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  • kamackeris76
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1653

    #61
    Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

    Originally posted by MatrixTN
    Opening Day bug - play both of the other two as CPU/CPU games, once they start FF to the end. Then play yours.
    Will the next game I play be ok as already halfway through now?

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

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    • Gambo187
      Rookie
      • Aug 2003
      • 279

      #62
      Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

      Great work on the rosters, no matter what accomplishing such a task is always amazing.

      However, After downloading I wasn't too impressed by the ratings. At least nothing there to make me stop using 3.0. I do think the border line pitchers got a much needed boost as they are now rightfully rated better than minor leaguers but overall the prospects are rated too high currently and potential too low and unless the low lever minor leaguers are studs they do not seem to relate to the players actual abilities well.

      That's just my opinion.

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      • Garrett59
        Rookie
        • Apr 2013
        • 160

        #63
        Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

        Originally posted by adamj2281
        Love the edits, but is anyone else getting really low ERA's across the league? I'm simulating basically the first year with the Braves, and overall team ERA's are mostly in the 2's and low 3's.

        If I recall at the AS break, the top 10 were all under 2.50.
        If i had to take a guess it would be due to many position players offensive stats being lowered and many picthers (who may not deserve it) being raised to pretty high levels. Overall most giys are rated well but looking through it is pretty hard to find elite rated offensive players. MVP J Don, has 70 contact and 80 power after hitting 40 homers and winning MVP because projections are always relunctant to bet on big seasons. I have no idea how this plays yet but my initial glance feels it will be extremely picther friendly.

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        • Garrett59
          Rookie
          • Apr 2013
          • 160

          #64
          Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

          Originally posted by Gambo187
          Great work on the rosters, no matter what accomplishing such a task is always amazing.

          However, After downloading I wasn't too impressed by the ratings. At least nothing there to make me stop using 3.0. I do think the border line pitchers got a much needed boost as they are now rightfully rated better than minor leaguers but overall the prospects are rated too high currently and potential too low and unless the low lever minor leaguers are studs they do not seem to relate to the players actual abilities well.

          That's just my opinion.
          I couldnt agree more. I am a firm believer of prove it in the major before they earn these crazy ratings. Some prospects are regarded way too highly, like Urias an 85 already, come on hes still in the minors. This roster is definitely pitching heavy and imho way too reliant on projections that dont seem to come true taht often. Projections always take the side of caution and this leads to many mediocre ratings shen some people can back up a career year and not decline to career averages

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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #65
            Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

            Originally posted by adamj2281
            Love the edits, but is anyone else getting really low ERA's across the league? I'm simulating basically the first year with the Braves, and overall team ERA's are mostly in the 2's and low 3's.

            If I recall at the AS break, the top 10 were all under 2.50.
            I'm not sure if you saw it, but in the previous thread I suggested sliders to use in simmed games.

            SP STAM = 1
            RP STAM = 6
            Manager Hook = 5
            Injuries = 8


            The SP Stamina slider sort of functions as a switch in this roster. Lower it for more offense, raise it for more pitching.

            The problem you are having might be related to not having these set as intended.
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            • Councilmann_Jamm
              Pro
              • Feb 2016
              • 745

              #66
              Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

              Originally posted by Garrett59
              If i had to take a guess it would be due to many position players offensive stats being lowered and many picthers (who may not deserve it) being raised to pretty high levels. Overall most giys are rated well but looking through it is pretty hard to find elite rated offensive players. MVP J Don, has 70 contact and 80 power after hitting 40 homers and winning MVP because projections are always relunctant to bet on big seasons. I have no idea how this plays yet but my initial glance feels it will be extremely picther friendly.
              Donaldson with 70/80 in a ReRate is almost the same as 90/100 on a regular roster set. Everyone is related to a new meteic system.

              Quit bashing on guys who put in hard hours of their own time to do something for the community. If you don't like the ratings then don't play with them and leave the thread to people who want to give thanks.
              Last edited by Councilmann_Jamm; 05-24-2016, 02:21 PM.

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              • Garrett59
                Rookie
                • Apr 2013
                • 160

                #67
                Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                Originally posted by Councilmann_Jamm
                Donaldson with 70/80 in a ReRate is almost the same as 90/100 on a regular roster set. Everyone is related to a new meteic system.

                Quit bashing on guys who put in hard hours of their own time to do something for the community. If you don't like the ratings then don't play with them and leave the thread to people who want to give thanks.
                I am voicing my opinion not bashing the roster creators....

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                • WaitTilNextYear
                  Go Cubs Go
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #68
                  Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                  Originally posted by Councilmann_Jamm
                  Donaldson with 70/80 in a ReRate is almost the same as 90/100 on a regular roster set. Everyone is related to a new meteic system.

                  Quit bashing on guys who put in hard hours of their own time to do something for the community. If you don't like the ratings then don't play with them and leave the thread to people who want to give thanks.
                  I appreciate the comment, but at the same time we know full well that this isn't the roster for some people. And that's fine. What matters to me is that I like it, will use it, and if it just so happens that 1,000 other people do also, then that's great and the whole reason why we share/make community rosters at all. I don't really care so much if some people are disappointed in something they didn't contribute to at all and got for free. Such is life.
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                  • Willard76
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 2841

                    #69
                    Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                    Ok, originally I was going to quote a ton of posts and answer stuff individually, but as I kept reading I think some things need to be cleared up as really some displeasure IMO comes from a general misunderstanding of what this roster is about, how it works in season 1 and how it works in season 5 and so on.

                    For those comparing Overalls from one player to another, please remember and I believe AC stated this as well - different attributes weigh heavier on different positions - for instance a 3B is weighed more on power than contact, as for pitchers where I see the biggest beef - while I will agree Arrieta is one of if not the best in the NL so far this year what may be weighing him down in essence compared to a guy like Syndergaard is the fact that the game weighs actual pitches heavier than the /9 pitching metrics - again this may be why young pitchers are rating higher than some would think.

                    For those wondering about projections - yes Donaldson had a monster year last year but projections don't just weigh in one season, they weigh it heaviest but every year going backwards in a career is weighed in, another reason why a younger player may have a slight advantage in this category when it comes to projections but that said we switched to Steamer this year who seems to be more harsh on younger players than ZiPs was. Projections were also preseason, not yesterdays numbers so some players may be better or worse that the projections said - but I promise they will probably play accurate - also take note that the game has it's own built in system to cause a player randomly to have a career or sub career season.

                    Next up Potentials and Prospects - first off every prospect is sexy and a future superstar fans of a certain organization - when in fact 90% of these guys will never be more than org filler - just ask Jesus Montero about that one. Our Potentials were based on actual scouting scales, so they are what the general baseball community of scouts think of that player, not what I the fan of my team thinks of them - and while they seem low, we have eradicated the future 2 years down the road having more A prospects than any league should have as well keeping A potential older players from retiring too soon.

                    Lastly for those who just look into numbers of the roster and haven't played more than a few games - give it a chance before you rip it - WTNY has developed a ratings system that gives super accurate in game play as well as at the end of the season real stats - take a look at the graphs WTNY posted in our previous thread if you need proof. Finally those saying that the pitching is stronger than the hitting, have you been watching baseball this or last year?

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                    • WaitTilNextYear
                      Go Cubs Go
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #70
                      Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                      Originally posted by Willard76
                      Finally those saying that the pitching is stronger than the hitting, have you been watching baseball this or last year?
                      The validity (or not validity) of this sentiment is also 100% dependent on your skill level/difficulty and in-game sliders. If you set batting power and contact to 10 and pitch speed to 1, you'll see how scary those big bad pitchers are. lol
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                      • adamj2281
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 814

                        #71
                        Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                        Ok, yeah I will try that and report back stats. I was going to try that this morning before work but ran out of time. The actual games I played (roughly 3) were nicely varied with TNK's sliders. I had one shutdown game by Casey Kelly (fringe AAAA Braves SP), got rocked with Folty (pretty highly upgraded overall wise) and then an average 4ER over 5 1/3 with Aaron Blair.

                        I know that's not a great sample size or really statistically telling, I just was surprised with the sim stats, mainly that there was no real variance between SP's everyone was in the 2's and 3's ERA wise.

                        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                        I'm not sure if you saw it, but in the previous thread I suggested sliders to use in simmed games.

                        SP STAM = 1
                        RP STAM = 6
                        Manager Hook = 5
                        Injuries = 8


                        The SP Stamina slider sort of functions as a switch in this roster. Lower it for more offense, raise it for more pitching.

                        The problem you are having might be related to not having these set as intended.

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                        • referee032003
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 68

                          #72
                          Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                          Just wondering if anyone has put out a roster for 2016 as good as this one with current team rosters for mlb15. I would like to use that for my franchise.

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                          • tonybologna
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 9092

                            #73
                            Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                            Originally posted by referee032003
                            Just wondering if anyone has put out a roster for 2016 as good as this one with current team rosters for mlb15. I would like to use that for my franchise.
                            Don't believe so buddy. I haven't seen any updated rosters for 15 anyhow. That kind of surprises me but don't think it's happened.
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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #74
                              Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                              Originally posted by Garrett59
                              I couldnt agree more. I am a firm believer of prove it in the major before they earn these crazy ratings. Some prospects are regarded way too highly, like Urias an 85 already, come on hes still in the minors. This roster is definitely pitching heavy and imho way too reliant on projections that dont seem to come true taht often. Projections always take the side of caution and this leads to many mediocre ratings shen some people can back up a career year and not decline to career averages
                              Originally posted by Garrett59
                              If i had to take a guess it would be due to many position players offensive stats being lowered and many picthers (who may not deserve it) being raised to pretty high levels. Overall most giys are rated well but looking through it is pretty hard to find elite rated offensive players. MVP J Don, has 70 contact and 80 power after hitting 40 homers and winning MVP because projections are always relunctant to bet on big seasons. I have no idea how this plays yet but my initial glance feels it will be extremely picther friendly.
                              Rule #1 of rerated rosters.

                              Don't look at the rates of players.

                              You have to play the game and see how it plays out; WTNY has already provided sim stats which prove how close to real life the ratings are not only at the end of the season but after MULTIPLE seasons. This is, by far, the best roster for sim-style players like ourselves. If your/my gameplay doesn't mirror real life, then it's a simple slider adjustment.
                              Originally posted by Gibson88
                              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                              • Cavicchi
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2841

                                #75
                                Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                                Then change him in your roster. Problem solved. I don't think he'll keep up what he's doing offensively. We'll see, I guess. I've never seen people this worked up about 1-2 points of OVR/POT.
                                In the future, please read my post more carefully when replying, or at least quote it in reply. I have not downloaded this roster, and I mentioned that in my reply--shown below. In addition, I didn't say how many points Lindor should be increased, simply said A potential. Again, I have not downloaded the roster and have no desire to do that. Now, as for what I said:

                                "I haven't downloaded the roster, but going off what Bat said about Lindor, and the reply interests me. I am of the opinion what players do in the majors supersedes what they did in the minors. Lindor has had 564 at bats in the majors and hitting .312 along with 20 SB (8-1 this year), and in my estimation is without question an A potential. I see him as a potential gold glove shortstop who hits well and a fine baserunner."

                                "Bottom line--564 at bats is pretty much a full season, and I think that supersedes what Lindor hit in the minors."

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