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  • DarthRambo
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 6630

    #1

    Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

    I'm 36 games into my Indians franchise playing every game and looking at my team stats. I lead the MLB with 22 triples. Yankees are 2nd with 15 and most teams have played 2-3 more games than I have.

    Then I noticed I'm 29th with only 53 doubles. Obvious to me that a lot of these triples should really be only doubles.

    A lot of it is because of the bad fielding animations, especially the canned ones. But what does everyone have fielder speed at?

    I had it at 5 for a while then moved it up to 6. Now I'm thinking 7 but Idk...so where do you guys see best results in regards to triples vs doubles?



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  • KBLover
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #2
    Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

    I have Fielder Speed at 0 vs Baserunner Speed at 1 or 2 (trying to decide which way I want to lean). I have Outfield Arm Strength at 3.

    I can't play with Fielder Speed much higher than 0. Too many zones that are tough to defend in real life unless the batter hits a poorer trajectory are too easy imo if fielders are fast. Also seems to diminish the new Fielder AI system this year, which I enjoy and really notice at Fielder Speed: 0.
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    • DarthRambo
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 6630

      #3
      Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

      Never thought to lower BR speed. Does that help with the over agressiveness on the bases?

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      • KBLover
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 12172

        #4
        Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

        I think it does. Also helps with taking 2 bases on deep sac flies too often.

        Also helps with the routine grounders turning into nail biting plays from average runners.

        It doesn't seem to hurt stolen bases too much as well.

        Triples are still a thing. Chris Taylor has 5 in a partial season (hurt now). Called up a rookie draftee from MLB14 and he has 5. Taylor has 80-something speed and Baldwin (the rookie) is 95. Had the AI get some as well, especially if hit to Stanton and he takes a not so optimal (read: bad) route to the ball.
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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21789

          #5
          Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

          Originally posted by KBLover
          I have Fielder Speed at 0 vs Baserunner Speed at 1 or 2 (trying to decide which way I want to lean). I have Outfield Arm Strength at 3.

          I can't play with Fielder Speed much higher than 0. Too many zones that are tough to defend in real life unless the batter hits a poorer trajectory are too easy imo if fielders are fast. Also seems to diminish the new Fielder AI system this year, which I enjoy and really notice at Fielder Speed: 0.
          I adjusted my own slider in this area to 2 and noticed a huge improvement as well.

          I am very curious now about the 0 theory and turning down baserunner speed to 2 as a start.

          The new speed tuning they did this year is awesome....but over powering at default. I am going to test "0" fielder speed and 2 on baserunner speed.
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          • DarthRambo
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 6630

            #6
            Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

            The reason I raised it is I was getting too many triples that really should've been doubles irl.

            I can def see how your settings would help and I like the idea of not have so close of plays at first on ground outs. What do you have fielder reaction at? I have it at 6 and feel good about it.

            This and fielding errors are the two things with my sliders I'm not set on yet. This one is major because it affects a lot more of how a game can end.


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            • DarthRambo
              MVP
              • Mar 2008
              • 6630

              #7
              Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

              Just played a game with fielder speed at 0, BR speed at 1. I know small sample but I liked it.

              I really liked seeing me able to throw a guy out at first on a comebacker where the fielder takes his time getting to the ball. Normally he is way safe cuz the fielding sucks overall. I saved a run by getting him out too.

              I really like baserunner speed slower. I had it at 4 but at 1 it felt much better.

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              • Bobhead
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 4926

                #8
                Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                The quartet of Arm Strength, Fielder Speed, Reaction, and Baserunner Speed all have a significant role here. I don't know what sliders you are using but if you've changed any of these from default without balancing the others, that's very likely the cause.

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                • cts50
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 557

                  #9
                  Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                  Auto fielding. Auto baserunning.

                  The game is 100% better that way. There is no skill involved in those plays anyway. They are routine plays. Might as well allow the CPU to do it for you, and just sit back to enjoy the graphics, smooth gameplay.

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                  • DarthRambo
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6630

                    #10
                    Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                    I play with those on auto

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                    • KBLover
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 12172

                      #11
                      Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                      Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                      What do you have fielder reaction at? I have it at 6 and feel good about it.
                      I have that low as well - 3.

                      Same reason as lowering outfield speed - some zones on the infield are hard for the average guy to get to - and if he does, it's going to be a tough play.

                      Like with the triples - good infielders are still a thing. Solano's 81 reaction at SS has taken away hits. When Taylor was healthy, he got to just about everything not smoked through the right side of the infield (87 reaction, 85 speed). Now that he's out, Davis tries to cut stuff off, and sometimes has to make effort plays if he's do it at all (60's reaction but sky high fielding).

                      Campos/Hechavarria, Taylor's replacements at 2B, are both decent but some plays they can't make reliably.

                      I use auto fielding so it's all ratings/fielding AI - which means it applies to the CPU's fielding as well just the same.

                      BTW, had a game where Carlos Santana hit two triples and Carl Crawford stretched a double into a triple.
                      Last edited by KBLover; 06-12-2015, 12:20 AM.
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                      • DarthRambo
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6630

                        #12
                        Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                        Originally posted by KBLover
                        I have that low as well - 3.

                        Same reason as lowering outfield speed - some zones on the infield are hard for the average guy to get to - and if he does, it's going to be a tough play.

                        Like with the triples - good infielders are still a thing. Solano's 81 reaction at SS has taken away hits. When Taylor was healthy, he got to just about everything not smoked through the right side of the infield (87 reaction, 85 speed). Now that he's out, Davis tries to cut stuff off, and sometimes has to make effort plays if he's do it at all (60's reaction but sky high fielding).

                        Campos/Hechavarria, Taylor's replacements at 2B, are both decent but some plays they can't make reliably.

                        I use auto fielding so it's all ratings/fielding AI - which means it applies to the CPU's fielding as well just the same.

                        BTW, had a game where Carlos Santana hit two triples and Carl Crawford stretched a double into a triple.




                        Okay thanks! I'm loving the new settings for my sliders. Fielding has always been such a pain on this game and hard to nail down with sliders. Did you ever decide on BR speed? I just went straight to setting it at 1 and see no problems. I hit a ball over Lorenzo Cain's head for a triple with Michael Brantley. the only triple I've seen thus far with the new settings.


                        I'll be changing fielder reaction down to 3 as well. I just don't want to see a ton of hits however where it becomes unrealistic. Indians already have a very good offense on this game imo.
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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #13
                          Re: Too many triples, not enough doubles problem

                          Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                          Okay thanks! I'm loving the new settings for my sliders. Fielding has always been such a pain on this game and hard to nail down with sliders. Did you ever decide on BR speed? I just went straight to setting it at 1 and see no problems. I hit a ball over Lorenzo Cain's head for a triple with Michael Brantley. the only triple I've seen thus far with the new settings.


                          I'll be changing fielder reaction down to 3 as well. I just don't want to see a ton of hits however where it becomes unrealistic. Indians already have a very good offense on this game imo.

                          So far I'm still staying on 1 for BR Speed. If I see Crawford with triples and an average speed guy like Santana get 2 on perfectly placed hits in a big park, then I think it's fine.

                          Especially when Yelich didn't get one (70 speed) so it's not just speed, but hit placement and defense. That sounds kosher to me.
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