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  • DarthRambo
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 6630

    #1

    Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

    Is this possible in this game? My stats look good other than strikeouts due to the severe lack of swing and misses on the game. Too many weak grounders and pop ups. Not enough swing and misses like we see irl, therefore I am dead last by a lot in strikeouts as a team.

    My only thought is vision attributes are extremely too high still. Using Cy's roster so been edited already so...

    I tried to lower contact to zero for both teams last game and still only saw a few swing and misses. Very rarely does a player, user or AI swing and miss unless it's outside the strikezone.

    Any one have a solution or is this one of those legacy issue deals? I want wayyyyy more strikeouts, especially swing and misses. But I don't want to see all the weak contact on top of that, therefore the entire offense takes a dump.

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  • knucklecutter
    Pro
    • Mar 2020
    • 608

    #2
    Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

    I'm seeing plenty of swings and misses from both myself and the cpu.
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    • DarthRambo
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 6630

      #3
      Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

      What is your team ranking in strikeouts for and against? I'm only a month in my season but enough to see being over 30 strikeouts less than the 2nd to last team is an issue. And as a team I'm tied for 1st in least amount of times struck out.

      Stats are fine, hits homeruns, era, runs scored. Just low strikeout numbers due to rare swing and misses from my prospective. I just get the bad feeling there isn't much I can do without sacrificing offensive stats.

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      • knucklecutter
        Pro
        • Mar 2020
        • 608

        #4
        Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

        I've played 23 franchise games so far. I have my own slider set which I'm sure you're aware of, but basically I play classic / directional on HOF with max pitch speeds.



        Getting struck out



        The Indians are in 1st with 134, the Red Sox are in 17th with 174 and the Braves (ME) are in 30th with 234. I have trouble picking up the low ball and I swing at way too many of them but it's not exactly easy on HOF with max pitch speeds, and some of my players are off to a slow start and have the snowflake icon.



        Striking them out


        The Angles are in 1st with 215, the Braves (ME) are in a 2 way tie for 19th with 169 and the Tigers are in 30th with 148.
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        • canes21
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 22909

          #5
          Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

          Originally posted by knucklecutter
          I've played 23 franchise games so far. I have my own slider set which I'm sure you're aware of, but basically I play classic / directional on HOF with max pitch speeds.



          Getting struck out



          The Indians are in 1st with 134, the Red Sox are in 17th with 174 and the Braves (ME) are in 30th with 234. I have trouble picking up the low ball and I swing at way too many of them but it's not exactly easy on HOF with max pitch speeds, and some of my players are off to a slow start and have the snowflake icon.



          Striking them out


          The Angles are in 1st with 215, the Braves (ME) are in a 2 way tie for 19th with 169 and the Tigers are in 30th with 148.
          Your stats are practically the same as mine with the Braves also. I use Zone on Legend, though. I don't have pitch speeds maxed like I usually do. What's funny is on maxed out pitch speeds my eye and discipline is infinitely better. I can spit on a lot of great pitches, but I can't react with the zone in time half of the time, so I have to keep my pitch speeds down. The issue with me is on lower pitch speeds the ball doesn't look as natural so I am swinging at junk that I would easily take on max pitch speeds.

          I could go back to Directional with max pitch speeds, but I am enjoying zone right now. I am dead last in K's when hitting with around 450 while the next worst team is around 380. Then pitching I am middle of the pack, but the Braves aren't stacked with strikeout pitchers.
          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


          ― Plato

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          • DarthRambo
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 6630

            #6
            Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

            Originally posted by knucklecutter
            I've played 23 franchise games so far. I have my own slider set which I'm sure you're aware of, but basically I play classic / directional on HOF with max pitch speeds.



            Getting struck out



            The Indians are in 1st with 134, the Red Sox are in 17th with 174 and the Braves (ME) are in 30th with 234. I have trouble picking up the low ball and I swing at way too many of them but it's not exactly easy on HOF with max pitch speeds, and some of my players are off to a slow start and have the snowflake icon.



            Striking them out


            The Angles are in 1st with 215, the Braves (ME) are in a 2 way tie for 19th with 169 and the Tigers are in 30th with 148.
            Yeah for sure looked at everyone's sliders in here lol. Your stats are pretty solid! I play Legend for pitching and use classic as well. Maybe lowering to HOF would help. I assume so. But I don't want to completely dominate in pitching nearly every game either.

            Raising pitch speeds would actually probably be best way to increase strikeouts for me. I just use default 5 and I am way late still plenty of times I think. If I used 10 I would strike out way too much. At 5 I'm still only tied for 1st in least strikeouts, so not far off from being middle of the pack. Old man reflexes I guess. I will raise it to 6 for sure though!

            Does raising pitch speed effect the AI timing at all? I would love it if so but I doubt it.

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            • canes21
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 22909

              #7
              Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

              Originally posted by IrishSalsa
              Yeah for sure looked at everyone's sliders in here lol. Your stats are pretty solid! I play Legend for pitching and use classic as well. Maybe lowering to HOF would help. I assume so. But I don't want to completely dominate in pitching nearly every game either.

              Raising pitch speeds would actually probably be best way to increase strikeouts for me. I just use default 5 and I am way late still plenty of times I think. If I used 10 I would strike out way too much. At 5 I'm still only tied for 1st in least strikeouts, so not far off from being middle of the pack. Old man reflexes I guess. I will raise it to 6 for sure though!

              Does raising pitch speed effect the AI timing at all? I would love it if so but I doubt it.

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              It doesn't impact their timing at all. It also doesn't impact anything else like the stealing success rate. I know in the past people have wondered that.
              “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


              ― Plato

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              • pantherfan076
                Rookie
                • Nov 2011
                • 325

                #8
                Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

                Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                Is this possible in this game? My stats look good other than strikeouts due to the severe lack of swing and misses on the game. Too many weak grounders and pop ups. Not enough swing and misses like we see irl, therefore I am dead last by a lot in strikeouts as a team.

                My only thought is vision attributes are extremely too high still. Using Cy's roster so been edited already so...

                I tried to lower contact to zero for both teams last game and still only saw a few swing and misses. Very rarely does a player, user or AI swing and miss unless it's outside the strikezone.

                Any one have a solution or is this one of those legacy issue deals? I want wayyyyy more strikeouts, especially swing and misses. But I don't want to see all the weak contact on top of that, therefore the entire offense takes a dump.

                Sent from my SM-G996U using Operation Sports mobile app
                Using mine: as REAL as IT gets! I now see plenty. I had to adjust because it was to much for me at times where my SP 4 or 5 were getting 9+ Ks and I could never get out of the assist celler. Now I got them where my ace does what he does but Dallas gets his groundballs finally!

                The main thing is foul frequency. This has to be low on the sliders because of the ridiculous outer ring. I recently saw a ball fouled off where the CPU swing didn't even have the ball in the outer zone?
                Last edited by pantherfan076; 06-13-2021, 02:04 PM.

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                • DarthRambo
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6630

                  #9
                  Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

                  Originally posted by pantherfan076
                  Using mine: as REAL as IT gets! I now see plenty. I had to adjust because it was to much for me at times where my SP 4 or 5 were getting 9+ Ks and I could never get out of the assist celler. Now I got them where my ace does what he does but Dallas gets his groundballs finally!

                  The main thing is foul frequency. This has to be low on the sliders because of the ridiculous outer ring. I recently saw a ball fouled off where the CPU swing didn't even have the ball in the outer zone?
                  Foul frequency...so that increases or decreases that outer PCI ring then? I didn't know that. If that's the case then that would be the easiest and most logical fix to increases swings and misses. I thought about lowering it but the way it reads to me is likelihood of a ball landing fair vs foul.

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                  • kamackeris76
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1656

                    #10
                    Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

                    I'm sat 11th for strike outs thrown, 16th for base on balls allowed, I'm last by 2 for strikeouts and I'm 6th for walks by my team.

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                    • pantherfan076
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 325

                      #11
                      Re: Able to get swings and misses without effecting overall offensive production?

                      Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                      Foul frequency...so that increases or decreases that outer PCI ring then? I didn't know that. If that's the case then that would be the easiest and most logical fix to increases swings and misses. I thought about lowering it but the way it reads to me is likelihood of a ball landing fair vs foul.

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                      I believe that is tied to it as well as contact. Lowering the contact I thought shrunk the circle but I believe that is tied to the level. All-Star is smaller then Veteran and bigger the HOF

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