton, Giolito, etc.) topping out at ~95.

Can't wait for next update. Nobody should arguably have a higher potential then Trout, Goldsmidt, Harper and Correa in that order as far as hitters go. I like what was noticed and how Bacon is going about continuously changing things for a better overall experience. Again, can't wait till next update [emoji1417]


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[bacon96]

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Can't wait for next update. Nobody should arguably have a higher potential then Trout, Goldsmidt, Harper and Correa in that order as far as hitters go. I like what was noticed and how Bacon is going about continuously changing things for a better overall experience. Again, can't wait till next update [emoji1417]


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Thanks fatjoe! This is 100% correct. Potential has constantly been evolving so with more and more updates potential should become more accurate.
Also this is probably a good time to say that I will be busy on Saturday so this week's update will be in the vault Friday.

[Cavicchi]

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First off, thank you for all the critiques. I will address them all and actually already adjusted a few already. So, I wanna start with saying that potential isn't exactly their peak and in franchise it can/will change based off performance. Secondly, Trout has a 72 contact because according to my own calculator, a player needs to hit .326 against righties to be rewarded a 99. I'm not just going to give 99s away to anyone who hit .300 even if it's Trout. Also, newer roster updates have adjusted potential. Ex: Rizzo 91, Heyward 86, Cutch 97, Trout 99, Arenado 92, Jansen 88. Hernandez is one of the best pitchers in the game and just because he had one down year doesn't mean his career should be on the decline so there is now way he gets a B potential especially because he'll be 30 soon. As for prospects, I'm not entirely sure how I want to do that. Probably just have all the top guys (Seager, Buxton, Giolito, etc.) topping out at ~95.

I never said Trout should have a 99 for contact. I never said Hernandez should be a B for potential. You had Trout with 72 for contact and I gave you his 3-year and last year split against RHP--and 72 is nowhere near what he should have for contact vs RHP. In case you missed it, 3-year split for Trout against RHP .304 and last year .295. Contact of 72 makes no sense to me.

I'm glad you corrected some things. However, in my opinion, Hernandez is not one of the best pitchers in baseball. Yes, he had a down year and into age 30 season--and I don't see him as a 98 potential at all. I find it interesting you would give him a 98 potential rating after the year he had in 2015.

[bacon96]

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I never said Trout should have a 99 for contact. I never said Hernandez should be a B for potential. You had Trout with 72 for contact and I gave you his 3-year and last year split against RHP--and 72 is nowhere near what he should have for contact vs RHP. In case you missed it, 3-year split for Trout against RHP .304 and last year .295. Contact of 72 makes no sense to me.

I'm glad you corrected some things. However, in my opinion, Hernandez is not one of the best pitchers in baseball. Yes, he had a down year and into age 30 season--and I don't see him as a 98 potential at all. I find it interesting you would give him a 98 potential rating after the year he had in 2015.

Attributes are based off stats from last year. If you want Trout to be rated higher so badly then I'll bump him up to 77 for his .304 3-year split. There are guys who hit .325+ this season who deserve the higher ratings so I won't go any higher with Trout.
As for Felix, he's no longer a 98 potential but what was wrong with his 2015 season?? 18 wins, 201.2 innings, 8.5 K/9 in 31 starts on an average team is not a bad season or even a sign of major decline.
As for potential, I believe it is more of a career trajectory not rather than peak overall.

[Cavicchi]

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Attributes are based off stats from last year. If you want Trout to be rated higher so badly then I'll bump him up to 77 for his .304 3-year split. There are guys who hit .325+ this season who deserve the higher ratings so I won't go any higher with Trout.
As for Felix, he's no longer a 98 potential but what was wrong with his 2015 season?? 18 wins, 201.2 innings, 8.5 K/9 in 31 starts on an average team is not a bad season or even a sign of major decline.
As for potential, I believe it is more of a career trajectory not rather than peak overall.

So .295 batting average against RHP translates into a 72 for contact in your roster?

[bacon96]

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So .295 batting average against RHP translates into a 72 for contact in your roster?

Correct. There are guys who hit over .330 against righties who are more deserving of a higher rating.

[Bullit]

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I looked at some players and got confused.

1. I don't have a problem with Harper being a 99, though it is based on one year, I do have a problem with Mike Trout. First, I don't know how you got that contact rating against RHP at 72! Trout's 3-year split is .304 against RHP, and he batted .295 against them last year. Also, I don't agree that Trout should have a potential of 98, like he's over and done with at age 24, no more potential, reached his peak and done at 24.

2. McCutchen with a 99 potential and Trout at 98 is another thing I just don't agree with.

3. King Felix going into his age 30 season and last year was nothing to show potential of 98.

4. I don't see the justification for Heyward being 96 potential and Rizzo just 86.

5. Nolan Arenado with a potential of 82 makes no sense to me.

6. I don't see where Corey Seager should have a potential of 99. Is he supposed to be more productive than Mike Trout? Well, according to MLB.com, " Seager has a higher offensive ceiling than any big league shortstop except for Carlos Correa." You can view that under MLB.com/Prospects.

7. I fail to see where Rosenthal should have potential of 85 when Jansen has 93.

In my opinion, no prospect should be rated a 99 potential.

I haven't looked at the entire Roster, far from it, just a few players here and there.

I do appreciate your effort to do this, just expressing some things here, especially Arenado, King Felix and Trout, that you may want to take another look at.

You guys do know that if you do not like certain aspects of Bacons roster you can go in and change whatever you want yourselves. If these are the numbers he want to use then that is his prerogative.

I don't like using realistic contracts as for me they break the game. So I am in the process of figuring out how to fix them back to default. I have never done any roster stuff before and it is much harder to do than I would have thought. So I think everybody expecting their own personal changes to made to someone else's roster is a little unrealistic and borders on disrespectful.

[bacon96]

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You guys do know that if you do not like certain aspects of Bacons roster you can go in and change whatever you want yourselves. If these are the numbers he want to use then that is his prerogative.

I don't like using realistic contracts as for me they break the game. So I am in the process of figuring out how to fix them back to default. I have never done any roster stuff before and it is much harder to do than I would have thought. So I think everybody expecting their own personal changes to made to someone else's roster is a little unrealistic and borders on disrespectful.

Thank you Bullit! I always love it when others defend my work and any other rosters that you may find in the vault. So on that note, I'm glad to announce that Bacon96 v5 is now in the vault.

[Houston]

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Hey great job on your rosters, im updating ratings for many players for MLB 16 and the players that have been missing and u did a great job on having most of the ones I havent seen anywhere else.


Here is one that I came across you do not have and if i come across others I will let u know.

RP Aroni Nina. (KC Royals)

[Figment]

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Checking out your roster and it is extremely accurate for the Cubs except for a few players.

These players are no longer on the Cubs:
C Taylor Teagarden
C Luke Carlin
1B Chris Valaika
2B Jonathan Herrera
CF Dexter Fowler
CF Austin jackson
RF Chris Denorfia

Recommended replacements:
C Taylor Davis
1B Jesus Guzman
2B Stephen Bruno
SS Ryan Dent
LF Anthony Giansanti
RF Jeffrey Baez
RF Bijan Rademacher

Most of these guys should be easy to find on the OSFM base roster. Thanks for the good work.

[bacon96]

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Checking out your roster and it is extremely accurate for the Cubs except for a few players.

These players are no longer on the Cubs:
C Taylor Teagarden
C Luke Carlin
1B Chris Valaika
2B Jonathan Herrera
CF Dexter Fowler
CF Austin jackson
RF Chris Denorfia

Recommended replacements:
C Taylor Davis
1B Jesus Guzman
2B Stephen Bruno
SS Ryan Dent
LF Anthony Giansanti
RF Jeffrey Baez
RF Bijan Rademacher

Most of these guys should be easy to find on the OSFM base roster. Thanks for the good work.

Thanks for this list. These new players will be taken into consideration for the open spots if I actually had any. All the players you listed on the top half are free agents but were not released. In this roster, I no longer intend on moving free agents to free agency until as late as I possibly can because players whom I make free agents will retire on the spot following the first year of franchise.

[bacon96]

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For anyone else who sees free agents listed in A-ball:
Major League Free Agents will stay on their 2015 team's A-Ball as long as I see fit because they will retire the first season that franchise is started. It doesn't make sense to put them in free agency just yet and I will find replacements for the players who fit what I am trying to accomplish with my roster while also taking certain players into consideration.
As for minor league free agents, I will likely move them to free agency to open up more spots on a roster to finish an organization's AAA club or add more prospects.

[ped3328]

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For anyone else who sees free agents listed in A-ball:
Major League Free Agents will stay on their 2015 team's A-Ball as long as I see fit because they will retire the first season that franchise is started. It doesn't make sense to put them in free agency just yet and I will find replacements for the players who fit what I am trying to accomplish with my roster while also taking certain players into consideration.
As for minor league free agents, I will likely move them to free agency to open up more spots on a roster to finish an organization's AAA club or add more prospects.

Thank you very much for a job well done ! I have added c Steven Lerud to SEA and transferred Willie Bloomquist to the FA slot. Furthermore, I have replaced the following 3 players because their faces look way off IMO: Cory Seiger LAD; Hung-Ho Kang PIT; Shae Simmons ATL. Also, I have replaced David Robertson CWS because he wears a NYY cap (don't know why SCEA never noticed that from the outset). Feel free to change them if you see it fit. You can find those 4 players in the Player's Vault under ped3328.

[bacon96]

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Thank you very much for a job well done ! I have added c Steven Lerud to SEA and transferred Willie Bloomquist to the FA slot. Furthermore, I have replaced the following 3 players because their faces look way off IMO: Cory Seiger LAD; Hung-Ho Kang PIT; Shae Simmons ATL. Also, I have replaced David Robertson CWS because he wears a NYY cap (don't know why SCEA never noticed that from the outset). Feel free to change them if you see it fit. You can find those 4 players in the Player's Vault under ped3328.

Thanks I'll definitely take a look at your work and see if I'd like to switch out Kang or Seager but I will not replace SCEA players with CAPs unless the player will not be in the 2016 version of the game.

[coreyerb]

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Nice work. What roster did you use as a base?