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  • FenwayMac
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 825

    #16
    Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

    Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
    Just curious on what you see with CPU foul frequency a at 6 (? if my memory serves me). I can see that they are fouling about 17%, but what else do you see cpu foul frequency doing besides increasing the overall foul %?

    Do you think there is any difference to balls hit into fair territory using this? I have had CPU foul frequency pretty low, and thinkong about raising it closer to where yours is.
    I set mine at 6 simply because I could not get the percentages even near 15-20% at the lower setting. I don’t believe it has really affected a ton of liner hits. I think I like it because it helps create some deep counts to work the pitch counts up.

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    • FenwayMac
      Pro
      • Mar 2009
      • 825

      #17
      Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

      Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
      Hearing more and more people with similar reports. I personally would rather play a lesser version 18, than one that keeps getting better, and better, and better at the expense of consistency. Maybe after these updates end, it will be easier to nail down a good consistent set to get a true measure on stats.
      I need a few more games to really get a idea how I feel about the patch. I have to say the hit variety continues to improve with all of the patch work. Definitely noticeable and the sqaiared Up hits how they just move a bit differently. I am OK with this as long as it spreads the hit types around. Not just more moon shots. We already went through that last year.

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      • FenwayMac
        Pro
        • Mar 2009
        • 825

        #18
        Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

        A couple more games in the spreadsheet. I got to ally boat raced in game one and then lost closely contested battle to Chicago in the second.

        First couple games with the new PCI system. Definitely noticed some more quality hits if i squares up. I am a little wary of how this will affect stats in the long run, but not ready to make a judgement just yet.

        A few hits of note...a Rodriguez triple that smashed the runner in the wall in center. A Freese double over the head of the left fielder, and a Cervelli 3-run shot. This from a guy that has not hit for extra bases all year.

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        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
          MVP
          • Jun 2016
          • 1354

          #19
          Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

          Originally posted by FenwayMac
          A couple more games in the spreadsheet. I got to ally boat raced in game one and then lost closely contested battle to Chicago in the second.
          Sweet. Man i want to ally boat race! I've been asking for them to add ally boat racing to the game for years. I guess they finally did it!

          Im going to move CPU foul frequency to 6 also. Im not really sure why its so low anyway. I think the original idea may have been to lower babip. Im going to bump it up, thanks.

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          • FenwayMac
            Pro
            • Mar 2009
            • 825

            #20
            Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

            It’s worth a shot. You will see that the BABIP is generally hovering around .300. I am not a huge fan of that metric anyways, but the kids seem to love it. As long as the foul ball rates stay in an appropriate range, and it helps drive decent pitch counts I am good with it. It was about 5% low before tweaking and was actually pushing BABIP the other direction.

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            • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
              MVP
              • Jun 2016
              • 1354

              #21
              Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

              Originally posted by FenwayMac
              It’s worth a shot. You will see that the BABIP is generally hovering around .300. I am not a huge fan of that metric anyways, but the kids seem to love it. As long as the foul ball rates stay in an appropriate range, and it helps drive decent pitch counts I am good with it. It was about 5% low before tweaking and was actually pushing BABIP the other direction.
              ok cool. Yeah CPU is about 5% low on mine so definitely moving it up to 6. I for one really like babip because it simply lets me know the fielders arent making more outs than they should, percentage-wise. As long as hit type percentages still line up with that im usually happy.

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              • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                MVP
                • Jun 2016
                • 1354

                #22
                Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                Out of all the stats i track, one thing (for some odd reason) ive never tracked is injuries. This may have been discussed in your other thread, so forgive me if that is the case, but do you track injuries for frequency and/or DL time? I have had injuries at 8 for a while, and injuries dont seem too frequent so far. (I have had 2 on my team. One happened simming Spring, and then Elvis Andrus mildly sprained his knee running the bases. Both on DL.) But it could be that im just not paying well enough attention to other teams. Curious to what you are getting at 6?

                I hate when my players get injured, but i enjoy making roster moves and changing strategy to get through it.

                Starting tonight i am going to start a spreadsheet to track them (at 8 for now, but willing to move it to 6 if need be) in my newest Franchise. I am only 5 games into the season on that one, and i consider it my "Official" franchise now, so it is plenty early enough to strart keeping track. Time for another spreadheet!

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                • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1354

                  #23
                  Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                  To continue hijacking this thread lol.. Fenway have you ever considered the adjustment some make where you put Offspeed Pitch Speed one click above Fastball Pitch Speed?

                  I have never tried this, but i think you mentioned your swing and miss rate was a little high. Mine is too, but not too bad. It would be nice to see it drop a bit though. And my strikeouts are on point so i am hesitant to do it in my main franchise.

                  The reason i ask this, is i track my Early Swing misses and Late Swing misses. And 69% of my misses in one franchise are on early swings. I really dont know how that compares to MLB (or how to find out) but it seems high. I know you dont track that but i wonder if your misses seem to be the same way.

                  I thought if offspeed pitches were a click faster, it might drop that a bit. I dont want it to it if it affects K's much. I would rather keep the big stats at the expense of the less significant ones. Have you ever adjusted or tried that?

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                  • FenwayMac
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 825

                    #24
                    Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                    Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                    To continue hijacking this thread lol.. Fenway have you ever considered the adjustment some make where you put Offspeed Pitch Speed one click above Fastball Pitch Speed?

                    I have never tried this, but i think you mentioned your swing and miss rate was a little high. Mine is too, but not too bad. It would be nice to see it drop a bit though. And my strikeouts are on point so i am hesitant to do it in my main franchise.

                    The reason i ask this, is i track my Early Swing misses and Late Swing misses. And 69% of my misses in one franchise are on early swings. I really dont know how that compares to MLB (or how to find out) but it seems high. I know you dont track that but i wonder if your misses seem to be the same way.

                    I thought if offspeed pitches were a click faster, it might drop that a bit. I dont want it to it if it affects K's much. I would rather keep the big stats at the expense of the less significant ones. Have you ever adjusted or tried that?
                    Don't worry about hijacking the thread. I love talking baseball in general, so everything is welcome.

                    I have found that my hitting has struggled overall since patch 1.10 and the wider range of the PCI. I do think it is a good addition to hitting, but since I am not your typical Legendary Legend hitter, I have had to re-evaluate my whole hitting approach.

                    I do find that lately that offspeed pitches are really getting to me and I am early or way over the top of. If I do make contact on the pitch and am early, the PCI is adjusting high and I am grounding out a lot. I really like how the sliders are playing right now (and so does the CPU it seems), so maybe a click up would help. I may just have to give that a try!

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                    • FenwayMac
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 825

                      #25
                      Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                      Thanks to everybody who has downloaded and given my legend sliders a go. They seem to be pretty well received, which is nice to see that my time spent was not in vain! Keep on testing, rating, and providing me feedback and I will keep working to add your suggestions to future versions.

                      Patch 1.11 is certainly interesting. I am slumping a bit hitting at the moment, but have noticed a bit more pop to my average hitters like Harrison and Cervelli. I normally could not could on much more than a single from them at any given time.

                      For the CPU I have mixed thoughts. I think the main concern is that with the extra velocity on squared hits, and my fielders reacting and running at 2, you REALLY have to be on your fielding or there will be many more triples in your future. My advice is to get on that ball and hit the cutoff man as quickly as possible to prevent this. I don't really want to up to 3 at this point, but it's something to be aware of.

                      The part I like though is that the computer is even more-so a threat at the plate now because of the pop, so you have even more reason to work the edges now, and the result of this should be more walks and chasing K's.

                      I'll get some more games in today, but I think the biggest takeaway of my games so far post-patch is that I really hate the Cubs.

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                      • GWPump23
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 361

                        #26
                        Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                        REALLY enjoying the dynamic spreadsheet...

                        -GW-
                        "Never go short in the land of plenty..."

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                        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1354

                          #27
                          Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                          Originally posted by GWPump23
                          REALLY enjoying the dynamic spreadsheet...

                          -GW-
                          Me too! i find myself checking it a lot to see if new games have been played. It is much appreciated

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                          • FenwayMac
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 825

                            #28
                            Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                            I got in a game with Miami last night and placed the stats.

                            I am a little bewildered by the PCI lately and wonder if I should turn it off completely. When I look at my results they are rarely where I think they should be. Is timing more sensitive now to change? I know that early or late will raise or lower the PCI, but there are times when I am much farther to the right than I thought. I have also be hitting hard groundouts a lot and pop ups a lot. What has everybody else experienced?

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                            • FenwayMac
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 825

                              #29
                              Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                              Originally posted by FenwayMac
                              I got in a game with Miami last night and placed the stats.

                              I am a little bewildered by the PCI lately and wonder if I should turn it off completely. When I look at my results they are rarely where I think they should be. Is timing more sensitive now to change? I know that early or late will raise or lower the PCI, but there are times when I am much farther to the right than I thought. I have also be hitting hard groundouts a lot and pop ups a lot. What has everybody else experienced?
                              Quote myself here. I believe that (for myself only) I need to raise up the timing a notch. I would be nearly right in the ball, maybe a little left or right on occasion, if not for how the timing affects the vertical of the PCI. I cannot seem to mentally adjust the split second difference so forcing the hand with a slider bump.

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                              • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 1354

                                #30
                                Re: FenwayMac 2018 Legend Sliders

                                Originally posted by FenwayMac
                                I got in a game with Miami last night and placed the stats.

                                I am a little bewildered by the PCI lately and wonder if I should turn it off completely. When I look at my results they are rarely where I think they should be. Is timing more sensitive now to change? I know that early or late will raise or lower the PCI, but there are times when I am much farther to the right than I thought. I have also be hitting hard groundouts a lot and pop ups a lot. What has everybody else experienced?

                                I dont think turning off the PCI will change anything as far as that goes.

                                I dont use the PCI (i used it so much in the past that i can still 'see' it) but i do use the feedback, which i think is important to look at. In real life, players have a good idea of exactly where the ball hit the bat, and will even use the mark on the bat to know exactly what happened. The feedback is our version of that.

                                I dont know exactly what could be going on with the PCI on yours. I did notice some funky things right after release, but one of the early patches must have fixed it. It did feel more sensitive as far as the up/down movement for early/late swings, but it doesnt seem as exaggerated to me now. I also noticed, and i believe even posted about it, left/right movement right after release, which seems to have gone away with some patch.

                                (I cannot speak for the latest patches, so whether it re-introduced some odd PCI movement that seemed to be fixed before, i dont know. I suppose since they did change the PCI a couple of times, it is possible they could have adjusted how it moves as well?)

                                I think timing up one wouldnt be too bad. It might give you the extra pop to increase your doubles output. My only concern would be increasing your Home Run rate too much, but given you are only at one per game, it could help that too.

                                The thing about your stats, is you are only missing one hit per game to getting close to where the real life pirates are. The other odd thing about your stats is all of those 13 extra hits need to be doubles. If you had one more double per game your hit type percentages would be approximately 1B 62%, 2B 21%, 3B 4%, HR 12%.

                                Of course we are talking about a very small sample size of 13 games, so things are likely to change anyway. But since we are mainly talking about the PCI i think timing up one may help.

                                Another option would be to lower both pitch speeds to 4. I think that could help as well.

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