Props to MonkeyMan

[Vmascarello]

Noticed MonkeyMan just finished his rosters recently. I’m guessing this morning because V10 wasn’t there last night. I just want to give some props to this dude. Pretty sure he did them all by himself and it’s a really strong roster set. He’s not missing really any prospects and most of them are properly rated and look very solid.

While I understand, almost everyone will be using OSFM in this forum and I get it. Those rosters are tremendous as well. But I just thought MonkeyMan did an excellent job on his set and wanted to give him a shoutout. He’s probably put countless hours in since release. Based on the updates he did and the accuracy of the players ratings and looks, he did it all himself and didn’t copy from other roster makers.

Not sure if you visit this forum MonkeyMan, but if you do, very nicely done and a big thanks for all the work you did.

[Caulfield]

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maybe Tweeter or Jan helped him

#Wilburys

[Benz87]

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He definitely does a good job as a hold over until OSFM comes out. Unfortunately, he knows his moment at the top for roster ratings in the vault is on borrowed time. He still comes back every year though, props to him.

[boxers]

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I just checked this roster out today. He actually did a fair amount of useful rerates to SCEA player potentials. I don't know anything about him or his methods but he does good work. I'm happy someone brought him up.

That said, I appreciate all the work that roster/face makers do. Thanks.

[Drty_Windshield]

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It's actually a really good roster set, the only problem is he didn't wait till the game update and service time is wrong for certain players, and that alone is reason enough to not use the roster.

[Njsidge6]

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I feel like this was a great set to kill time and do a little RTTS on the side if you don't care about the minute details OSFM brings

[Gambo]

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That guy’s rosters are terrible. He downloads a few big name caps, rerates a few guys and renames generic players...then spams the vault. Thank god we don’t have to deal with his absurd self promotion on this board anymore.

[coachmac75]

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First i saw someone saying somewhere he could not play without community rosters. I could rally to that. Community rosters make the franchise what it is by giving a farm system.

Now, I think to an extend (and I hope to not be crucified for saying that) all rosters are terrible somehow because they all use the same base which is SD default.

SD default is the worst of all

Does anyone ever compare pitchers pitches types from scout report available online vs what we get IG ?

IG you get 10 pitchers they all are the same: 4F, 2F, CB, CH

In real life you will see half off them have a sinker, some a slider, some dont even have a CB... Pitcher pitches are really badly represented in the SD roster and neither OSFM nor Monkey fix that.

I could use 2B Lowrie s example too. As A's 2B he had low 40 power and low 60 arm strength. This year he has 79 arm strength and 60 power...

So that is factual... i.e. it is what it is and anyone can verify.

Now more subjective.

I remember one year having an argument about Villar speed. SD does really stupid things with their ratings. When he was a Brewers he had like 96spd, then suddenly after leading the league in stealing bases he was down to low 80. Then last year he was with a ridiculous mid 60, and this year he has 85.... So they have absolutely no consistency.

Thing is SD does not bother having a massive change on a player to correct to whatever they want. When a gamer may be looking to carry over a solid franchise and need a reliable roster and would like to avoid non sense rating.

Best rosters initiatives are the one retooling all, absolutely all players ratings
and including pitchers pitch types based on a solid stats based method and process to basically do what SD should be doing. Of course that is a very difficult work.

OSFM and Monkey do not do that unfortunately they give us the minor which is already good to start a franchise.

[sacbillsfan]

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First i saw someone saying somewhere he could not play without community rosters. I could rally to that. Community rosters make the franchise what it is by giving a farm system.

Now, I think to an extend (and I hope to not be crucified for saying that) all rosters are terrible somehow because they all use the same base which is SD default.

SD default is the worst of all

Does anyone ever compare pitchers pitches types from scout report available online vs what we get IG ?

IG you get 10 pitchers they all are the same: 4F, 2F, CB, CH

In real life you will see half off them have a sinker, some a slider, some dont even have a CB... Pitcher pitches are really badly represented in the SD roster and neither OSFM nor Monkey fix that.

I could use 2B Lowrie s example too. As A's 2B he had low 40 power and low 60 arm strength. This year he has 79 arm strength and 60 power...

So that is factual... i.e. it is what it is and anyone can verify.

Now more subjective.

I remember one year having an argument about Villar speed. SD does really stupid things with their ratings. When he was a Brewers he had like 96spd, then suddenly after leading the league in stealing bases he was down to low 80. Then last year he was with a ridiculous mid 60, and this year he has 85.... So they have absolutely no consistency.

Thing is SD does not bother having a massive change on a player to correct to whatever they want. When a gamer may be looking to carry over a solid franchise and need a reliable roster and would like to avoid non sense rating.

Best rosters initiatives are the one retooling all, absolutely all players ratings
and including pitchers pitch types based on a solid stats based method and process to basically do what SD should be doing. Of course that is a very difficult work.

OSFM and Monkey do not do that unfortunately they give us the minor which is already good to start a franchise.

Unless you bring data to the table you're simply being a whiner using your very special eye test. For example, the average sprint speed for MLB was 27 ft/s and that equates to about a 61 speed rating in the Show. Villar average 27.6 ft/s so slightly above average and that equates to a speed rating of 67. So maybe try another player.

[Viking11]

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Unless you bring data to the table you're simply being a whiner using your very special eye test. For example, the average sprint speed for MLB was 27 ft/s and that equates to about a 61 speed rating in the Show. Villar average 27.6 ft/s so slightly above average and that equates to a speed rating of 67. So maybe try another player.

Come on man no need to call anyone a "whiner". I agree speed rating should be done with factual data but he has a point with SD ratings. Does villars average speed really fluctuate that much year to year? I think everyone on these board "whines" about ratings and the default roster or they wouldn't be on here getting the legit rosters

[Viking11]

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First i saw someone saying somewhere he could not play without community rosters. I could rally to that. Community rosters make the franchise what it is by giving a farm system.

Now, I think to an extend (and I hope to not be crucified for saying that) all rosters are terrible somehow because they all use the same base which is SD default.

I will try not to crucify you but there are some guys on this forum who do great pitch edits. My favorite roster projects are the ones that use osfm base and re rate EVERY player while also doing full pitch edits and giving updated gear. I would say it's hard to call those rosters "terrible".

[Vmascarello]

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That guy’s rosters are terrible. He downloads a few big name caps, rerates a few guys and renames generic players...then spams the vault. Thank god we don’t have to deal with his absurd self promotion on this board anymore.

His rosters aren’t terrible. At least he put out a really complete and solid roster set for the community. What have you done? Besides complain and criticize this dude’s hard work. If it wasn’t for OSFM, I’d use these rosters.

It’s fine if you don’t like the set. That is a opinion you are entitled to. But to just call them terrible is just kinda disrespectful to someone trying to give the community rosters to enjoy. I honestly don’t understand criticizing any of these roster makers. Unless they’re copying other people’s work, which MonkeyMan doesn’t. And I know that because his set is unique and he puts it out every year.

I ask before you criticize a roster set. Think about what these people’s intentions are. Their intentions are to give the Show community a roster for free. For that reason, they shouldn’t be criticized publicly. If you don’t like the set, no problem just don’t use it.

[Gambo]

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His rosters aren’t terrible. At least he put out a really complete and solid roster set for the community. What have you done? Besides complain and criticize this dude’s hard work. If it wasn’t for OSFM, I’d use these rosters.

It’s fine if you don’t like the set. That is a opinion you are entitled to. But to just call them terrible is just kinda disrespectful to someone trying to give the community rosters to enjoy. I honestly don’t understand criticizing any of these roster makers. Unless they’re copying other people’s work, which MonkeyMan doesn’t. And I know that because his set is unique and he puts it out every year.

I ask before you criticize a roster set. Think about what these people’s intentions are. Their intentions are to give the Show community a roster for free. For that reason, they shouldn’t be criticized publicly. If you don’t like the set, no problem just don’t use it.

I’ve done statistical mods, graphic mods and supplied add ons at no cost for multiple sports games on multiple platforms since the 1990s. I’ve been a beta tester and assisted in development on multiple games as well during that time.

I’d never criticize anybody’s work if the intention was to do a good job and be gracious enough to provide them at no cost to community.

The problem is this guy advertises his work as something it isn’t. Bad work is one thing, lying about what it is; is another. He’s the video game equivalent of a snake oil salesmen...preying upon the ignorant and needy to get a download count.

If that was all fine...there’s a sucker born everyday. Beyond all that his behavior on this board was abhorrent towards other members and despite being asked, decided to continue to the detriment on the board. His account was locked and he decided to create multiple other accounts to continue to be a nuisance.

For the Show and other games he spams the vaults with his product making the user experience more difficult...all for the sake of “popularity”?

Yes they are terrible because they are not what they advertise. They are not an accurate 90 man roster with everybody rated appropriately. They have a few people fixed and the rest are renames/rates. He lies about what they are because he knows people won’t notice/won’t care.

[il blood il]

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I will try not to crucify you but there are some guys on this forum who do great pitch edits. My favorite roster projects are the ones that use osfm base and re rate EVERY player while also doing full pitch edits and giving updated gear. I would say it's hard to call those rosters "terrible".

mind pointing me in the direction of the thread for 2019 pitch edits please?