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  • Teleo
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 2302

    #76
    Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

    Originally posted by Teleo
    Have you been able to simulate multiple seasons out to see how incoming draft classes lineup with this roster? Just want to make sure that the computer generated draft classes don’t overpower the potential players that are already within the roster
    Can someone please answer this question? This is one of the key elements to ensure proper distribution of talent throughout multiple seasons of franchise. It is vital to know how they work with draft classes or if there is a modifying guide for draft classes to go along with this re-rated roster.

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    • DarthRambo
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 6630

      #77
      Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

      So if you were to re-rate Eugenio Suarez what would his contact attributes be? He is God awful this year and I don't see it changing much for the better. Has carried over from poor 2020 season as well so it's not just a cold spell IMO. Reds fan so it hurts to edit him but inside my franchise he's batting .349 with only 17k through only 21 games but definitely his attributes need dropped. All cpu controlled...havent played with them yet in my franchise.

      76/80 contact R/L is extremely high for him so just curious what you think or what others may have edited him to. 71 vision is pretty high as well I think.

      Myself, I'm thinking contact to be 46/50 and vision dropped down to 60 at least. Probably could go lower for contact ratings honestly. Not complaining, LOVE the rosters! Just here and there I will edit a guy if he's doing so bad or good compared to attributes in game. Suarez fits that category. Thanks for you're hard work on these. Getting into a franchise and can't stop playing.

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      Last edited by DarthRambo; 06-01-2021, 02:49 PM.
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      • ViatorLion10
        Banned
        • Mar 2019
        • 368

        #78
        Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

        Originally posted by IrishSalsa
        So if you were to re-rate Eugenio Suarez what would his contact attributes be? He is God awful this year and I don't see it changing much for the better. Has carried over from poor 2020 season as well so it's not just a cold spell IMO. Reds fan so it hurts to edit him but inside my franchise he's batting .349 with only 17k through only 21 games but definitely his attributes need dropped. All cpu controlled...havent played with them yet in my franchise.

        76/80 contact R/L is extremely high for him so just curious what you think or what others may have edited him to. 71 vision is pretty high as well I think.

        Myself, I'm thinking contact to be 46/50 and vision dropped down to 60 at least. Probably could go lower for contact ratings honestly. Not complaining, LOVE the rosters! Just here and there I will edit a guy if he's doing so bad or good compared to attributes in game. Suarez fits that category. Thanks for you're hard work on these. Getting into a franchise and can't stop playing.

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        I've actually done some work for a roster set I was planning on doing. My ratings look like this:


        Con R: 55
        Con L: 47
        Pwr R: 90
        Pwr L: 86
        Vision: 20
        Discipline: 79
        Potential: 82 (equivalent of an above-average to great player)

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        • DarthRambo
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 6630

          #79
          Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

          Originally posted by ViatorLion10
          I've actually done some work for a roster set I was planning on doing. My ratings look like this:


          Con R: 55
          Con L: 47
          Pwr R: 90
          Pwr L: 86
          Vision: 20
          Discipline: 79
          Potential: 82 (equivalent of an above-average to great player)
          Awesome thanks! I'm going to use these. After looking at his attributes would you say every player needs Vision dropped by at least 10 across-the-board? If his is 20 then most everyone else is near 4x vision than him which feels unrealistic. But 20 vision for Saurez is probably where it needs to be nonetheless.

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          • ViatorLion10
            Banned
            • Mar 2019
            • 368

            #80
            Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

            Originally posted by IrishSalsa
            Awesome thanks! I'm going to use these. After looking at his attributes would you say every player needs Vision dropped by at least 10 across-the-board? If his is 20 then most everyone else is near 4x vision than him which feels unrealistic. But 20 vision for Saurez is probably where it needs to be nonetheless.

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            I did a lot of testing to see how real life stats can correlate to game ratings. While most attributes hover around the 60-65 level for league average, vision is actually completely off. League average K% for hitters is roughly 22.5%. To get that, you need a vision of about 42

            On the flip side of this, but visions being high across the board, it severely hurts K/9 numbers of pitchers. I’ve seen guys like Darvish not even break 10 K/9 even though he’s an elite strikeout pitcher


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            • DarthRambo
              MVP
              • Mar 2008
              • 6630

              #81
              Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

              Originally posted by ViatorLion10
              I did a lot of testing to see how real life stats can correlate to game ratings. While most attributes hover around the 60-65 level for league average, vision is actually completely off. League average K% for hitters is roughly 22.5%. To get that, you need a vision of about 42

              On the flip side of this, but visions being high across the board, it severely hurts K/9 numbers of pitchers. I’ve seen guys like Darvish not even break 10 K/9 even though he’s an elite strikeout pitcher


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              Yeah definitely not near enough strikeouts in the game compared to real life. Buehler had 12ks against me but that's cause I swung at bad pitches and gave him probably 3-4 of those strikeouts.

              Maybe as I play I'll edit as I go and drop vision by -15 across the board.

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              • ViatorLion10
                Banned
                • Mar 2019
                • 368

                #82
                Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                Yeah definitely not near enough strikeouts in the game compared to real life. Buehler had 12ks against me but that's cause I swung at bad pitches and gave him probably 3-4 of those strikeouts.

                Maybe as I play I'll edit as I go and drop vision by -15 across the board.

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                I'd say if you're doing generic, drop by 20 for all players <80 vision, 10 for 80-90, and leave it alone for guys >90

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                • Bonk_McNeeley
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 159

                  #83
                  Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                  Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                  I'd say if you're doing generic, drop by 20 for all players <80 vision, 10 for 80-90, and leave it alone for guys >90
                  Dude...You're SUPER ANNOYING! I've seen you high jack multiple roster creator's threads now, always complaining about their methods, and now you're pushing your roster in this thread.

                  You've had multiple people bring this up to you, yet you still seem not to get it. Which is ironic, since you're constantly complaining about just giving people constructive feedback to help them.

                  Practice what you preach! If people are interested in your thoughts, or your roster, then they'll find you in that thread.

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                  • ViatorLion10
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 368

                    #84
                    Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                    Originally posted by Bonk_McNeeley
                    Dude...You're SUPER ANNOYING! I've seen you high jack multiple roster creator's threads now, always complaining about their methods, and now you're pushing your roster in this thread.

                    You've had multiple people bring this up to you, yet you still seem not to get it. Which is ironic, since you're constantly complaining about just giving people constructive feedback to help them.

                    Practice what you preach! If people are interested in your thoughts, or your roster, then they'll find you in that thread.

                    .............the man asked a question and I responded. Not sure what your problem is

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                    • Teleo
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 2302

                      #85
                      Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                      Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                      .............the man asked a question and I responded. Not sure what your problem is
                      The thing that is getting people annoyed - in my assumption - is that you don’t direct questions over to your own roster thread to be answered there. I believe if you did that - people would be less annoyed - just my 2 cents

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                      • ViatorLion10
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 368

                        #86
                        Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                        Originally posted by Teleo
                        The thing that is getting people annoyed - in my assumption - is that you don’t direct questions over to your own roster thread to be answered there. I believe if you did that - people would be less annoyed - just my 2 cents

                        I never once said I had a thread in my response to him. He asked for ratings on Eugenio Suarez, and I told him how I came to those values.


                        This is a forum. Questions, answers, and discussion are supposed to take place. I'm not sure what the problem is here.

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                        • DarthRambo
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6630

                          #87
                          Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                          Lmao why are ppl other than the OP getting so mad over an answered question about rosters? If the OP doesn't prefer certain things discussed within HIS created rostee thread then he is the one to say something. Am I supposed to create a new thread for every question I may have? Especially player specific ones? It's way out of line to get all pissy when you're not the OP. If McNulty has a problem let him say so. Smoke a bowl and chill my brother cause it ain't that deep.

                          If he doesn't then why does it matter to anyone else? The country would be 1000% better if people just stopped worrying about what someone else is doing or not doing. Mind their own business.

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                          Last edited by kehlis; 06-08-2021, 12:46 PM.
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                          • Bonk_McNeeley
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 159

                            #88
                            Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                            Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                            I never once said I had a thread in my response to him. He asked for ratings on Eugenio Suarez, and I told him how I came to those values.


                            This is a forum. Questions, answers, and discussion are supposed to take place. I'm not sure what the problem is here.
                            Nobody asked you the question, you get that right? They asked BrianMcNulty11 that question, you know, since the thread is discussing his roster.

                            If you put half the time into your own roster, that you put into trolling other roster creators, you may get more traffic to your thread.

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                            • ViatorLion10
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 368

                              #89
                              Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                              Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                              Lmao why are ppl other than the OP getting so mad over an answered question about rosters? If the OP doesn't prefer certain things discussed within HIS created rostee thread then he is the one to say something. Am I supposed to create a new thread for every question I may have? Especially player specific ones? It's way out of line to get all pissy when you're not the OP. If McNulty has a problem let him say so. Smoke a bowl and chill my brother cause it ain't that deep.

                              If he doesn't then why does it matter to anyone else? The country would be 1000% better if people just stopped worrying about what someone else is doing or not doing. Mind their own business. Ppl like those getting pissy also probably yell at someone for not wearing a dumb mask too. Just scroll on by or I'm sure there is a block button here. Just my two cents

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                              Bonk and Teleo have been pissy at me for a while now because I share opinions and give feedback on threads


                              Maybe I'm confused, but aren't those the purpose of forums? If you don't want people to respond with their thoughts, don't post in a forum IMO

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                              • Teleo
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 2302

                                #90
                                Re: 1000+ Hour MLB Roster 2021......

                                Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                                Bonk and Teleo have been pissy at me for a while now because I share opinions and give feedback on threads


                                Maybe I'm confused, but aren't those the purpose of forums? If you don't want people to respond with their thoughts, don't post in a forum IMO
                                Hey man - I’m not going to carry this on in someone’s thread - I’ve been a member of OS for quite a long time - and I’m always supportive of people’s thoughts and additions when it’s to help - I merely stated an observation of an assumption that people may be feeling towards you when you have your own thread to direct responses to - It’s definitely cool on my end so please don’t refer to me as being “pissy” - such an immature thing to assume

                                And on that - I’m looking forward to Cycloniacs roster release
                                Last edited by Teleo; 06-02-2021, 07:03 PM. Reason: Wording

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