Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike %

[xCULLO]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

GAME 1
All Star Pitching(METER) CON/CONSIS - 0

SD: 0 5 0
LAD: 4 7 0

Win: C. Kershaw
Loss: I. Kennedy

Starting Pitching:

I. Kennedy: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 82 Pitches, 54 Strikes, 28 Balls, 66% Overall Strikes

C. Kershaw: 8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, 102 Pitches, 81 Strikes, 21 Balls, 79% Overall Strikes

Team Pitching:

SD: 147 Pitches, 91 Strikes, 56 Balls, 62% Overall Strikes
LAD: 129 Pitches, 102 Strikes, 27 Balls, 79% Overall Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

SD: 11
LAD: 8

Team Walks:

SD: 0
LAD: 3

Extra Base Hits:

SD: 1
2B: R. Pena

LAD: 4
2B: J. Uribe
3B: Y. Puig
HR: A. Gonzalez, Y. Grandal

SIDE NOTES:
-I've been testing the sliders in a Franchise, and so far seeing a lot of easy fly balls getting dropped (Not due to over-running or not in right position, literally just bouncing out of the glove).
-Lots of throwing errors and pulling cut-off men out of position.
-Stolen Bases are fairly easy if you wait a couple pitches into an at bat with no extra lead. Got a few stand-up triples but they were both in San Fran/San Diego so that could be park factor.
When listening to radio show I'm noticing a lot of complete games are happening from pitchers with average stamina.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Sounds good I've been tweaking the sliders a bit to my preference as well because i was having trouble getting XBH. Almost done with a game now and will be posting the box score.

Up to this point, I haven't noticed a lack in extra base hits. I've been getting a good variety of doubles and home runs, with the occasional triple being thrown in. Be careful of adjusting the sliders too much at once, as it may throw some of the other hitting sliders out of wack. Of course, I encourage people to tweak the set to their liking/skill level, but I always suggest starting in 1-2 click increments.

GAME 1
All Star Pitching(METER) CON/CONSIS - 0

SD: 0 5 0
LAD: 4 7 0

Win: C. Kershaw
Loss: I. Kennedy

Starting Pitching:

I. Kennedy: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 82 Pitches, 54 Strikes, 28 Balls, 66% Overall Strikes

C. Kershaw: 8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, 102 Pitches, 81 Strikes, 21 Balls, 79% Overall Strikes

Team Pitching:

SD: 147 Pitches, 91 Strikes, 56 Balls, 62% Overall Strikes
LAD: 129 Pitches, 102 Strikes, 27 Balls, 79% Overall Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

SD: 11
LAD: 8

Team Walks:

SD: 0
LAD: 3

Extra Base Hits:

SD: 1
2B: R. Pena

LAD: 4
2B: J. Uribe
3B: Y. Puig
HR: A. Gonzalez, Y. Grandal

SIDE NOTES:
-I've been testing the sliders in a Franchise, and so far seeing a lot of easy fly balls getting dropped (Not due to over-running or not in right position, literally just bouncing out of the glove).
-Lots of throwing errors and pulling cut-off men out of position.
-Stolen Bases are fairly easy if you wait a couple pitches into an at bat with no extra lead. Got a few stand-up triples but they were both in San Fran/San Diego so that could be park factor.
When listening to radio show I'm noticing a lot of complete games are happening from pitchers with average stamina.

Hey man,

I really appreciate you posting a box score, as that is the most helpful thing to me during the testing phase. It also helps me give suggestions/direction on any slider tweaks that may be needed.

As far as the pitching stats, I like Kennedy's numbers (although he's a huge D-Bag). If you could for your next game include the first pitch strike percentage as well, because that's just as important (if not more) than overall strike percentages. Let me know if you need help locating that in the in-game menu.

As far as your stats, it's really hard to gauge, because well....it's Kershaw. He's a beast, and a strike throwing machine, so it's really hard to tell whether or not Control/Consistency at 0 is going to work for you using Meter Pitching. 79% is extremely high for an overall strike percentage. Basically, 4 out of every five pitches you made were for strikes. That's really hard to achieve in real-life even if you are the greatest pitcher on the planet like Kershaw is. My suggestion there would be to use the same settings with a pitcher like Anderson, or maybe even give a spot start to Nicasio, and see what kind of numbers you get. If you are still above 70% in overall strikes, perhaps you can try moving up to HOF pitching to see if that helps. Personally, I'd stick with Classic, but that's just because I'm biased. LOL

Thanks for the side notes as well. Your observations really help because stolen bases are not an area that I've really dove into just yet. In exhibitions, I wouldn't say that stealing bases has been "easy". It seems like if you get a good jump (even without an extra lead), you have a good chance of swiping the bag. However, if you don't get a good jump, and if there's a decent catcher at home plate, you'll more than likely get thrown out. If I had to guess at my stolen base percentage right now, I'd say it's maybe in the 70% range? That would only be a guess though.

My concerns are with the errors that you're speaking of in Franchise mode. That would be BAD. I haven't seen one outfielder drop an easy fly ball in any of the 13 games that I've played to this point, all of which have been in Exhibition mode. That would lead me to believe that the sliders (at least the error sliders) may be performing differently in the two modes, which again would be really, really, BAD.

Good observation on the throwing errors, because I have been seeing the same thing even in Exhibition mode, where outfielders make poor throws to the cut-off men, pulling them out of position. This doesn't ALWAYS result in the runner advancing, but it's annoying for sure. I'm thinking that maybe we can lower Outfielder/Infielder Throwing Errors to 4, to see if the issue is rectified. Thoughts?

Lastly, your observation about the complete games. This unfortunately wouldn't be tied to my slider set, because unless anything has changed, the sim stats run on a completely different engine than the games that we actually play. That would be a franchise killer for me, because my goal is to actually play a 162 game season this year, and having unrealistic sim stats would put a damper on it for sure.

Keep the feedback and stats coming, dude. I appreciate it.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Detail - Check
Testing Time - Check

Bad @$$ - Double Check!

Thanks man I will give them a go tonight and post a box score for you - as always I thank everyone who attempts to make a great game greater!!

Thanks for giving them a shot, man. Hope you enjoy them.

[SupremeYankee]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

15 seems to play very differently than 14 so Im going to give these a go for my next few exhibition games and see how they come out, Im having a hard time getting my timing down this year (everything seems so slow even on 10) so its worth a shot to try different sets.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

15 seems to play very differently than 14 so Im going to give these a go for my next few exhibition games and see how they come out, Im having a hard time getting my timing down this year (everything seems so slow even on 10) so its worth a shot to try different sets.

Thanks for giving them a shot, man. I don't know if I'd say that pitches feel "slow", per se. But I will say that it feels a little bit different, and I think that's because of the new pitch break system.

Let me know how your test games come out. Would love to see stats.

[xCULLO]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

As far as the pitching stats, I like Kennedy's numbers (although he's a huge D-Bag). If you could for your next game include the first pitch strike percentage as well, because that's just as important (if not more) than overall strike percentages. Let me know if you need help locating that in the in-game menu.

I actually do need help locating the first strike percentage! I'm probably not looking hard enough, lol.

And as for he dropped fly balls I'm sorry I didn't clarify earlier but I did see a few while playing exhibition games as well as a DD game I played. To be more specific the players I've seen this happen to are: Puig, C. Crawford, H. Pence, and J. Bautista. Puig, Pence, and Bautista - ball bounced right out glove, Crawford was in position and ball sailed right by his glove.

Will be starting up another game now pitching with Nicasio, box score in about an hour!

[SupremeYankee]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I'm not going to say I'm in love just yet but there was some definite movement in the lower region of my pants during this game.

Game 1 Cleveland @ Detroit (I was DET)
CLE: 7 12 1
DET: 5 12 1

Final in 11 innnings, I was very aggressive at the plate since I've been slow to get hits so far in mlb 15, I will hold back a little bit more since switching to classic pitching and directional hitting give me a chance to focus more on waiting for a good pitch rather than making sure i move my zone and get a good pitch. Also being someone who always used pulse pitching switching to classic and relying on the player stats was a very welcome change.

Win: S. Atchison - 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 40 Pitches, 34 Strikes, 6 Balls, 85% Overall Strikes, 85% First Pitch Strikes (Relief Win)
Loss: T. Gorzelany - 3.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 50 Pitches, 37 Strikes, 13 Balls, 74% Overall Strikes, 60% First Pitch Strikes (Relief Loss)

Starter Stats :
DET - D. Price - 6 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, 100 Pitches, 70% Strikes, 56% First Pitch Strike

Cle - Kluber - 6 IP, 10 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 59 Pitches, 88% Strikes, 85% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

CLE: 106 Pitches, 91 Strikes, 15 Balls, 86% Overall Strikes, 86% First Pitch Strikes
DET: 185 Pitches, 130 Strikes, 55 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 57% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

CLE: 12
DET: 8

Team Walks:

CLE: 1
DET: 0

Extra Base Hits:

CLE: 5
2B: M. Bourn, Chisenhall
3B: M. Brantley, N. Swisher, Chisenhall

DET : 4
3B - Kinsler , V. Martinez
HR - Cabrera, Iglesias

[Shuckman]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I am going to play a few spring training games today to test the sliders out some more. I will post some box scores for you to look at.

Thanks

[xCULLO]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

GAME 2
All Star Pitching(METER) CON/CONSIS - 0

SF: 2 9 1
LAD: 6 13 0

Win: J. Nicasio
Loss: M. Bumgarner

Starting Pitching:

M. Bumgarner: 4.0 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 70 Pitches, 53 Strikes, 17 Balls, 76% Overall Strikes

J. Nicasio: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 65 Pitches, 47 Strikes, 18 Balls, 72% Overall Strikes

Team Pitching:

SF: 108 Pitches, 81 Strikes, 27 Balls, 75% Overall Strikes
LAD: 131 Pitches, 94 Strikes, 37 Balls, 72% Overall Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

SF: 9
LAD: 7

Team Walks:

SF: 2 (1 HBP)
LAD: 0

Extra Base Hits:

SF: 3
2B: J. Panik, B. Belt, B. Crawford

LAD: 4
2B: Y. Puig, A. Gonzalez, J. Uribe
HR: Y. Puig

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I actually do need help locating the first strike percentage! I'm probably not looking hard enough, lol.

And as for he dropped fly balls I'm sorry I didn't clarify earlier but I did see a few while playing exhibition games as well as a DD game I played. To be more specific the players I've seen this happen to are: Puig, C. Crawford, H. Pence, and J. Bautista. Puig, Pence, and Bautista - ball bounced right out glove, Crawford was in position and ball sailed right by his glove.

Will be starting up another game now pitching with Nicasio, box score in about an hour!

Haha. No worries, man. To get the first pitch strike percentage, in the post-game menu (you can check it during the game, as well), go to Pitcher Analysis. There is a toggle option called "Situation", which I believe is the fourth option from the top. Press right on the D-Pad, and that will bring up "First Pitch". That's your first pitch strike percentage. When logging your stats, get first pitch percentages for your starter, as well as "ALL" pitchers, which includes your starters and relievers.

Dude, I honestly haven't seen a dropped ball in the outfield at all yet. I've seen a ball bounce out of the glove when outfielders dive for balls, but of course, those aren't considered errors. Really strange how you've seen so many, and I haven't seen any up to this point. Have you made any changes to the error sliders from default???

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

itbeme... I'm hoping to get some more test games in this week/weekend... I'll post my box scores.

[SupremeYankee]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Game 2 (I was Baltimore)

Game played very well, Tillman threw a gem only giving up one run and shutting down Boston's offense without really getting into too many jams. Im starting to notice that the outfielders do seem to be getting to everything with the quickness so I may drop Fielder Reaction to a 5 for a few games but I am undecided on that at this moment, I think a few more games with the stats listed on page 1 of this thread are required before I start making any more adjustments than pitch speed which is preference anyway.

BOS: 1 8 0
BAL: 4 10 2

Win: C. Tillman - 7 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 90 Pitches, 61 Strikes, 29 Balls, 68% Overall Strikes, 57% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: R. Porcello - 5 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 48 Pitches, 42 Strikes, 6 Balls, 88% Overall Strikes, 91% First Pitch Strikes
Save: Z. Britton - 1 IP, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 10 Pitches, 4 Strikes, 6 Balls, 40% Overall Strikes, 25% First Strikes

Team Pitching:

BOS: 77 Pitches, 67 Strikes, 10 Balls, 87% Overall Strikes, 91% First Pitch Strikes
BAL: 114 Pitches, 74 Strikes, 40 Balls, 65% Overall Strikes, 56% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

BOS: 5
BAL: 7

Team Walks:

BOS: 1
BAL: 0

Extra Base Hits:

BOS: 1
2B: D. Pedroia

BAL: 2
HR: M. Machado, C. Davis (The C stands for Crush)

[Shuckman]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Spring Training game 1

Cubs"me", 3 runs, 9 hits, 1 error
Rockies, 7 runs, 8 hits, 0 errors

I had a error in LF in the first inning which led to 2 unearned runs. My LF just totally whiffed a routine fly ball.

Pitching totals

Cubs, 128 pitches, 90 strikes, 38 balls, 70% strikes, 65% First strike
Rockies, 108 pitches, 82 strikes, 26 balls, 76% strikes, 67% First Strike

Cubs, Hendricks, 4 IP, 48 pitches,0 bb, 3 k, 73% strikes, 69% First Strike
Rockies, Kendrick, 3IP, 25 pitches,0 bb, 2 k, 72% strikes, 56% First Strike

Hitting

Cubs
2B:Montero(1)
Hr: PH K.Schwarber(1), K.Braynt(1)

Rockies
2B: Morneau(1), Arenado(1), Rosario(1)
HR: Tulo(1), Hundley(1) Arenado(1)

Extra Notes: The game played really well and was close until I brought Edwin Jackson in . I am seeing if I may carry him in my bullpen as a long reliever and emergency starter but he got rocked for 2 doubles and 2 home runs.
The error in the first inning still bothers me a little but it happens.Both teams were hitting the ball well and both teams ended up with 7k's each.
Well I will play another game later and report back.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I'm not going to say I'm in love just yet but there was some definite movement in the lower region of my pants during this game.

That literally made me LOL. Good stuff.

Game 1 Cleveland @ Detroit (I was DET)
CLE: 7 12 1
DET: 5 12 1

Final in 11 innnings, I was very aggressive at the plate since I've been slow to get hits so far in mlb 15, I will hold back a little bit more since switching to classic pitching and directional hitting give me a chance to focus more on waiting for a good pitch rather than making sure i move my zone and get a good pitch. Also being someone who always used pulse pitching switching to classic and relying on the player stats was a very welcome change.

Win: S. Atchison - 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 40 Pitches, 34 Strikes, 6 Balls, 85% Overall Strikes, 85% First Pitch Strikes (Relief Win)
Loss: T. Gorzelany - 3.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 50 Pitches, 37 Strikes, 13 Balls, 74% Overall Strikes, 60% First Pitch Strikes (Relief Loss)

Starter Stats :
DET - D. Price - 6 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, 100 Pitches, 70% Strikes, 56% First Pitch Strike

Cle - Kluber - 6 IP, 10 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 59 Pitches, 88% Strikes, 85% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

CLE: 106 Pitches, 91 Strikes, 15 Balls, 86% Overall Strikes, 86% First Pitch Strikes
DET: 185 Pitches, 130 Strikes, 55 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 57% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

CLE: 12
DET: 8

Team Walks:

CLE: 1
DET: 0

Extra Base Hits:

CLE: 5
2B: M. Bourn, Chisenhall
3B: M. Brantley, N. Swisher, Chisenhall

DET : 4
3B - Kinsler , V. Martinez
HR - Cabrera, Iglesias

Most of your stats look good, dude. Especially offensively. However, pitching stats aren't as good as they could be, because as you said, you were pretty aggressive at the plate. That always leads to high strike percentages for the CPU. These sliders require that you be patient at the plate, get deep into counts, and swing at good pitches. There's a domino effect that will occur,which will lead to better hitting, more walks, and driving the CPU pitch count up. But honestly, everything looks pretty good, otherwise. The only thing that I can see that would need improvement are the CPU strike percentages.

Looking forward to seeing more games from you!

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Game 2 (I was Baltimore)

Game played very well, Tillman threw a gem only giving up one run and shutting down Boston's offense without really getting into too many jams. Im starting to notice that the outfielders do seem to be getting to everything with the quickness so I may drop Fielder Reaction to a 5 for a few games but I am undecided on that at this moment, I think a few more games with the stats listed on page 1 of this thread are required before I start making any more adjustments than pitch speed which is preference anyway.

BOS: 1 8 0
BAL: 4 10 2

Win: C. Tillman - 7 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 90 Pitches, 61 Strikes, 29 Balls, 68% Overall Strikes, 57% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: R. Porcello - 5 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 48 Pitches, 42 Strikes, 6 Balls, 88% Overall Strikes, 91% First Pitch Strikes
Save: Z. Britton - 1 IP, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 10 Pitches, 4 Strikes, 6 Balls, 40% Overall Strikes, 25% First Strikes

Team Pitching:

BOS: 77 Pitches, 67 Strikes, 10 Balls, 87% Overall Strikes, 91% First Pitch Strikes
BAL: 114 Pitches, 74 Strikes, 40 Balls, 65% Overall Strikes, 56% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

BOS: 5
BAL: 7

Team Walks:

BOS: 1
BAL: 0

Extra Base Hits:

BOS: 1
2B: D. Pedroia

BAL: 2
HR: M. Machado, C. Davis (The C stands for Crush)

Dude, the stats look SO good!!! But those strike percentages are KILLING me....LOL. But I'm OCD about that. If you like them the way they are, then that's all that matters.

As far as Outfielder Reaction goes, personally, I haven't seen plays where I feel like I'm getting robbed of a deserved hit/XBH, nor have I seen the CPU making crazy superman-like plays either. Extra base hit totals seem to be right where they should be, but as you said, we're still in the testing phase. It's possible that there may be a change yet to come. The main reason why I moved the Outfielder Reaction slider up was because of the "stuck in the mud" animations that were occurring on fly balls. If you haven't seen them yet, trust me, they look pretty bad.