PITCH EDIT POLL:

[Houston]

Hey guys,

As many of you know I did my first pitch edit chart last year and went with just using SCEA formula for control and break. The way I did them last year was the easiest, fastest way while keeping everything very simple.

Now on my second year doing a pitch edit chart the things you pick up on and learn.

* Some pitchers are throwing new pitches example CC Sabathia first pitch should be a Cutter and SCEA does not have him throwing one at anytime. I went back and check form MLB 14-17 and he doesn't have one so he does not have any ratings for control and break.

So I am kicking the idea around of getting away from how SCEA does there control and break and doing my own formula.

Please let me know your input and take the time to vote what everyone would prefer. I am all about keeping it simple so either I keep using SCEA ratings for control and break like I did last year and give my usual 59 for control and 56 for break or do one better and just start these out at 50-50 if SCEA never gave that pitcher that pitch and there's no rating given by them for this pitchers new pitch.

I reached out to some of the DEVS they just are not willing to reveal there formula. I tried myself to figure out how they come up with there numbers and from what I get it looks like there just generated. I don't think there based off stats. I reached out to JTommy67 and Mavs and a few others like Nomo17 etc but no one really knows how they do there control and break. The guys I mentioned gave great feedback and suggestions, but if I chose to do what they recommended the control would be very low. I really don't want to get to far away from how the control is currently given.

In closing, I know a lot of ratings or formulas are subjective.

[BegBy]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I think the absolute worst thing about their rosters are pitchers. They are just plain bad. You still see way too many guys with 12+ MPH differences in their fastball/changeup speeds. Most of the league throws a circle change, yet I bet there is less than 50 guys that throw it with default rosters. It's always a huge issue that takes away from realism. I'd be shocked if 10% of the pitching repertoire in the entire game is accurate.

[CaseIH]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I think the absolute worst thing about their rosters are pitchers. They are just plain bad. You still see way too many guys with 12+ MPH differences in their fastball/changeup speeds. Most of the league throws a circle change, yet I bet there is less than 50 guys that throw it with default rosters. It's always a huge issue that takes away from realism. I'd be shocked if 10% of the pitching repertoire in the entire game is accurate.

Yep, its alwasy been bad, whoever does this for SCEA, does a poor job each yr. Sad thing is its actually better than it use to be, and its still awful.


As far as what the OP polled, the SCEA ratings as far as break and such, dont bother me as much as just not having the right pitch listed with repertoire.

[shark547]

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At least they got rid of all the 95 mph fastball/knuckleball combo pitchers! That was unbearable!

[Houston]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I think the absolute worst thing about their rosters are pitchers. They are just plain bad. You still see way too many guys with 12+ MPH differences in their fastball/changeup speeds. Most of the league throws a circle change, yet I bet there is less than 50 guys that throw it with default rosters. It's always a huge issue that takes away from realism. I'd be shocked if 10% of the pitching repertoire in the entire game is accurate.

Agreed. All my pitchers on my chart have the Cirlce Change. It is the most common thrown changeup, but there are pitchers who have the vulcan and maybe 1 or 2 with the Palmball on my chart.

[Houston]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

Yep, its alwasy been bad, whoever does this for SCEA, does a poor job each yr. Sad thing is its actually better than it use to be, and its still awful.


As far as what the OP polled, the SCEA ratings as far as break and such, dont bother me as much as just not having the right pitch listed with repertoire.

Well my chart has the actual pitchers true pitches even if they threw it once and keep in mind this is for pitches 1-5 while there is some pitchers who throw more than 5 I always use brooksbaseball.net and I always use frequency of what pitch and what order on my chart.

[lw22]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

Well my chart has the actual pitchers true pitches even if they threw it once and keep in mind this is for pitches 1-5 while there is some pitchers who throw more than 5 I always use brooksbaseball.net and I always use frequency of what pitch and what order on my chart.

me too. I use FanGraphs Baseball too

[TheDarkKnightRises]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I think the absolute worst thing about their rosters are pitchers. They are just plain bad. You still see way too many guys with 12+ MPH differences in their fastball/changeup speeds. Most of the league throws a circle change, yet I bet there is less than 50 guys that throw it with default rosters. It's always a huge issue that takes away from realism. I'd be shocked if 10% of the pitching repertoire in the entire game is accurate.

I really wish Sony had a roster team like Madden/NBA 2k

Those two companies are so far ahead of Sony in the roster game.

[MBMavs20]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I started adding my pitch edits to OSFM 1.5 but ran into the Fastball/Change up issue.

I was editing Jason Garcia of the Orioles. His fastball is 94 MPH and his change up is 90 MPH. However, the closest I could get his Change up was 84 MPH.

It's frustrating. Is there anyway that Sony can change that?

[Houston]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I started adding my pitch edits to OSFM 1.5 but ran into the Fastball/Change up issue.

I was editing Jason Garcia of the Orioles. His fastball is 94 MPH and his change up is 90 MPH. However, the closest I could get his Change up was 84 MPH.

It's frustrating. Is there anyway that Sony can change that?

Is Jason Garcia if he is created on yours yes you will always have issues entering in the correct data. When you do real players there's no issues. I usually leave the change-ups at 0 then do the control and break.

Lat year I noticed this is why SCEA adds that 2SM for the last pitch when they really throw only 3 pitches , I think it has to do with just 3 pitches the numbers don't work the way they do when editing a real pitcher.

[shark547]

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They really just need to let them be set individually. Some people don't fall into some random formula.

[Houston]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

They really just need to let them be set individually. Some people don't fall into some random formula.

It's been this way for years with created pitchers. When doing the real pitchers the velocity doesn't change it sticks, when editing a created pitcher the velocity jumps, I always go back over them once I do the last pitch.

[JaFFiTh]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

It's been this way for years with created pitchers. When doing the real pitchers the velocity doesn't change it sticks, when editing a created pitcher the velocity jumps, I always go back over them once I do the last pitch.

Yeah that part is pain in the butt! I don't know why they lock them like they do to SCEA pitchers. Would make life easier lol

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[Madden08PCgmr]

Re: PITCH EDIT POLL:

I really wish Sony had a roster team like Madden/NBA 2k



Those two companies are so far ahead of Sony in the roster game.

Can't speak for 2k.

Disagree completely about Madden. Completely and totally overhyped and overrated.

I do think MLB warrants the most in depth and detailed ratings system of all sports games. But EA is not the model to follow.

I'm grateful for communities like these. WE make the best rosters, beacuse we're not on a budget, we have no personnel constraints, and we're limited by dev-cycles.


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