The Game's Community Ratings Calculator

[TheGame8544]

The Game's Community Ratings Calculator

I am not saying that the SCEA stock ratings are great, I am merely stating that I don't want to go through and rerate every single team. If this where the case I would use the hybrid roster or in theory your roster when you post it. To me the benefit of a calculator is that it can be used to adjust a single team or specific players to realistic ratings without disadvantaging the players that are re-rated. Obviously individual players ratings will increase or decrease but on average I would like to see them stay the same.



You seem to feel differently, which I respect, and given that it is your calculator, I don't expect you to adjust it just for me.

I got you. But if someone else does the work, why not have the entire roster re-rated? But sure if you want to use your own file and make adjustments to certain players, that is one of the purposes of this calculator. It's not either/or but both/and.

On that note, I've begun editing. I'm through the Orioles, Astros, and am on to the Jays. If there's anyone that would like to work with me in building a roster based on this calc, I'd love to. If not, no worries as I'll continue plugging away, but it's going to take a while.

[KBLover]

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The whole idea of Sony being some oracle of ratings is silly.

Never said they were some kind of oracle. I don't know where that's coming from.

However, I presume that they developed their engine with ratings in mind and the whole system of development, etc.

I mean if I give Ben Revere a 4 OF arm...he will be useless. Players aren't rated that low, even with crappy arms. I think there's a reason for that beyond SCEA is bad at ratings.

For example, you want the right player to have the right attribute rating; you aren't necessarily interested in moving the median rating up or down. In fact, I'd surmise (though I haven't looked at this calculator because I have my own) that most people who do decent re-ratings probably calibrate their ratings to about where Sony has their average rating for precisely this reason.

And how do you do that for fictional players?

I'm 8 years into my Marlins franchise carried over into the 3rd version of the game (MLB14->15->now 16).

How would I go about re-rating my entire franchise loaded with fictional players to make them all consistent with each other?

Looking around my franchise, it seems pretty consistent to me. Player types are consistent. My ace is excellent, but not outline with other ace-level players. There's fictional sluggers that look like irl sluggers (this roster was based on OSFM, no re-rate).

If that's not the consistency you speak, please educate me because I don't really understand.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Never said they were some kind of oracle. I don't know where that's coming from.

However, I presume that they developed their engine with ratings in mind and the whole system of development, etc.

I mean if I give Ben Revere a 4 OF arm...he will be useless. Players aren't rated that low, even with crappy arms. I think there's a reason for that beyond SCEA is bad at ratings.





And how do you do that for fictional players?

I'm 8 years into my Marlins franchise carried over into the 3rd version of the game (MLB14->15->now 16).

How would I go about re-rating my entire franchise loaded with fictional players to make them all consistent with each other?

Looking around my franchise, it seems pretty consistent to me. Player types are consistent. My ace is excellent, but not outline with other ace-level players. There's fictional sluggers that look like irl sluggers (this roster was based on OSFM, no re-rate).

If that's not the consistency you speak, please educate me because I don't really understand.

Re-rating fictional players is kind of a silly idea, don't you think? We're talking about re-rating players that we know about and have hard data on. Fictional players in your franchise that's already in year 2022 or whatever isn't really relevant to that.

Aside from that, a well-done re-rated roster should be mostly indistinguishable from SCEA in terms of what the "average slugger" and "average ace" looks like. I think you skipped over that part in my original post. Re-rating isn't a league-altering thing (e.g. making all the batters worse or making all closers better), it's on the granular level of the single player. Those of us that re-rate players just want the individual players to have a higher probability to produce like their real life counterparts. In that vein, fictional players should fall into line equally well with re-rated or stock rosters.

EDIT: Maybe this will help conceptualize it, but in a re-rated roster you are basically redistributing attribute points from one player to the next based on whatever inputs you use to rank them. Ultimately the goal is to have a systematic hierarchy where each attribute has the best players rated the best. In doing so, we aren't making the average contact rating from 48 to 73 (to make up some numbers).

Now I agree that a 4 arm strength is a bit unusual, but not having tried it, I can't say if it's a bad thing. I generally do my re-ratings within boundaries of Sony's min/max/average to make sure nothing gets broken.

[TheGame8544]

The Game's Community Ratings Calculator

Never said they were some kind of oracle. I don't know where that's coming from.

However, I presume that they developed their engine with ratings in mind and the whole system of development, etc.

I mean if I give Ben Revere a 4 OF arm...he will be useless. Players aren't rated that low, even with crappy arms.

I'm pretty sure I already asked for more details on your formula. I'm open to trying it in the file and see if it eliminates some of those extreme low ratings. There aren't very many though so in the roster I'm working on, Revere will probably be bumped up to an arm strength of about 20. Still a very weak arm, but I agree 4 is low.

Also, how can you call Ben Revere "useless"? The dude had weighted contact ratings of 92 vs R and 81 vs L. I'd say Revere is plenty useful. He just sucks throwing the ball and isn't a very good fielder.

[TheGame8544]

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Anyway, I'll take it as a compliment if the fielding ratings, that aren't even mine, are the only complaint with the calculator so far.

[Bravescountry123]

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Hate that the calculator doesn't open on an iPad

[TheGame8544]

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Hate that the calculator doesn't open on an iPad

Same here. I don't think spreadsheet software is strong enough or something to handle all of the data. It sucks.

[tamale_22]

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Is there a way I can weigh in 2016 stats? Julio Teheran comes out at 78 Overall but imo hes having a way better than 78 Overall year

[TheGame8544]

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Is there a way I can weigh in 2016 stats? Julio Teheran comes out at 78 Overall but imo hes having a way better than 78 Overall year

Not yet. I'll probably be adding in 2016 stats at the All-Star break or a little after. A little early to be doing it now.

[jajohnson209]

The Game's Community Ratings Calculator

Anybody else having this issue?

Problem solved! ^^

[CologeroNYY]

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is there a calculator where i can input stats for a player?

[TheGame8544]

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Anybody else having this issue?

Problem solved! ^^

Good. You got it to work?

[TheGame8544]

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is there a calculator where i can input stats for a player?

I believe I left the Batting Stats page and Pitching Stats page open to edit. You can input the stats there.

Personally, I like to make changes under the career portion. Just don't save you work otherwise my formulas will be deleted and the calc won't work.

[jajohnson209]

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Good. You got it to work?

Yes thanks

[CologeroNYY]

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I believe I left the Batting Stats page and Pitching Stats page open to edit. You can input the stats there.

Personally, I like to make changes under the career portion. Just don't save you work otherwise my formulas will be deleted and the calc won't work.

no stats are popping up in the ratings calculator when I input in the minor league batting section.