Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

If it is set to manual, wont I have to manage every teams roster? All I really want to accomplish is the cpu putting a RP in the starting rotation, things like that. I can go fix it. I don't want to decide who plays and who sits and so forth. I want 30 different managers/GM's, not 1. I just want to fix dumb errors. Other then that, I want the cpu teams to do what they do.

No.....by setting lineups to manual you take the initial time to go into each teams lineups and set them up properly.

Then as injuries occur, you will get a notification that their lineups are not valid, you then decide which player will fill in for the injured player.

If you want to have lineups, pitching rotations, and injury management to work properly without issues you have to put in a little work (and it takes literally 2 minutes to fix a team).

Believe me it is not that hard. When I get notifications for minor league teams....I let the CPU auto fix them.....I then browse around the league and make sure lineups look right.

Once you get into a rhythm and system it runs smooth and with not much time needed to keep your league clean.

It is worth the effort.

I saw a horrible trade too the other day....Josh1977 was watching the stream and we were both like WTF LOL.....reversed it right away.

30 team control is awesome and not much work if you just control lineups and play trade czar to reverse horrible CPU trade logic from time to time.

I have only reversed 2 trades thus far and i am in June. It is not as bad as people make it out to be....but there are some doozy trades for sure each season that make zero sense, short term or long term.

[forme95]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

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I saw a horrible trade too the other day....Josh1977 was watching the stream and we were both like WTF LOL.....reversed it right away.

30 team control is awesome and not much work if you just control lineups and play trade czar to reverse horrible CPU trade logic from time to time.

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I literally just finished watching your last stream, where you did the above mentioned. Very good point to why 30 team. I am understanding it more, the more I view your streams. Thanks yet again for your help Armor. You make this game so much fun and understanding with your knowledge.

[jake44np]

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Armor, it is funny that you mention you must be playing a different game than some people on here. I read a lot of these post on this forum and people complaining about this game and I just am not seeing what they are.
Just like people complaining about too many injuries.
I am not seeing enough injuries. I am 80 games into my Reds Franchise.
I have had one regular (Mesoraco) injured and that is it. One of my staring pitchers has been listed as day to day twice now. But that is it, no other injuries at all.

[audbal]

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Armor...if you feel HOF is unrealistic for human hitting, citing your examples, wouldn't it be the same for the CPU hitting on HOF? Just wondering.

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[Armor and Sword]

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Armor...if you feel HOF is unrealistic for human hitting, citing your examples, wouldn't it be the same for the CPU hitting on HOF? Just wondering.

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Nope.....they are not one in the same. And I never used the word unrealistic. It did not feel right at all for me. And using directional hitting above All-Star is extremely tough sledding and you really have no control over it because your PCI is smaller. It is not IMO the right level for directional hitting users. Unless of course you want to get really frustrated and not have fun.


The best thing to do is try things out for yourself and make your own conclusions. If it feels right and you are getting what you want out of the game at Legend....by all means you should be playing on Legend difficulty.

My Zen on MLBTS17 is All-Star hitting and HOF Pitching.

[audbal]

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Cool, thanks. I love all your input.

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[The Chef]

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Armor, it is funny that you mention you must be playing a different game than some people on here. I read a lot of these post on this forum and people complaining about this game and I just am not seeing what they are.
Just like people complaining about too many injuries.
I am not seeing enough injuries. I am 80 games into my Reds Franchise.
I have had one regular (Mesoraco) injured and that is it. One of my staring pitchers has been listed as day to day twice now. But that is it, no other injuries at all.

I wish I could say the same lol, the injuries are gonna turn a playoff contender into a seller at the deadline at this rate. It is what it is, knowing others aren't having issues means I'm just having dumb luck so I'll live with it.

[belikemike14]

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Nope.....they are not one in the same. And I never used the word unrealistic. It did not feel right at all for me. And using directional hitting above All-Star is extremely tough sledding and you really have no control over it because your PCI is smaller. It is not IMO the right level for directional hitting users. Unless of course you want to get really frustrated and not have fun.


The best thing to do is try things out for yourself and make your own conclusions. If it feels right and you are getting what you want out of the game at Legend....by all means you should be playing on Legend difficulty.

My Zen on MLBTS17 is All-Star hitting and HOF Pitching.

Where can I find your hitting sliders for people using all star? Unless I'm missing something the sliders on the op are for hall of fame right?

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[BleacherCreature]

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Where can I find your hitting sliders for people using all star? Unless I'm missing something the sliders on the op are for hall of fame right?

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These hitting sliders are for All-star.


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[livinitup921]

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Any recommendations for stealing bases? My players get horrible jumps every time. I wait for good counts to run on and anything but even with villar, they never get a good jump and I get thrown out 80% of the time..i can't adjust the sliders cuz the sliders work for the computer but not for me.

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[The Chef]

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Any recommendations for stealing bases? My players get horrible jumps every time. I wait for good counts to run on and anything but even with villar, they never get a good jump and I get thrown out 80% of the time..i can't adjust the sliders cuz the sliders work for the computer but not for me.

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I have similar issues stealing bases because they get pretty bad jumps. I work counts and try to run when it makes sense but if you watch the runners window you'll notice the runner rarely if ever seems to take off on first movement from the SP and instead takes off damn near on the leg kick which is way too late. I've been thrown out with ease trying to steal with Dyson who is 98 speed, 99 steal on offspeed pitches because he simply doesn't get even a decent jump.

Last game I did the hold L2 and release when I want him to go and managed to time it so well that Leonys Martin stole second and was at the bag before the throw even got there lmao. Martin has 80 speed so I was rather shocked he got there so easily. Having said that I tried that later in that same game with Dyson and released too early and was caught in a run down so it's for sure more risk:reward then simply tapping L2 and hoping they get a good jump on their own.

[Armor and Sword]

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Ok a few things:



Stealing - This year pre loaded jumps are not good and almost a sure out 80% of the time. After over 120 games played between all my files......it is very evident that this year you have to hold L2 and release right when you see first movement of a right handed pitchers front leg. And stealing against a lefty? Really tough this year (as it should be most of the time).

Count and situation are very important as well. Player quirks, the catcher you are facing, the pitchers motion to home.....everything about it oozes baseball. So if you want to steal bases.....get ready to work for it. But I don’t recommend using the simple pre-load steal method like in years past. Have I taken one extra step on leads? Yes sometimes I have. My steal success has gone way up since manually stealing.


Errors - We are testing all errors at 7 now and so far so good. We are seeing an uptick and if all goes well we should have a slider update this weekend after more testing.


Injuries - I am now playing with injuries on 9 during games I play and 7 when simulating games. This is being tested and will also be part of a potential slider update if the testing goes well.


Stay tuned.

[wcu25rs]

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I know what you mean I put Infield Errors to 8 and its works better ! But to many bad throws in the dirt also they will not end up in errors, but i deal with that for my franchise stats.

For fielder speed i really recommand 0 with baserunning speed at 5. Thats the only way you will see some 3B base hits without a missed jump in the outfield and more hits in deep center field over the fielder

It's amazing how different these play for everybody. Alot of people see good hit variety on what is in the OP. I on the other hand only had to knock reaction down one notch to open up hitting, whereas you went to 0 to see realistic results. The randomness is one reason I went to zone with this set. I feel I get more reward from working the count and sitting on a pitch. With directional, even working counts and waiting on my pitch, most of the time it led to very weak contact on squared up balls.

I think some people get so enamored with thinking they have to stay with the exact slider set of the OP just because many other people are seeing good results. Experiences vary. Nothing wrong with making a few minor tweaks.

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[The Chef]

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Ok a few things:



Stealing - This year pre loaded jumps are not good and almost a sure out 80% of the time. After over 120 games played between all my files......it is very evident that this year you have to hold L2 and release right when you see first movement of a right handed pitchers front leg. And stealing against a lefty? Really tough this year (as it should be most of the time).

Count and situation are very important as well. Player quirks, the catcher you are facing, the pitchers motion to home.....everything about it oozes baseball. So if you want to steal bases.....get ready to work for it. But I don’t recommend using the simple pre-load steal method like in years past. Have I taken one extra step on leads? Yes sometimes I have. My steal success has gone way up since manually stealing.


Errors - We are testing all errors at 7 now and so far so good. We are seeing an uptick and if all goes well we should have a slider update this weekend after more testing.


Injuries - I am now playing with injuries on 9 during games I play and 7 when simulating games. This is being tested and will also be part of a potential slider update if the testing goes well.


Stay tuned.

I've actually grown to prefer manual stealing, adds a certain strategic element that can't be found when simply pressing L2 and letting the game do it for you.

As for errors, I see them more as the season progresses but the scoring on the plays isn't accurate. Last game is a perfect example, a groundball was hit to Lawrie at 2B, very much routine, and he simply booted it and the runner was safe but they scored it a hit when it should have easily been an error.

[VincesVictims]

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It's amazing how different these play for everybody. Alot of people see good hit variety on what is in the OP. I on the other hand only had to knock reaction down one notch to open up hitting, whereas you went to 0 to see realistic results. The randomness is one reason I went to zone with this set. I feel I get more reward from working the count and sitting on a pitch. With directional, even working counts and waiting on my pitch, most of the time it led to very weak contact on squared up balls.

I think some people get so enamored with thinking they have to stay with the exact slider set of the OP just because many other people are seeing good results. Experiences vary. Nothing wrong with making a few minor tweaks.

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I think the problem is that everyone changes things after 5 or 10 games and you can't do that. I have played everyone of my 90 plus games with these sliders and I don't see half the problems people are having. Yes I have struggled hitting but than i break out of it. Pitching for me is perfect on all-star so there was no need to change that. This games has so many streaks just like in real life that if you continue to change the sliders you won't be able to enjoy just playing the best baseball game we have ever been able to play.

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