TheWarmWind's Impact Sliders 2020

[TheWarmWind]

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I am trying to get the AI to better handle the bullpen. I think 21 is better. But I’m not sure how much they are using the pitcher in the SU #2 slot. So I been trying to remove that if they have room in the MR spots. What would happen if you put their weakest pitcher in the LR #2 spot?

I’m thinking the weakest pitcher will be used for games that are out of hand.

I'm not really sure I have knowledge on that, but I'd actually try putting their worst pitcher in LR #1 based on the behaviour I've seen.

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[bryanm1982]

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I'm not really sure I have knowledge on that, but I'd actually try putting their worst pitcher in LR #1 based on the behaviour I've seen.

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Scratch that. I was playing the Brewers and I put Lindbolm in the LR1 spot. They used him in the 6th inning with a 2 run lead. Next game I put one of their rookie RP in the LR1 spot and they used him in the 6th inning with a 3 run lead. Not sure why they are using the LR guy to bridge the gap to the 7th inning.

The first game, Lindbolm who has a 65 stamina went 2 innings and then they used Williams in the 8th.

The 2nd game, the rookie had a stamina of 24 so he only went one inning. Used a MRP for the 7th and Williams in the 8th.

I don’t remember the AI using a LR guy with a lead after the 5th inning in 20.

[TheWarmWind]

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Scratch that. I was playing the Brewers and I put Lindbolm in the LR1 spot. They used him in the 6th inning with a 2 run lead. Next game I put one of their rookie RP in the LR1 spot and they used him in the 6th inning with a 3 run lead. Not sure why they are using the LR guy to bridge the gap to the 7th inning.

The first game, Lindbolm who has a 65 stamina went 2 innings and then they used Williams in the 8th.

The 2nd game, the rookie had a stamina of 24 so he only went one inning. Used a MRP for the 7th and Williams in the 8th.

I don’t remember the AI using a LR guy with a lead after the 5th inning in 20.

Are you using my stamina fix?

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[bryanm1982]

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Are you using my stamina fix?

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Yes, I am. Sorry, forgot to mention that.

I don’t know if only having one set up person is making the AI panic and wanting to use the LR to get them to the 7th or 8th.

[TheWarmWind]

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Yes, I am. Sorry, forgot to mention that.

I don’t know if only having one set up person is making the AI panic and wanting to use the LR to get them to the 7th or 8th.

Yeah I can't say what's causing the behaviour you describe, and without hands on 21, I can't really test it. Sorry, wish I could be of more help. I'll think on it a while, see if I can figure out a logic string that might be causing it, but I make no promises.

[knich1]

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Yes, I am. Sorry, forgot to mention that.

I don’t know if only having one set up person is making the AI panic and wanting to use the LR to get them to the 7th or 8th.

Have you tried using 2 SUs in 21?

[knich1]

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Yeah I can't say what's causing the behaviour you describe, and without hands on 21, I can't really test it. Sorry, wish I could be of more help. I'll think on it a while, see if I can figure out a logic string that might be causing it, but I make no promises.

I note you are using equal speed for FB and CH speeds, but others have suggested CH be one click slower regardless of the speed. I would tend to think you would want equal speeds but not sure rationale for lower CH speed..do you know?

[TheWarmWind]

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I note you are using equal speed for FB and CH speeds, but others have suggested CH be one click slower regardless of the speed. I would tend to think you would want equal speeds but not sure rationale for lower CH speed..do you know?

Most of the other slider makers believe there is not enough of a velocity delta between fastballs and offspeed pitches.

I tried it before way back in 16 or 15, and I came to the conclusion that the issues people saw had more to do with the timing, contact, and foul frequency sliders than pitch velocities.

I'm not going to tell you they were wrong and I was right, the time dilation effects of this game can cause some wonky behaviour, and I truly believe there are no wrong answers here. Each approach to sliders will likely make to game better for someone.

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[TheWarmWind]

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Small update: learning what pitcher consistency actually did has changed a lot. Turns out a few of the issues that I used other sliders to adjust actually stemmed from the pitcher consistency slider.

As such, I almost had to rebuild sliders from the ground up. I've opted for an "on the fly" adjustment, which means my sliders are in a state of flux right now. I've had 3 different slider sets for the past 5 games I've played. As such it'll take a long while for me to produce the long term results I require in order to have confidence in a slider set.

I'll post a "this is my slider set today" if anyone asks, otherwise I'll keep hacking away at producing results until I have a set I'm confident to call V8.

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[TheWarmWind]

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V8 up in the OP and the vault.

[TheWarmWind]

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Some notes on V8. There is still a slight with this slider set. Bat exit velocity ceilings are still too low (real life power hitters reach the 110 to 115 range) however raising power raises bat exit velocity averages far too much. In fact bat exit velocity averages are still too high in V8, but I have no other means to bring them down on my current HoF/Legend setup.

I've tested a HoF/HoF set, and it works, however I find the pulse on that difficulty level too easy to deal with. If you want to play that set, it's really easy. Just match CPU hitting to human hitting, then match human pitching to CPU pitching. This allows you to turn consistency up, lowering averages, however I've tried both consistencies at 10 and power at 6 and the single tick of power is still too much. The ceiling is at a great spot, but it pulls averages way too high. I could potentially solve the problem by once again lowering contact, but that's a path I was unwilling to pursue during my last phase of testing because it would require a litany of other changes too.

Get this though: The too high velocities are actually kept in check by the games cartoonishly low temperatures. So yeah, the ceiling is too low and averages are too high under ideal conditions, but the conditions are rarely ideal, keeping overall stats in check. I hate it but it works.

In the long run I may have to abandon my HoF/Legend set, since it's no longer possible to make changes and maintain CPU/human parity (which is very important to me). In the 30ish games I've played on it, I haven't noticed anything wrong beyond what I can't control. H/9 vs Contact, K/9 vs Vision, and HR/9 vs power all behave like I'd expect them to while still allowing for the occasional game where a bad pitcher dominates a good hitting team or a bad hitting team dominates a good pitcher. The matchup to the feel of fielding compare to real life baseball is also in a very satisfying place. The only setting I'm not confident on is the basestealing one. It takes more results than I currently have in order to figure out the balance.

[The Kid 24]

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Curious, has anyone plugged WW's sliders into 21?

[northmen24]

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Curious, has anyone plugged WW's sliders into 21?

I am also curious. I’ve been using knucklecutters almost exclusively. But open to trying new things.

[TheWarmWind]

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Curious, has anyone plugged WW's sliders into 21?

Just an FYI on that front, there is a V9 coming in soon. I'm pretty confident in them too, I've been playing the playoffs with them so I'm facing higher quality teams as opposed to teams I should be crushing (even though I don't want to).

Don't know if I've mentioned it before, but team disparity is a massive problem in my carry over (where I spend most of my time). There are a handful of monster teams going around kicking the pants off everyone else.

It's trending in the right direction, talent is starting to spread, and will continue to do so this offseason, but it's still a problem for now.

Makes it hard to properly judge sliders sometimes. I want close scoring, competitive games, but a lot of these games should be laughers. Seriously there are MLB teams I'm convinced my Bisons could beat.

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[northmen24]

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Just an FYI on that front, there is a V9 coming in soon. I'm pretty confident in them too, I've been playing the playoffs with them so I'm facing higher quality teams as opposed to teams I should be crushing (even though I don't want to).

Don't know if I've mentioned it before, but team disparity is a massive problem in my carry over (where I spend most of my time). There are a handful of monster teams going around kicking the pants off everyone else.

It's trending in the right direction, talent is starting to spread, and will continue to do so this offseason, but it's still a problem for now.

Makes it hard to properly judge sliders sometimes. I want close scoring, competitive games, but a lot of these games should be laughers. Seriously there are MLB teams I'm convinced my Bisons could beat.

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When do you think you’ll be ready to release V9. I am about ready to start a franchise with V8 and 1,000 hours no injuries roster