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  • FenwayMac
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 825

    #226
    Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

    Curious case on walks...

    I work really hard to draw walks and not be on the bottom of the league each year. I am really killing it this season, but yet am still in the bottom third of the league.

    I have not averaged out the entire league but i did average a few for comparison:

    My pirates walks per game avg: 3.09
    Actual MLB leader (Cincy) walks per game avg: 3.91
    My season leader (Angels) walks per game: 4.61!

    It will be interesting to compare stats at season’s end, but as of now the CPU is drawing walks at an unheard of rate. I will carve out some time to get a league avg to compare the the real teams.

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    • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
      MVP
      • Jun 2016
      • 1354

      #227
      Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

      Originally posted by FenwayMac
      Curious case on walks...

      I work really hard to draw walks and not be on the bottom of the league each year. I am really killing it this season, but yet am still in the bottom third of the league.

      I have not averaged out the entire league but i did average a few for comparison:

      My pirates walks per game avg: 3.09
      Actual MLB leader (Cincy) walks per game avg: 3.91
      My season leader (Angels) walks per game: 4.61!

      It will be interesting to compare stats at season’s end, but as of now the CPU is drawing walks at an unheard of rate. I will carve out some time to get a league avg to compare the the real teams.
      I have league average walk data too, compared to MLB. I also have team leader, and last place to compare. I will wait until you post yours. I will say that your league leader is very comparable to my league leader at this point.

      Your team's walk rate is fine (especially compared to the real Pirates lol)

      Mine is also approximately 3 per game.

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      • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
        MVP
        • Jun 2016
        • 1354

        #228
        Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

        Tough game. Geez. The first two plays of the game were a Strikeout in the dirt, but Chirinos threw it into RF. Next batter hits a perfect double play ball to the First Baseman, and he threw it into left field lol. So as a result, they scored 2 runs early, i answered right back with 2, then i took the lead in the 3rd. Then, after 4 scoreless frames, they took the lead by one run in the 8th. But Choo tied it right back up with a 2 out HR in the bottom of the 8th.

        In the 9th we led off the inning with back to back walks, so i had the winning run in scoring position. A fly ball out and a hard line-out (nearly a double play) made it two outs with the winning run at 2nd. With 2 outs, Odor slapped a single into RF and im sending the winning run home, even though i knew it would be close. A perfect throw gets him at the plate. Going to extras...

        My bullpen retired 6 in a row in the 9th and 10th. Speedster Deshields gets on base with one out. After 2 outs he finally swipes second. Then Beltre gets behind in the count 0-2 and works it back to 2-2, then gets a pitch he can handle and hits a beautiful line drive to centerfield for the walkoff RBI.

        We have won 5 of our last 8 and are 6-4 in out last 10. This rest day couldn't have come soon enough.

        OAK- 4R 12H 0E 11LOB
        TEX- 5R 9H 3E 5LOB
        Attached Files

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        • Rmiok222
          MVP
          • Nov 2015
          • 3129

          #229
          FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

          I’m at the gym now so I’ll tell you stats when I get home. But I’m drawing walks at a crazy rate. I’ve had multiple innings where I’ve drawn 3-4 walks. I noticed once the cpu draws back to back his confidence is wrecked and he just has a total meltdown. I know I’m 10th in average. Edwin and Lindor both have OBPs over .400 with averages under .300. I’ll give you more detailed stats when I play today. A few games ago I played the twins and in the first inning berrios walked me 5 times in a row to start the game.


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          • FenwayMac
            Pro
            • Mar 2009
            • 825

            #230
            Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

            Reached 60 games last night. A well-played win over the Dodgers to begin a short 3-game homestand before back on the road against the hated Cubs.

            It’s time for me to break down my numbers vs real MLB, but the first thing I want to address is the drop of CPU contact down to 2 from 3.

            For the first 43 games at contact 3, the CPU was hitting .264, which put them right up there with real-deal Boston (who is NOW up to .270)

            Over the last 17 games I have dropped CPU contact to 2, and the result is a CPU BA of .259. This puts the CPU right around top-5 with real MLB.

            You might expect this drop to be more significant, but I have played some pretty decent teams over this stretch and also you have to accept that Legend difficulty plays a role in how the CPU performs. I expect this will continue to drop a bit as I get out of this tough stretch of opponents. I will feel pretty good if this average settles between the .250-.260 range.

            What does feel night and day is how the games play. One of the reasons for this change was the ridiculous strings of rallies by the CPU. These will still happen, but (for the most part*) I feel like I stand a better chance of working out of jams with smart play instead. It’s hard to sum up other than everything just feels even BETTER than before the switch.

            I am sticking at 2. I don’t feel that a new version is in order (I am not really a version guy), but I will post my latest changes on the first post at some point today.

            If you have not had a chance, please take a moment to go to the vault and rate if you are enjoying the sliders (or also if not). We are working our way up the board thanks to all of your feedback!

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            • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
              MVP
              • Jun 2016
              • 1354

              #231
              Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

              We put 5 on the board in the first inning vs the Jays, added 2 more in the 2nd, and 3 more in the third, cruising our way to any easy victory. Felt good for my offense to come alive for a change. We had not scored more than 2 runs in any inning in 7 games. (And only two 2-run innings). We needed that.

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              • xxvshawn
                Rookie
                • May 2017
                • 18

                #232
                Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                Hi guys, I'm just curious if anyone knows how these sliders would transfer over to dynamic difficulty. I'm a new player to the show and don't think I want to start out on legend. Thanks everyone.

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                • FenwayMac
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 825

                  #233
                  Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                  Originally posted by xxvshawn
                  Hi guys, I'm just curious if anyone knows how these sliders would transfer over to dynamic difficulty. I'm a new player to the show and don't think I want to start out on legend. Thanks everyone.
                  Hey shawn. No, you do not want to start out on Legend . Dynamic is designed to adapt the game to whatever your skill level is over time, so regardless of which slider set you use, it will modify as you go. These are more designed to be locked in with dynamic turned off ( or set to neutral). Hope this helps!

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                  • xxvshawn
                    Rookie
                    • May 2017
                    • 18

                    #234
                    Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                    Originally posted by FenwayMac
                    Hey shawn. No, you do not want to start out on Legend . Dynamic is designed to adapt the game to whatever your skill level is over time, so regardless of which slider set you use, it will modify as you go. These are more designed to be locked in with dynamic turned off ( or set to neutral). Hope this helps!
                    So theoretically I could use these (or some variation) with dynamic difficulty and they still would prob be ok? I'm more interested in just trying to get realistic games with regards to amts of errors, HRs, Ks, etc. Right now it seems like I'm much better at pitching (usually in the All-Star or All-Star plus difficulty as opposed to hitting (usually in Rookie or Rookie plus)

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                    • xxvshawn
                      Rookie
                      • May 2017
                      • 18

                      #235
                      Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                      I think basically what I'm looking for is some type of way to make the game realistic while playing on dynamic. As you said dynamic does some of the adjusting on its own, but i Know there is stuff that I can still control with the sliders. For example starter and reliever stamina... I assume even with dynamic if I turn this up to 10 the starters will tire less quickly or down to zero much quicker?

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                      • FenwayMac
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 825

                        #236
                        Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                        Originally posted by xxvshawn
                        I think basically what I'm looking for is some type of way to make the game realistic while playing on dynamic. As you said dynamic does some of the adjusting on its own, but i Know there is stuff that I can still control with the sliders. For example starter and reliever stamina... I assume even with dynamic if I turn this up to 10 the starters will tire less quickly or down to zero much quicker?
                        Yeah, that is probably true. I would say that the hitting sliders would probably be the most susceptible where sliders like stamina, errors, fielder speed, arm strength...all of those would probably stay right where they are.

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                        • FenwayMac
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 825

                          #237
                          Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                          Hey all, here are the 60-game stats and thoughts for my Pirates season. Let me know if you have any questions!

                          Batting Average

                          My Pirates: .231
                          MLB Pirates: .252
                          MLB Average: .247

                          I think a major theme with a lot of my stats comes down to my batting average. In my defense, I am hitting .248 over the last 20, which is not the greatest, but is also not the worst. The combination of going through a horrible slump, changing a hitting camera, switching to a gaming monitor, and having a middle-tier team has been a challenge for sure, but I am starting to swing better and I have gone up 11 points in the last month.


                          Hit Types (difference MLB Pirates, Difference MLB Average)

                          1B: 62.6% (-2.4%, -1.6%)
                          2B 19.8% (-0.3%, -0.5%)
                          3B: 3.2% (-0.2%,+1.3%)
                          HR: 14.4% (+2.4%, +0.9%)

                          This is an interesting situation. Normally if your singles are running a bit low, all of your extra base hits are boosted up. In this instance only the Home runs are somewhat out of range, while the 2b and 3b hits are really close enough for me. i do not believe there is really a safe option to exchange home runs for singles. Lowering power would affect everything. MAYBE solid hits a tick, but honestly, I feel that if I just were to get more hits in general, then a good portion of those would raise up my singles on their own. i will keep an eye on this, but overall these feel good.

                          Home Runs Per Game

                          My Pirates: 1.12
                          MLB Pirates: 1.02
                          MLB Average: 1.14

                          Backing up my hit percentages, even though I hit a few percentage points higher on home runs, I am right at league average of just over one a game. This is great as I think it is more exciting to have runs come from other scoring methods (currently only 35% of my runs come from HR's).

                          Walks Per Game

                          My Pirates: 3.05
                          MLB Pirates: 3.09
                          MLB Average: 3.29

                          Throw another bullseye here as I am right at real-life rate, and somewhat close to MLB average. I don't know why the numbers are so inflated in the game, but as long as I am not LAST in the league, then that is a major step forward in my hitting discipline (I am 22nd and on the move!)

                          Strikeouts per game

                          My Pirates: 8.63
                          MLB Pirates: 7.59
                          MLB Average: 8.52

                          I seem to strike out...a lot. so it was heartening to see that so do the real MLB players. I am just about on par with real-life, although much higher than the actual pirates. Honestly though, between years of never drawing enough walks and never striking out being my biggest slider challenges, I am thrilled that these are not only occurring, but also matching real league rates. This is a win.

                          Hits per game

                          My Pirates: 7.75
                          MLB Pirates: 8.52
                          MLB Average: 8.46

                          So yeah, I could use some more hits, but again I would rather see this than an average of 9+. I can always work harder to hit better, it is much harder to hit worse!

                          Runs Per Game

                          My Pirates: 4.13
                          MLB Pirates: 4.45
                          MLB Average: 4.44

                          A little on the low side, but I am actually at 5.3 over the last 20, so making up some ground each game.

                          Errors per game

                          My Pirates: 0.62
                          MLB Pirates: 0.62
                          MLB Average: 0.57

                          Bullseye! It's never fun to get a couple crappy errors each game, but at least it is realistic I guess.

                          OVERALL: This has been an enjoyable challenge. I feel especially good about the games since the CPU contact drop and will continue to work on both the big and little things as needed. It's pretty tough jumping up to Legend with a team like Pittsburgh that needs a little more star power, but it is also a blast working every day to help get them moving up the ladder. Calling up pitchers, signing free agents, firing hitting coaches. I know it is going to take everything to even get this team to the playoffs, so it is rewarding when I can put together solid performances.

                          Keep swinging and thanks for all of the great dialogue and posting your stats. It would seem we are moving in the right direction.

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                          • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 1354

                            #238
                            Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                            Originally posted by FenwayMac
                            Hey all, here are the 60-game stats and thoughts for my Pirates season. Let me know if you have any questions!

                            Batting Average

                            My Pirates: .231
                            MLB Pirates: .252
                            MLB Average: .247

                            I think a major theme with a lot of my stats comes down to my batting average. In my defense, I am hitting .248 over the last 20, which is not the greatest, but is also not the worst. The combination of going through a horrible slump, changing a hitting camera, switching to a gaming monitor, and having a middle-tier team has been a challenge for sure, but I am starting to swing better and I have gone up 11 points in the last month.


                            Hit Types (difference MLB Pirates, Difference MLB Average)

                            1B: 62.6% (-2.4%, -1.6%)
                            2B 19.8% (-0.3%, -0.5%)
                            3B: 3.2% (-0.2%,+1.3%)
                            HR: 14.4% (+2.4%, +0.9%)

                            This is an interesting situation. Normally if your singles are running a bit low, all of your extra base hits are boosted up. In this instance only the Home runs are somewhat out of range, while the 2b and 3b hits are really close enough for me. i do not believe there is really a safe option to exchange home runs for singles. Lowering power would affect everything. MAYBE solid hits a tick, but honestly, I feel that if I just were to get more hits in general, then a good portion of those would raise up my singles on their own. i will keep an eye on this, but overall these feel good.

                            Home Runs Per Game

                            My Pirates: 1.12
                            MLB Pirates: 1.02
                            MLB Average: 1.14

                            Backing up my hit percentages, even though I hit a few percentage points higher on home runs, I am right at league average of just over one a game. This is great as I think it is more exciting to have runs come from other scoring methods (currently only 35% of my runs come from HR's).

                            Walks Per Game

                            My Pirates: 3.05
                            MLB Pirates: 3.09
                            MLB Average: 3.29

                            Throw another bullseye here as I am right at real-life rate, and somewhat close to MLB average. I don't know why the numbers are so inflated in the game, but as long as I am not LAST in the league, then that is a major step forward in my hitting discipline (I am 22nd and on the move!)

                            Strikeouts per game

                            My Pirates: 8.63
                            MLB Pirates: 7.59
                            MLB Average: 8.52

                            I seem to strike out...a lot. so it was heartening to see that so do the real MLB players. I am just about on par with real-life, although much higher than the actual pirates. Honestly though, between years of never drawing enough walks and never striking out being my biggest slider challenges, I am thrilled that these are not only occurring, but also matching real league rates. This is a win.

                            Hits per game

                            My Pirates: 7.75
                            MLB Pirates: 8.52
                            MLB Average: 8.46

                            So yeah, I could use some more hits, but again I would rather see this than an average of 9+. I can always work harder to hit better, it is much harder to hit worse!

                            Runs Per Game

                            My Pirates: 4.13
                            MLB Pirates: 4.45
                            MLB Average: 4.44

                            A little on the low side, but I am actually at 5.3 over the last 20, so making up some ground each game.

                            Errors per game

                            My Pirates: 0.62
                            MLB Pirates: 0.62
                            MLB Average: 0.57

                            Bullseye! It's never fun to get a couple crappy errors each game, but at least it is realistic I guess.

                            OVERALL: This has been an enjoyable challenge. I feel especially good about the games since the CPU contact drop and will continue to work on both the big and little things as needed. It's pretty tough jumping up to Legend with a team like Pittsburgh that needs a little more star power, but it is also a blast working every day to help get them moving up the ladder. Calling up pitchers, signing free agents, firing hitting coaches. I know it is going to take everything to even get this team to the playoffs, so it is rewarding when I can put together solid performances.

                            Keep swinging and thanks for all of the great dialogue and posting your stats. It would seem we are moving in the right direction.
                            Looking great! Between your results and mine i can say that, especially on the offensive side, this is the best i have ever seen the Show, and the closest to real-life MLB type numbers across the board. Loving it.

                            I haven't played 60 games in my "main" franchise, but i am coming up on 30 games, and i will post my results. I am still at a point where two or three extreme games in a certain area can effect percentages, so i am not worried about exact numbers, as i am still seeing slight high/low fluctuation around those numbers. This is to be expected at this point in the season.

                            I just lost game 2 to the Jays after jumping out to an early lead. I just couldn't contain their power this game. Hoping to play the rubber match tonight and hopefully win back-to-back series' for the first time this season!

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                            • KBLover
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 12172

                              #239
                              Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                              Originally posted by FenwayMac
                              Hit Types (difference MLB Pirates, Difference MLB Average)

                              1B: 62.6% (-2.4%, -1.6%)
                              2B 19.8% (-0.3%, -0.5%)
                              3B: 3.2% (-0.2%,+1.3%)
                              HR: 14.4% (+2.4%, +0.9%)

                              This is an interesting situation. Normally if your singles are running a bit low, all of your extra base hits are boosted up. In this instance only the Home runs are somewhat out of range, while the 2b and 3b hits are really close enough for me. i do not believe there is really a safe option to exchange home runs for singles.

                              Batted ball profile?

                              The Show seems to lean fly ball heavy, especially in recent iterations. Solid Hits used to be where you could go for that as it really was the LD% slider. You could raise that to help that single vs HR balance. You'd lower HR while flyouts become hits in front of OF more often.

                              Now, I agree, there's no safe option. Only thing I can think of is find a way to hit more grounders. Grounders tend to be singles (sometimes doubles) and are almost never HR (only possibility would be an in-the-park HR).

                              It might be part of your BA being low since fly balls are the lowest BABIP batted ball type. Grounders are more frequently hits.

                              Barring that - not a lot you can do via sliders.
                              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                              • KBLover
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 12172

                                #240
                                Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                                Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                                Speaking of line drives, KB, what are you seeing as far as batting average on line drives? Assuming you are keeping up with that...
                                Currently, I'm at .714 (vs .682 MLB in 2017)

                                LD% is at 21% (vs 20.3% in MLB in 2017)
                                "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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