Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

[BigOrangeVol4Life]

First off, I'd like to say how much I appreciate the hard work of everyone who created them.

I'm looking to start an offline franchise and use Nomo's sliders. The way I use the game is a little unique. I don't actually play. I set up all 30 teams to be controlled by the CPU and let the season play out with the CPU playing the games. Later on, I'll start another franchise and play with my Atlanta Braves.

Which set would you recommend?

[Knight165]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

First off, I'd like to say how much I appreciate the hard work of everyone who created them.

I'm looking to start an offline franchise and use Nomo's sliders. The way I use the game is a little unique. I don't actually play. I set up all 30 teams to be controlled by the CPU and let the season play out with the CPU playing the games. Later on, I'll start another franchise and play with my Atlanta Braves.

Which set would you recommend?

The O.S.F.M. sets(non-hybrid) leave the SCEA player ratings intact.
I think especially since it's all CPU play the "stock" sets are the way to go.

M.K.
Knight165

[xNobleEaglex]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

First off, I'd like to say how much I appreciate the hard work of everyone who created them.

I'm looking to start an offline franchise and use Nomo's sliders. The way I use the game is a little unique. I don't actually play. I set up all 30 teams to be controlled by the CPU and let the season play out with the CPU playing the games. Later on, I'll start another franchise and play with my Atlanta Braves.

Which set would you recommend?

In the Hybrid roster, no player goes untouched. Every player is rerated based on Steamer projections, and pitchers have their correct pitch repertoires (WTNY's pitch edits). Loads of testing went into achieving realistic sim results over multiple franchise years, and results from actually playing with the roster are true-to-life as well. I would definitely recommend giving the Hybrid roster a shot.

[chilidogbeefcake]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

Does the hybrid work well for a long term multiple season franchise? Like do generated draft classes mesh well into this set?

[PleasedToMeetMe]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

The O.S.F.M. sets(non-hybrid) leave the SCEA player ratings intact.
I think especially since it's all CPU play the "stock" sets are the way to go.

M.K.
Knight165

What do u use mate?

[Culture Rot]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

Hybrid all the way. SCEA ratings are extremely spotty at best.

[Knight165]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

What do u use mate?

O.S.F.M. v3

Listen....I'm not knocking they Hybrid set.
Great set.
But nobody and I mean NOBODY has simmed/tested and simmed more than I have.
I'm VERY confident in that statement.

For me it's beyond just what stats get spit out.
(and both are more than adequate at that)
The SCEA stock players mesh much better with incoming draft classes than re-rated rosters do IMO and is one of the main reasons I don't mess with them much. Especially entire re-rates.
I also think that progression/regression is tuned for SCEA rated players and over the long haul it shows.

This is absolutely not a knock on the Hybrid as the pitch arsenal's could use a look over from SCEA and some of the speeds and defensive ratings.
But even those...if you consider them out of line with a prevailing thought of what they "should" be ......have to work in line with SCEA's game engines.

After going to S.D. and speaking with Brian about this....and him showing me the correlations between the two....I saw the light of his thinking and went "stock" from there out.

But in the end....it's really a personal preference IMO.

M.K.
Knight165

[tonybologna]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

O.S.F.M. v3

Listen....I'm not knocking they Hybrid set.
Great set.
But nobody and I mean NOBODY has simmed/tested and simmed more than I have.
I'm VERY confident in that statement.

Well, you & WTNY must have simmed an awful lot combined. I know he did a lot of simming too. I'm pretty sure he made the same statement above as you did. Not trying to make this a competition but I have to throw in what WTNY posted as well. Thanks!

[Knight165]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

Well, you & WTNY must have simmed an awful lot combined. I know he did a lot of simming too. I'm pretty sure he made the same statement above as you did. Not trying to make this a competition but I have to throw in what WTNY posted as well. Thanks!

I would join in a competition....I thrive on it!
But I'm busy creating my 1,000,000th player!



M.K.
Knight165

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

I don't think it makes much sense to take Knight's word for OSFM or mine for Hybrid. We are both far too biased and set in our ways with respect to each one.

I am certain that nobody has simmed with our Hybrid roster as much as I have. As for overall, total time simming, I couldn't say.

Ultimately the OP will need to decide what his priorities are and go with one of them rather than basing it too much on some testimonials.

[tonybologna]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

I would join in a competition....I thrive on it!
But I'm busy creating my 1,000,000th player!



M.K.
Knight165

I don't think it makes much sense to take Knight's word for OSFM or mine for Hybrid. We are both far too biased and set in our ways with respect to each one.

I am certain that nobody has simmed with our Hybrid roster as much as I have. As for overall, total time simming, I couldn't say.

Ultimately the OP will need to decide what his priorities are and go with one of them rather than basing it too much on some testimonials.

I wasn't trying to start a Knight & WTNY simming war. Just telling what I had already seen posted. :wink:

[PleasedToMeetMe]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

O.S.F.M. v3

Listen....I'm not knocking they Hybrid set.
Great set.
But nobody and I mean NOBODY has simmed/tested and simmed more than I have.
I'm VERY confident in that statement.

For me it's beyond just what stats get spit out.
(and both are more than adequate at that)
The SCEA stock players mesh much better with incoming draft classes than re-rated rosters do IMO and is one of the main reasons I don't mess with them much. Especially entire re-rates.
I also think that progression/regression is tuned for SCEA rated players and over the long haul it shows.

This is absolutely not a knock on the Hybrid as the pitch arsenal's could use a look over from SCEA and some of the speeds and defensive ratings.
But even those...if you consider them out of line with a prevailing thought of what they "should" be ......have to work in line with SCEA's game engines.

After going to S.D. and speaking with Brian about this....and him showing me the correlations between the two....I saw the light of his thinking and went "stock" from there out.

But in the end....it's really a personal preference IMO.

M.K.
Knight165

Do you use them as they are or use a 40 man roster, if yes, what exactly? Thanks for explaining.

[Knight165]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

Do you use them as they are or use a 40 man roster, if yes, what exactly? Thanks for explaining.

I set it up with 30 team control....and once I get through spring training I assign all teams but the Mets with everything to AUTO and let it ride from there.
I rarely step in to make change.

Right before ST ends...I send down 15 players for each team to the minors and that's it really.

M.K.
Knight165

[HechticSooner]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

Hey Knight does that mean that V3 no longer does pitch edits?

[Viking11]

Re: Torn between 40 man V3 and 40 man Hybrid. What are the major differences?

For me the biggest reason that I use the hybrid is the horrible rated SECA players in the minor leagues. Some of the teams top prospects are rated in the low 50s by SECA but come in closer to 70 on the hybrid roster