Something to keep in mind

[ctguy2021]

I don't have the link to the post anymore here on OS, and if course you can't search, but I remember someone posted that he did extensive research and testing on trying to get the stats to come as close to MLB stats last year as possible.

Long story short, the set of sliders that performed the most realistically were all default settings except base runner speed was all the way to 10.

I'll try to find the post. I know each year may be different as SDS does tweak variables, but it was an interesting, eye opening read.

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[DonkeyJote]

Re: Something to keep in mind

I don't have the link to the post anymore here on OS, and if course you can't search, but I remember someone posted that he did extensive research and testing on trying to get the stats to come as close to MLB stats last year as possible.

Long story short, the set of sliders that performed the most realistically were all default settings except base runner speed was all the way to 10.

I'll try to find the post. I know each year may be different as SDS does tweak variables, but it was an interesting, eye opening read.

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Lol. Even at default, baserunners move WAY faster than they do irl. I can't imagine speeding it up even more.

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[ctguy2021]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Lol. Even at default, baserunners move WAY faster than they do irl. I can't imagine speeding it up even more.

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Like I said, it may not hold true for this year's game, and there may be a disconnect between the visual aspect and how it affects stats.

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[DonkeyJote]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Like I said, it may not hold true for this year's game, and there may be a disconnect between the visual aspect and how it affects stats.

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Even last year, runners were way too fast. Guys that should be going HP to 1B in 4.3 seconds are getting there in under 4. The fastest players, who should be around 4, were closer to 3.5. It's a huge reason bunt hits are so crazy.

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[canes21]

Re: Something to keep in mind

If I played an entire season, all 162, every pitch, at default settings, I could easily provide a test that shows default settings don't produce realistic stats.

There are too many different factors that come in to play for default settings or any one set of sliders to produce consistent gameplay for all users on OS or that play the game. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa.

That said, I cannot imagine playing with any set in the past that has baserunner speed at 10. It would look so ridiculous, lol. It may have worked for that individual, but I'll continue lowering it to match real life times and tune my sliders around that.

[ctguy2021]

Re: Something to keep in mind

All I can tell you is that for last year's game..or 20...I forget, the guy posted specific stats and % as compared to MLB and that's what he found came closest to MLB averages. I'll try to find the post.

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[ctguy2021]

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He used Bacons fictional roster set. Interesting read.

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[DonkeyJote]

Re: Something to keep in mind

All I can tell you is that for last year's game..or 20...I forget, the guy posted specific stats and % as compared to MLB and that's what he found came closest to MLB averages. I'll try to find the post.

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I'd have to see it. I can tell you straight up, if I'm using default sliders on legend Pinpoint in 21, I'm getting under 1 bb/9 (I started the year using default, and the stats being so ridiculous is what made be start looking at sliders)

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[breadcrumbtrail]

Re: Something to keep in mind

"CPU vs CPU"

[DonkeyJote]

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He used Bacons fictional roster set. Interesting read.

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Alright, so he's using a fictional roster set, and doing CPU vs CPU. You can see how using actual rosters and a human player is going to completely change those results, right?

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[Doyoueven85]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Alright, so he's using a fictional roster set, and doing CPU vs CPU. You can see how using actual rosters and a human player is going to completely change those results, right?

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He was also simulating those games

[ctguy2021]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Alright, so he's using a fictional roster set, and doing CPU vs CPU. You can see how using actual rosters and a human player is going to completely change those results, right?

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Yes, to a certain degree. I'd think you'd want a slider set to start as a base where the cpu performs as realistically as possible, then tweak where needed based on your abilities. Some people may have to tweak hitting, others pitching, etc. But the running speed at 10 is what caught my eye. I think it implies that guys are rated too low for speed...at least in that roster set he used. The fact that he simulated vs watching the games play out is important too. But since everything else was at default, not sure how critical that was.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Before this year base stealing stats were really low in sims. My assumption is he was trying fix that? That problem has been resolved this year. In fact now in a simmed season the stolen base numbers are way too high so it's now the opposite problem lol

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[ctguy2021]

Re: Something to keep in mind

Before this year base stealing stats were really low in sims. My assumption is he was trying fix that? That problem has been resolved this year. In fact now in a simmed season the stolen base numbers are way too high so it's now the opposite problem lol

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Yeah could be that's what he was after. But I was also surprised how well the stats held up on default in sim for that roster file. I do think he may have been chasing stolen bases and runs scored.

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