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  • patsen29
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 58

    #31
    Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

    Originally posted by SidBream
    I know it saves you time and if you are only controlling one team then default contracts work better. But when using 30 team control and taking part in some/all teams offseason, real contracts makes everything much quicker.

    Hopefully someone can release a version with real contracts.


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    It is a debate we've been having. There were complaints about real contracts, but they may be overreacting. Our goal is to provide the best rosters for simulations, and we're still not sure which approach is best for that.

    We are preparing for both possibilities, including figuring out how best to flatten option years. But it is easier to add them later, than to try to undo them.

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    • Mr_Tercero
      Rookie
      • Apr 2018
      • 21

      #32
      Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

      Originally posted by patsen29
      It is a debate we've been having. There were complaints about real contracts, but they may be overreacting. Our goal is to provide the best rosters for simulations, and we're still not sure which approach is best for that.

      We are preparing for both possibilities, including figuring out how best to flatten option years. But it is easier to add them later, than to try to undo them.
      What about using scaled back real contracts? What I mean by that is changing all the salaries to reflect real life, and then cutting them in half so that the total salaries of all the teams still equal the same amount as the default contracts. That way, you hopefully avoid any issues that come with bloated team budgets compared to what the game is designed for, but you also have realistic salary situations like Felix being by far the highest paid Mariner instead of the fourth highest paid guy on the team.

      This is what I do for my own personal rosters, but I thought I might throw that out as a suggestion since it seems like you guys are looking for a good compromise between real and default contracts. Good luck with everything, appreciate all the hard work.

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      • TheGame8544
        MVP
        • Jul 2003
        • 1656

        #33
        Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

        Originally posted by Bunselpower32
        Hybrid is a term coined by Willard, a fantastic roster maker on these boards because it takes the OSFM (Operation Sports Full Minors) and blends it with rerates of every player based on a scale used by him to attempt to get the game to play to true stats. He does not make the roster anymore but the project has kept that namesake. Every year's release is for the current year's game.


        Yes, thank you. I want to make it clear that all of this was started by Willard and WaitTillNextYear, and we are simply carrying on that legacy with much the same approach they used and same commitment to putting out a roster that gets better with every single release.

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        • NimitsTexan
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 806

          #34
          Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

          Originally posted by Mr_Tercero
          What about using scaled back real contracts? What I mean by that is changing all the salaries to reflect real life, and then cutting them in half so that the total salaries of all the teams still equal the same amount as the default contracts. That way, you hopefully avoid any issues that come with bloated team budgets compared to what the game is designed for, but you also have realistic salary situations like Felix being by far the highest paid Mariner instead of the fourth highest paid guy on the team.
          I would love rosters like that.

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          • Mr_Tercero
            Rookie
            • Apr 2018
            • 21

            #35
            Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

            Originally posted by NimitsTexan
            I would love rosters like that.
            I'm currently updating a OSFM 40-man with real salaries to make this. Let me know if you want to download it and I'll figure out how to upload it (never done that before). Let me know if you have any questions about the roster at all.

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            • Speedy
              #Ace
              • Apr 2008
              • 16143

              #36
              Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

              Sorry if I missed it but is there a timeline? I think in years' past, it was around early to mid-may?
              Originally posted by Gibson88
              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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              • mattlanta
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 2384

                #37
                Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                If there’s anything I can do to help, please let me know.

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                • BigOrangeVol4Life
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 769

                  #38
                  Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                  Originally posted by Mr_Tercero
                  I'm currently updating a OSFM 40-man with real salaries to make this. Let me know if you want to download it and I'll figure out how to upload it (never done that before). Let me know if you have any questions about the roster at all.
                  I'm interested in downloading this too.

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                  • Mr_Tercero
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 21

                    #39
                    Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                    Roster is done! It's titled OSFM 1.5 40Man Scaled Contracts. Under Mr_Tercero. Let me know if it looks like I screwed anything up.

                    As for the rosters, the total team salaries for all 30 teams is $2557 million. Which is very close to default contracts, $2546 million (as opposed to real contracts, $4434 million). It worked out perfectly to just cut everyone's contract in half, made for much easier math for me. As for players whose real salary is less than $2 million, they are between $550 and $1.0 with an eye on minimizing morale issues. Otherwise no changes should've been made to the 1.5 40man real contract roster that I downloaded (except for putting in Blackmon and Marte's new contracts). Hope this works well for you guys, I've been doing this to my rosters for the last couple years and haven't noticed any long term issues in franchise mode. Happy franchising!

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                    • Culture Rot
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3018

                      #40
                      Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                      The best stat simming roster year in and year out

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                      • Njock08
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 38

                        #41
                        Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                        I bet Ohtani is really going to test your skill rating machine. Ha! Never seen anything like that guy. And I have been a baseball fan a long time.
                        I cannot wait to see the finished product. Thank you as always!

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                        • jon brunal
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1015

                          #42
                          Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                          I have several Accurate looking Mets prospect CAP’s in the player Vault made by Daniel Seguin, BigPappaWilly’s Wuilmer Beccera, including OSFM face models of Mets Jaime Callahan I tweaked, and Jacob Rhame. Here’s my caps in the Vault that are accurate looking. 1)Wuilmer Beccera by BigPappaWilly, 2) Jacob Rhame, 3) Jaime Callahan, 4) Peter Alonso by Daniel Seguin, 5) P.J Conlon by Daniel Seguin, 6) Justin Dunn by Daniel Seguin, 7) Bo Bichette and Vladimir Guerrero JR by Daniel Seguin, and 8) Tomas Nido w SCEA data commentary and career stats, copied Daniel Seguin’s player face model, leave the first and last name audio of Tomas Nido alone, same w Jacob Rhame and Jaime Callahan or you’ll lose their commentary storylines. 9) Last but not least, my caps are in the player vault under: jonc8189. Figure if you guys want to use them for hybrid ratings, they’ll be even better.

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                          • trusaleen1
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 384

                            #43
                            Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                            Any ETA on calculator and/or roster?


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                            • mattlanta
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2384

                              #44
                              Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                              Originally posted by trusaleen1
                              Any ETA on calculator and/or roster?


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                              I would honestly give them a few more weeks to get an update and/or an ETA. This is a pretty big roster project they're taking on.

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                              • rovert22044
                                OCD Roster Editor
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2509

                                #45
                                Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                                Originally posted by Mr_Tercero
                                Roster is done! It's titled OSFM 1.5 40Man Scaled Contracts. Under Mr_Tercero. Let me know if it looks like I screwed anything up.

                                As for the rosters, the total team salaries for all 30 teams is $2557 million. Which is very close to default contracts, $2546 million (as opposed to real contracts, $4434 million). It worked out perfectly to just cut everyone's contract in half, made for much easier math for me. As for players whose real salary is less than $2 million, they are between $550 and $1.0 with an eye on minimizing morale issues. Otherwise no changes should've been made to the 1.5 40man real contract roster that I downloaded (except for putting in Blackmon and Marte's new contracts). Hope this works well for you guys, I've been doing this to my rosters for the last couple years and haven't noticed any long term issues in franchise mode. Happy franchising!
                                Everyone PLEASE know that this comment is NOT the Hybrid release.
                                Football Data Analyst @ Tracking Football
                                Founder/CEO @ JUCOHub

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