The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

[squashbuggie]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

baumy: great work, as always. how accurate are you pitch ratings/pitches the fellas throw ?
I would imagine it is hard to gather such info at this point.

How long do you think 98 would take you to do ?
I would like to put together a small team to do some minor edits to get perfect sim stats - would you think this be a good idea ?

[baumy300]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

baumy: great work, as always. how accurate are you pitch ratings/pitches the fellas throw ?
I would imagine it is hard to gather such info at this point.

How long do you think 98 would take you to do ?
I would like to put together a small team to do some minor edits to get perfect sim stats - would you think this be a good idea ?

Actually it was pretty easy to get the pitch types and speeds for about 90% of them. There's a book out with them in it. Very good and accurate.

I have no idea man, haven't even started it yet. If you are looking for different numbers from the pithing attributes, that's cool if you tweak them to your liking.

[squashbuggie]

Latino heat has volunteered to help me. I already got the edits down for the 1997 season and they likely apply to the 96/98 seasons. after all the work you put in, I am glad to do this or get some help to finish of ur work. Only takes max. of four more hours to complete and rosters are incomplete w/o it, imo.
what is the name of the book you use for pitching and how do you determine control/velocity ?

[baumy300]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

Latino heat has volunteered to help me. I already got the edits down for the 1997 season and they likely apply to the 96/98 seasons. after all the work you put in, I am glad to do this or get some help to finish of ur work. Only takes max. of four more hours to complete and rosters are incomplete w/o it, imo.
what is the name of the book you use for pitching and how do you determine control/velocity ?

Nice. It's called the James Neyer guide.

Out of curiosity, what edits are you making to the pitchers?

I know the stamina should be set for starters, and velocity and pitch type are right on the money for all so you shouldn't have to edit any of that unless you know something the book doesn't. The control for pitchers was determined by a formula in a calculator based on walks and strikeouts I do believe.

The control for each individual pitch was based on what/if the book said anything about a certain type. For example Randy Johnson's slider gets a lot of velocity and break. It's always performed well for me, but it sounds like you know what results you're after. And keep in mind that in this era there were far, far less pitchers hitting 94-95+ in the majors.

I'm interested to hear what formula/method you're applying in four hours bro haha.

[squashbuggie]

You did a great job.
I only edit SP: H/9 - K?9 -BB/9 - HR/9 at minimum.
Your SB/CS and batter ratings are excellent.
I can get sim stats 95% accurate.
For exact fielding %, I edit throw accuracy and fielding ratings.
I sim a season w/ creators ratings and use baseball reference to correct above mention stats/ratings.
I would like to put together several of us to correct every Classic roster.
Only takes a few hours total w/ Season and bit longer w/ Franchise.
Wanna help ?.

[Culture Rot]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

You're welcome man.



Really? That's awesome man. I know how much I enjoy them, so it feels good knowing others might too.

Well I won't let you down then haha. Going to start on 98 either tonight or tomorrow.

I almost forgot how filthy rookie Kerry Wood was. He set strikeout records in his first month or so. Him and Sosa on the same team, Galaragga and rookie hurler John Rocker team up, Boston gets some Cy Young winners with Pedro and Bret Saberhagen, Greg Vaughn goes mashing with San Diego, Piazza heads to NY, and of course McGwire goes on a tear.

I'll post you a more complete overview later. 1998 is definitely one of the best years ever in baseball, hands down.

Awesome
My number one question to you

And squash b uggie
How close can we get to replicating the 98 Home run a chase? the numbers from that era?

[squashbuggie]

90-95% era relative sis stats.

[squashbuggie]

w/ edits and sliders, 90-95% era relative sim stats.

[baumy300]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

You did a great job.
I only edit SP: H/9 - K?9 -BB/9 - HR/9 at minimum.
Your SB/CS and batter ratings are excellent.
I can get sim stats 95% accurate.
For exact fielding %, I edit throw accuracy and fielding ratings.
I sim a season w/ creators ratings and use baseball reference to correct above mention stats/ratings.
I would like to put together several of us to correct every Classic roster.
Only takes a few hours total w/ Season and bit longer w/ Franchise.
Wanna help ?.

Right on man. It all sounds good. The ratings were all made in 2014, and so far I haven't done/put any thought into changing them.

Simmed 96 a few days ago and my MVP was Caminiti and Belle, with most of the league leaders on O being relevant again so I just haven't given this any thought. But I'm intrigued if you guys have found a way to mimic up to 95% statistical accuracy. Good work.

I'm way too busy now man with just 98, but you guys do your thing. If you start 96 edits maybe I can upload the unreleased version with all of my updates and corrections in it.

Awesome
My number one question to you

And squash b uggie
How close can we get to replicating the 98 Home run a chase? the numbers from that era?

Don't know. McGwire and Sosa have maxed power. A lot of pitchers reflect poor HR/9 if applicable so unless you want to tweak sliders I don't know ow what else to say without abandoning the ratings philosophy I've used.

[squashbuggie]

I plan to do just 97 roster, as I have already done pitching ratings for 87 and 2005. Am working to finish 97 and maybe 05 w/ the help of LatinoHeat.
I also did OSFM, V-2.75 edits as well.
basically, there is a decade gap b/t each roster with correct sim stats for us to enjoy.
that way, we can see each player in their prime.

[squashbuggie]

and have you downloaded the 25-Man, 2005 file ?
I am wondering how accurate the pitch edits are for the guys in that roster.

[baumy300]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

I plan to do just 97 roster, as I have already done pitching ratings for 87 and 2005. Am working to finish 97 and maybe 05 w/ the help of LatinoHeat.
I also did OSFM, V-2.75 edits as well.
basically, there is a decade gap b/t each roster with correct sim stats for us to enjoy.
that way, we can see each player in their prime.

That sounds pretty rad man. If I had more time I'd maybe be more into it. It sounds like you're into stats like I'm into rosters. I like it. I'll let you know if I change my mind later.

and have you downloaded the 25-Man, 2005 file ?
I am wondering how accurate the pitch edits are for the guys in that roster.

No I haven't checked it out yet. Mainly been using my sets for editing or in game previews when I'm on.

[squashbuggie]

cool and I am glad to help.
if you get time to check out a few pitchers on the 05 set, please do and let me know what you think.
I am wondering if I need to get the Neyers book for pitches.

[baumy300]

Re: The Official 1996, 1997, and 1998 Roster Project

I am wondering if I need to get the Neyers book for pitches.

Yeah man, if you want the pitchers to throw the correct pitches at accurate speeds, then it's pretty essential.

I'm going to keep focused on 98 for now, but good luck with your project dude.

Just for the hell of it, we should sim a season of 97 when it's done and see the difference in sim stats. It could be pretty cool.

[squashbuggie]

how many pitchers are in the book and what is the time span of pitchers tracked - Is it from like 1950 - 2010 ?

you can download the edits I made to the: OSFM 17 - 2005 (25-Man) - 1987 (90-Man) and sim a season with Injuries OFF.

now, record: Overall League ERA's - K/9 - BB/9 - HR/9 - and SB/CS and compare with the roster w/o edits.

I sadly do not think these roster creators even care about real sim stats - LOL.

Must be a pride thing, I guess.