Pitch consistency vs. pitch accuracy.

[Gagnon39]

I'm curious to get some thoughts on these two sliders. I've been making some tweaks to them for both me and the CPU but in doing so I have a few things I'm just not sure about.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but pitch consistency has to do more with missing your spots, throwing wild pitches, hitting batters, etc. But if that's the case what's the difference between that and pitch accuracy? It seems like having decreased accuracy would do the same thing (make you miss spots, hit batters, etc.).

Also, it seems that, in a really round-about way, that decreasing pitch consistency might actually decrease walks. This is probably not the case but I've noticed that often times when you really "miss your spot," while pitching, it simply means that you leave a meatball right over the heart of the plate. For example: When you're trying to throw a slider low and away using a right handed pitcher to a right handed batter and you really miss your spot it is often hung over the heart of the plate. What I'd like to see happen is for the ball to be way outside and not even close to a strike, resulting in more balls, wild pitches, etc.

Maybe this is the case and as I do every year, I'm trying to avoid a case of slideritis. Once I start tweaking sliders it seems like it never ends. However, I'm trying to find a way for me to issue some walks and draw more myself and obviously these two sliders play key roles in that.

[KBLover]

Re: Pitch consistency vs. pitch accuracy.

IMO:

Control = Did you hit your spot? Did the pitch do what it is supposed to do? I think of it as mechanical accuracy. Repeatable delivery, consistent arm slot, proper snap/pronation, etc. Maybe you got it snap but not quite as much as it needed to to come back over the corner, etc.

Consistency = How bad did you screw up? If you meant to throw it out of the zone, did it end up down the middle or way off for an easy take? If you meant to pound the knees, did it dip a bit too low or end up just above the knees or did it end up near the letters? I think of this as accuracy rating. Can you make the pitch dance and end up right at the center of the mitt? If not, how far off do you tend to be?

They also interact with the BB/9 and Pitch Control rating (i.e. the control rating on each pitch) and the Strike Frequency (how often the CPU wants to just pound the zone vs induce chases.

[BegBy]

Re: Pitch consistency vs. pitch accuracy.

I find with pulse pitching, legend, both pitch sliders at zero I am still laser accurate. I agree that if I do miss with a pitch it typically just hangs right over the middle. It's been like this for years.

Just tonight I tried classic pitching and I threw more balls, some being way, way out of the strike zone. I threw more balls and wild pitches in one game than my last three games. In said three games I didn't ever throw a ball way outside. Pulse pitching definitely needs love. Again having both sliders at zero on legend should honestly make pitching a very sketchy endeavour, but currently I can throw laser guided darts. I'd be shocked if I threw ten balls a game if I legitimately tried to throw all strikes.

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[Bobhead]

Re: Pitch consistency vs. pitch accuracy.

Also, it seems that, in a really round-about way, that decreasing pitch consistency might actually decrease walks. This is probably not the case but I've noticed that often times when you really "miss your spot," while pitching, it simply means that you leave a meatball right over the heart of the plate.

I've been thinking about this for a while now, going back to early last year. It's not something I've had a chance to test but I can't help but think you are correct, especially with Analog Pitching, which is the only thing I use

In my experience, while Pitch Control primarily affects fine-tune accuracy (eg: missing by centimeters), Pitch Consistency affects broad accuracy (missing by inches/feet).

As you described, I see the majority of these "broad misses" missing directly over the plate, and very rarely do they miss in the dirt, or way high, or way off to the side.

So again, I can't say for sure you're theory is correct, but I've had the same theory. At least as far as Analog Pitching is concerned, Pitch Consistency seems to be counter-intuitive, as far as walks are concerned.

[KBLover]

Re: Pitch consistency vs. pitch accuracy.

I don't know "interface" the CPU uses, but lower control with higher consistency seems to make them give more out of the zone misses than grooved pitches.

If I go low with consistency, I get more WP and down the middle and little middle ground.