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  • BleacherCreature
    MVP
    • Apr 2007
    • 3160

    #1336
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Originally posted by The Chef
    By the way, stealing has become extremely frustrating since the switch, now Jarrod Dyson and his 98 speed and 99 steal ratings can't even steal off of a 86mph slider outside. I don't expect to steal everytime but since the change I've gone 1/4 in steals and it isn't like I'm being dumb about it and hoping for the best. Before the switch I was 15/19 only running with Dyson, Martin and Segura and since, like I said, 1/4. How are others steal numbers looking?


    I'm 5-7 stealing but I've been picked off 4 times. I find that more frustrating than being caught stealing.


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    • The Chef
      Moderator
      • Sep 2003
      • 13684

      #1337
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      Originally posted by BleacherCreature
      I'm 5-7 stealing but I've been picked off 4 times. I find that more frustrating than being caught stealing.


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      I haven't been picked off in forever but I am growing tired of watching Dyson and his 98 speed getting thrown out with ease meanwhile the CPU is able to swipe them at ease with guys slower off of fastballs. Maybe its just a funk, I know Dyson was a little fatigued going into that last game so that might have played into that one but he's 8/12 on the season so he's been thrown out a couple times when it made zero sense.
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      • TheBleedingRed21
        Game Dev
        • Oct 2010
        • 5071

        #1338
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Stealing is impossible almost.

        I've swiped a few. But Betts is always way late on stealing and always out by a mile.

        I don't know what we can do to get it right.
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        • The Chef
          Moderator
          • Sep 2003
          • 13684

          #1339
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
          Stealing is impossible almost.

          I've swiped a few. But Betts is always way late on stealing and always out by a mile.

          I don't know what we can do to get it right.
          Well we had the steal success slider at 7 up until a few days ago and with it at 7 I was stealing almost with ease, almost too easy in fact. Now with it at 6 I'm being thrown out with ease lol, not sure what can be done other then hope it was Lucroy having a great series throwing out my runners and the next guy won't.
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          • Gagnon39
            Windy City Sports Fan
            • Mar 2003
            • 8544

            #1340
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            It was said quite a few pages back, but I think the best solution to any issue of too many home runs is really only solved by playing on Hall of Fame difficulty.


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            • mer1in20
              Rookie
              • Sep 2006
              • 238

              #1341
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by tonyfire2001
              Reading all these post everyone is talking about hitting a ton of home runs and then some are not hitting enough double...for me it the complete opposite, I know small sample size, through 6 games as the Rockies I've only hit 2 home runs and leading the league in doubles with 15...am I doing some thing wrong here?

              All my sliders match the OP and I'm not seeing it so far, maybe as I continue through the month of April I'll see more power but right now I'm seeing ton of singles and perfect amount of doubles.

              Sitting here thinking about it, the only thing I don't do is swing influence I just hit X or [emoji978] depending on the count and who's up rarely hit O unless it a speedster that is lite hitting then I try to use his speed.


              Im with you man although i also have a small sample size. Im playing with Boston and ive played 3 games. Ive hit maybe 4 homers (all in one game)and have 8-9 doubles. Im not seeing a problem yet. Maybe its playing in fenway? Not sure but im seeing some good line shots, gappers, off the wall, etc for doubles.


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              Last edited by mer1in20; 05-08-2017, 01:26 AM.

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              • mer1in20
                Rookie
                • Sep 2006
                • 238

                #1342
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Double post






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                Last edited by mer1in20; 05-08-2017, 01:25 AM.

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                • wcu25rs
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 250

                  #1343
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  For you guys not seeing enough doubles or hit variety(I was experiencing the same thing), bump fielder reaction down to 3. It's the only tweak I've made but it opened hitting up for me. I've got 20-30 Chise games and a slew of RTTS games for a sample. At least in my experience, once I did this, I started seeing balls get down and in the gap at a more realistic rate. Also the never ending stream of Top 10 plays by SS and 3B was cut to a realistic level. They still happen but balls that should get through, get through at a more realistic rate.

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                  • KingsDream
                    Rookie
                    • May 2013
                    • 177

                    #1344
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Hello Armor and guys. First off,thanks for the great set here. I write the same post every year,so I'm going to write it again. I'm going to start just a 1 yr. Franchise with the Mets. My plan is to play 1 game,sim 10 games,play 1,sim 10.... Basically I will be playing about 15-games or so as I don't have much playing time . ( wifey,work ) . I'm going to use the OP set. I remember last yr I used this set but the only change I made was HUM Timing @ 6 . That seemed to work great for me ....as I'm a decent hitter,just no free time to play. Anyway, has anyone tried Timing @ 6 this year ? It cut down a little bit on my strikeouts last year. I also don't want a HUM advantage for myself. Should I up Timing or Contact up 1 ? Or both up 1 ? Any feedback or insite would be appreciated !! Thanks in advace

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                    • BleacherCreature
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 3160

                      #1345
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Originally posted by KingsDream
                      Hello Armor and guys. First off,thanks for the great set here. I write the same post every year,so I'm going to write it again. I'm going to start just a 1 yr. Franchise with the Mets. My plan is to play 1 game,sim 10 games,play 1,sim 10.... Basically I will be playing about 15-games or so as I don't have much playing time . ( wifey,work ) . I'm going to use the OP set. I remember last yr I used this set but the only change I made was HUM Timing @ 6 . That seemed to work great for me ....as I'm a decent hitter,just no free time to play. Anyway, has anyone tried Timing @ 6 this year ? It cut down a little bit on my strikeouts last year. I also don't want a HUM advantage for myself. Should I up Timing or Contact up 1 ? Or both up 1 ? Any feedback or insite would be appreciated !! Thanks in advace


                      I use timing at 6 and it plays perfectly for me.


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                      • The Chef
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 13684

                        #1346
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        I'm gonna stream another game, this one with CPU pitching sliders at 5-5-5 and wind back at default. I have a hard time believing wind is causing the HR issue, with it at 3 I still hit 7 HR's in 3 games and that was without Nelson Cruz as you all know. Sliders are identical to Armor's minus the 5-5-5 setup vs his 4-5-3, as always link is in my sig.
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                        • KingsDream
                          Rookie
                          • May 2013
                          • 177

                          #1347
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                          I use timing at 6 and it plays perfectly for me.


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                          Ok thanks for the response. I may stick with timing at 6 as well.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21792

                            #1348
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                            Stealing is impossible almost.

                            I've swiped a few. But Betts is always way late on stealing and always out by a mile.

                            I don't know what we can do to get it right.
                            Originally posted by The Chef
                            Well we had the steal success slider at 7 up until a few days ago and with it at 7 I was stealing almost with ease, almost too easy in fact. Now with it at 6 I'm being thrown out with ease lol, not sure what can be done other then hope it was Lucroy having a great series throwing out my runners and the next guy won't.

                            I found my perfect balance with runner speed at 4 and steal success at 6

                            Also another tweak I have made and is now posted on the OP is CPU pickoff at default 5 (down 1 from 6)


                            Version 4.2 is now official.



                            Base stealing is a new animal on 17, speed and steal ratings really matter, who is the catcher? What pitch did you steal on? You really need to have everything right (stealing on the right count with the right pitch thrown vs what catcher, vs what kind of pitcher with a pick-off artist perk? base stealer Thief perk?) to steal consistently with top base swipers as well as very good ones. Average base stealers will not steal with regularity like in years past.

                            The pick-off artist perk was OP with anything above default on CPU pickoff IMO. Took a huge sample size for me to get this right.

                            The Thief perk for base runners was too OP with success at 7

                            It's not a gimme. To me it is more sim than ever before. It is not a 3 foot putt anymore even with good base stealers.

                            These tweaks are prefect for me.

                            Good luck to the rest of you.....this slider set is done. No changes will be made moving forward.

                            We are all set for the remainder of this cycle barring any drastic gameplay patch (which I seriously doubt will happen).
                            Last edited by Armor and Sword; 05-08-2017, 02:11 PM.
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                            • Lil Worm
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1314

                              #1349
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                              I found my perfect balance with runner speed at 4 and steal success at 6

                              Also another tweak I have made and is now posted on the OP is CPU pickoff at default 5 (down 1 from 6)


                              Version 4.2 is now official.










                              Base stealing is a new animal on 17, speed and steal ratings really matter, who is the catcher? What pitch did you steal on? You really need to have everything right (stealing on the right count with the right pitch thrown vs what catcher, vs what kind of pitcher with a pick-off artist perk? base stealer Thief perk?) to steal consistently with top base swipers as well as very good ones. Average base stealers will not steal with regularity like in years past.

                              The pick-off artist perk was OP with anything above default on CPU pickoff IMO. Took a huge sample size for me to get this right.

                              The Thief perk for base runners was too OP with success at 7

                              It's not a gimme. To me it is more sim than ever before. It is not a 3 foot putt anymore even with good base stealers.

                              These tweaks are prefect for me.

                              Good luck to the rest of you.....this slider set is done. No changes will be made moving forward.

                              We are all set for the remainder of this cycle barring any drastic gameplay patch (which I seriously doubt will happen).
                              I would like to chime in on the base stealing with the updated runner speed and steal success. If anyone out there is like me, and uses auto base running I really see no reason in making the changes on the pickoff slider. A&S you have this game really shining with this set. I was having a damn blast with it right out of the box, but with the last few adjustments that have been made after the latest patch it is about as perfect of a game that anyone could ask for. There will never be a perfect videogame, but when we can get this damn close to perfect no one should be complaining, but instead loving the experience we are getting. I will not venture back out into the main forum anymore I just pop in to see what is going on in this thread.

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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21792

                                #1350
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Lil Worm
                                I would like to chime in on the base stealing with the updated runner speed and steal success. If anyone out there is like me, and uses auto base running I really see no reason in making the changes on the pickoff slider. A&S you have this game really shining with this set. I was having a damn blast with it right out of the box, but with the last few adjustments that have been made after the latest patch it is about as perfect of a game that anyone could ask for. There will never be a perfect videogame, but when we can get this damn close to perfect no one should be complaining, but instead loving the experience we are getting. I will not venture back out into the main forum anymore I just pop in to see what is going on in this thread.

                                Well said Lil Worm. I still venture in the general forum to see if I can get some nuggets of good info from mature OS'ers who seek to help each other make the gaming experience better for each other. There are some great suggestions and idea's that do pop up as long as you can filter and wade through the noise. I also love the trade thread that is pinned.

                                There is still a lot of good here at OS and just learning who to read is key. I may not be (nor expect to be) everyone's cup of tea, but I try to help those that want it and share the way I approach and play sports games (In particular The Show and Madden).

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