MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

[PVarck31]

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That's just it, it's not what they think. I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, everyone should. But these ratings are not what the roster creators "think" it's what the projections state. The problem people have is with the system, people are mad because one or two guys isn't rated how they like. If the roster creators pulled these ratings out of their asses then by all means complain to them. Since, however, they used a pre-existing projection system it is not the roster you have an issue with, it's the projections.



If there were issues with many other players you may be able to justify an issue with interpretation of the projections, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Sorry for the edit, had to change a diaper (and no, it wasn't mine)

That's fair enough. I admit I don't know the ins and outs of how these guys make the rosters. And I very much appreciate the work they do so I am in no way putting them down.

I just believe Lindor should be an A. I think a lot of people would agree. But like you said, whatever they use to determine that doesn't agree. And that's fine, I understand, and will still enjoy the rosters.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Try importing Dayan Viciedo over him and re-create him. I did this with a player last night and it worked.

Also another weird thing happened RussCanzler, Jake Fox, and Blake Tekotte had a stats glitch after I imported them over legends then I went and checked them last night and somehow their stas reset and everything is normal now.

Are you suggesting that Dayan Viciedo is the Keymaster?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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That's fair enough. I admit I don't know the ins and outs of how these guys make the rosters. And I very much appreciate the work they do so I am in no way putting them down.

I just believe Lindor should be an A. I think a lot of people would agree. But like you said, whatever they use to determine that doesn't agree. And that's fine, I understand, and will still enjoy the rosters.

Fair point, but keep in mind that while a lot of people are loosely tossing "A" and "B" around, we're really talking about an 88 POT, which is a super high B. And I'd guess most who don't agree would consider Lindor a low A. So we're really one "stock is rising" email apart. It's really not that big of a difference.

I should also mention that we've made a conscious effort to be conservative with potentials to help the superstars really stand out.

[PVarck31]

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Fair point, but keep in mind that while a lot of people are loosely tossing "A" and "B" around, we're really talking about an 88 POT, which is a super high B. And I'd guess most who don't agree would consider Lindor a low A. So we're really one "stock is rising" email apart. It's really not that big of a difference.

I should also mention that we've made a conscious effort to be conservative with potentials to help the superstars really stand out.

Thanks for the response. I would have liked your post if the function worked for me lol

[Willard76]

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Ok. Enough bull**** tying up this thread about Francisco freaking Lindor and asking why certain players are rated a certain way.

We have explained it many times - projections (hard numbers converted solidly in ratings) were what decided ratings. Potentials are based on what the baseball community thinks of a player (again a hard number converted to make a rating number).

Unfortunately Overall numbers are weighted numbers - usually in a pitchers case it's pure stuff weighs more than /9 numbers.

We had no biased other than if something looked strange we did double check that player.

Francisco Lindor will probably become an A potential after season 1, but he currently just sits under that. If he started as an A there is much more chance he would eventually become a 99 player which now we would have complaints about him being too high.

At the end of the day - do you the roster user want something that has pretty numbers OR something that plays real to life.

Just to make a point using a questioned player Marco Estrada. I pitched with him last night and he was pure Marco- not pretty but damned near perfect. Gave up 2 runs through 8.

Let's keep this thread productive moving forward - and if u have no intention of using it, stay off the thread


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[PVarck31]

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Wow, take it easy Willard. We were just having a discussion. That type of post is not really something we look kindly on here.

And I do intend on using the roster. I wasn't aware I was not allowed to have an opinion on a certain player.

[Willard76]

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Wow, take it easy Willard. We were just having a discussion. That type of post is not really something we look kindly on here.



And I do intend on using the roster. I wasn't aware I was not allowed to have an opinion on a certain player.

Opinion is fine but more than 1 post about a player is no longer constructive. It is browbeating us into changing something especially when we have said we did not control any numbers. We simply put them in (about 40 hours of work) after WTNY spend more than that finding a formula then creating the spreadsheet.

We have explained multiple times why Lindor got what he did and why Joe Blow minor leaguer got what he got.

We appreciate the interest in the roster by all, but people need to realize that there is no absolute perfection and constant bugging on the same topic for 5 yeArs gets very tiring to the point this roster almost did not happen to begin with.

It's not like we haven't been nice enough not answer. We keep giving the same answer because that is the answer


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[PVarck31]

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Opinion is fine but more than 1 post about a player is no longer constructive. It is browbeating us into changing something especially when we have said we did not control any numbers. We simply put them in (about 40 hours of work) after WTNY spend more than that finding a formula then creating the spreadsheet.

We have explained multiple times why Lindor got what he did and why Joe Blow minor leaguer got what he got.

We appreciate the interest in the roster by all, but people need to realize that there is no absolute perfection and constant bugging on the same topic for 5 yeArs gets very tiring to the point this roster almost did not happen to begin with.

It's not like we haven't been nice enough not answer. We keep giving the same answer because that is the answer


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If you're referring to me about making more than one post about it I made one post and responded to another. Definitely not nonconstructive.

But you've made your point. Next time don't be telling people that its bull**** to post stuff. That is nonconstructive. And also don't be telling people to stay out of the thread. Everyone has a right to view and comment on this thread regardless if they download your rosters or not.

And just so you know, as I stated before I really appreciate the time and effort you guys have put into the rosters.

I am fine with Lindor's potential after more was explained to me.

So now it's time to move on.

[AC]

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If anyone has any questions about what Steamer does to calculate this stuff I have a fairly decent knowledge of how it works

[grangdj77]

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Is anyone posting a version with transactions up-to-date?

[Dynasty Legend 99]

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So.......

Budgets On or OFF?

Will teams be able to re-sign their guys and what not or am I better off turning it off?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So.......

Budgets On or OFF?

Will teams be able to re-sign their guys and what not or am I better off turning it off?

I addressed this in post #154 of this thread.

And in post #142.

[Dynasty Legend 99]

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Apologies WTNY, Couldn't seem to find the Needle in a haystack of ratings comments.

All jokes aside,
Great Work Guys, really looking forward to setting up my Franchise.

[Speedy]

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There are and will be several users asking how "player x" got this rating/potential. In the same vein that PVarck was saying, asking people to bug off, don't download the roster if they don't like it or change it themselves is quite poor as most of these users are sincere in their inquiry as they try to figure out whether it's a viable roster. I used the roster last year and enjoyed it.

I'm curious myself how the ratings were derived though as I cannot recall. ZiPS projections? Steamer? I noticed Willard mentioned it was a weighted rating. Maybe it was covered already in the WIP thread or posted here and I overlooked it...

[tonybologna]

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There are and will be several users asking how "player x" got this rating/potential. In the same vein that PVarck was saying, asking people to bug off, don't download the roster if they don't like it or change it themselves is quite poor as most of these users are sincere in their inquiry as they try to figure out whether it's a viable roster. I used the roster last year and enjoyed it.

I'm curious myself how the ratings were derived though as I cannot recall. ZiPS projections? Steamer? I noticed Willard mentioned it was a weighted rating. Maybe it was covered already in the WIP thread or posted here and I overlooked it...

They didn't use ZiPS. They switched to Steamer. Williard posted it somewhere in this thread I do believe. Edit: found his post here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...8&postcount=69