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  • forme95
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3118

    #16
    Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

    Originally posted by mjonny
    LOVE MoM. Wish we could play MoM online Head-to-Head.

    One issue: I have noticed that the PITCHOUT strategy does not work. When I call for a pitchout, it does not happen; My pitcher throws a regular pitch, and usually a fastball down the middle.

    I submitted it in the "Bugs and Glitches" thread. Anyone else experiencing this?
    I have not noticed, but its only because I dont ever call for a pitchout. Its not used in todays baseball, so I dont use it. CPU will though, but not as much as they use to. Try calling a high outside pitch instead.
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    • saucerset
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 482

      #17
      Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

      Originally posted by mjonny
      LOVE MoM. Wish we could play MoM online Head-to-Head.

      One issue: I have noticed that the PITCHOUT strategy does not work. When I call for a pitchout, it does not happen; My pitcher throws a regular pitch, and usually a fastball down the middle.

      I submitted it in the "Bugs and Glitches" thread. Anyone else experiencing this?
      Yes, I had the same issue as well and I also submitted a bug report.

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      • saucerset
        Rookie
        • Jul 2010
        • 482

        #18
        Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

        Do you all make a selection for every pitch or just hit 'play ball' unless you want to pitch around or a special pitch (high and in, ect..)?

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        • forme95
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 3118

          #19
          Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

          Originally posted by saucerset
          Do you all make a selection for every pitch or just hit 'play ball' unless you want to pitch around or a special pitch (high and in, ect..)?
          I let the 4 seconds lapse and the pitcher pitches. I never call for a pitch/location. Change pitcher, IBB, throw over. That is about all my pitcher interaction.
          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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          • forme95
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3118

            #20
            Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

            Need to find a solution for pitches per inning. That's the only issue I am seeing that I'd want to fix. These 20+ pitch innings and then the traditional "bad" inning of 40+ pitches is the killer.
            HBP/WP needs toning down as well.
            Last edited by forme95; 04-08-2023, 09:03 AM.
            Really wish sports games played to ratings!
            Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
            CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
            MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
            Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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            • forme95
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3118

              #21
              Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

              Testing Power 4 and FF 3.
              Pros, it does seem to bring pitch count down.
              Con, Strike outs up and double plays up with BB down.

              I am getting another inning or 2 from the starters which I like. It's putting them through the 6th and some into the 7th.
              Last edited by forme95; 04-08-2023, 03:04 PM.
              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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              • MikeyBoy02NY02
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 141

                #22
                Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                I’m a huge simulation/managing player so I’m going to give these a try today
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                • tgreer
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 565

                  #23
                  Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                  I play MoM but also let the CPU vs CPU game play out every game my team isn't in (no simming or QC I run it on Fast Play takes about 1 hour). Love seeing all of the players stats play out on the field for each team. Here are the stats through 108 games (basically one week of the season)

                  Show Stats vs (MLB real stats avg last 2 years)

                  Everything Default except the 4 Error Sliders at 8, BR Steal Ability 7, and BR Steal Frequency 7. These have always been too low in MoM games on Default so I started out with them this way like I have in the past and it looks decent (except SB will be up this year with the closer bases)

                  AB 33.82 (33.48)
                  R 4.94 (4.41)
                  H 8.52 (8.15)
                  E 0.38 (0.54)
                  2B 1.93 (1.63)
                  3B 0.15 (0.14)
                  HR 1.02 (1.15)
                  BB 4.27 (3.16)
                  K 8.93 (8.54)
                  SB 0.46 (0.49)
                  CS 0.18 (0.16)
                  GIDP 0.85 (0.70)
                  HBP 0.67 (0.43)
                  AVG .252 (.244)
                  OBP .347 (.315)
                  ERA 4.75 (4.11)
                  WHIP 1.44 (1.28)

                  Walks are the only thing that stands out a little but I love the way this game plays so I am afraid to DL the latest patch in fear it could mess things up. Offense is more up to par with how 2023 is playing out in real life right now with 4.71 runs being scored per game and team avg at .249 in real MLB. Also ERA is 4.46 and WHIP is 1.35 in real life right now so that looks good as well.

                  Anyway, thought I would share. This is my favorite version of the game to date as it does not shut the offense down as much as in years past! I find myself watching many games as it plays out great on the field. I work from home so I usually get to knock out 7-10 games per day. My MoM games take approximately 2 hours though.
                  Last edited by tgreer; 04-15-2023, 07:11 AM.

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #24
                    Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                    Originally posted by tgreer
                    I play MoM but also let the CPU vs CPU game play out every game my team isn't in (no simming or QC I run it on Fast Play takes about 1 hour). Love seeing all of the players stats play out on the field for each team. Here are the stats through 108 games (basically one week of the season)

                    Show Stats vs (MLB real stats avg last 2 years)

                    Everything Default except the 4 Error Sliders at 8, BR Steal Ability 7, and BR Steal Frequency 7. These have always been too low in MoM games on Default so I started out with them this way like I have in the past and it looks decent (except SB will be up this year with the closer bases)

                    AB 33.82 (33.48)
                    R 4.94 (4.41)
                    H 8.52 (8.15)
                    E 0.38 (0.54)
                    2B 1.93 (1.63)
                    3B 0.15 (0.14)
                    HR 1.02 (1.15)
                    BB 4.27 (3.16)
                    K 8.93 (8.54)
                    SB 0.46 (0.49)
                    CS 0.18 (0.16)
                    GIDP 0.85 (0.70)
                    HBP 0.67 (0.43)
                    AVG .252 (.244)
                    OBP .347 (.315)
                    ERA 4.75 (4.11)
                    WHIP 1.44 (1.28)

                    Walks are the only thing that stands out a little but I love the way this game plays so I am afraid to DL the latest patch in fear it could mess things up. Offense is more up to par with how 2023 is playing out in real life right now with 4.71 runs being scored per game and team avg at .249 in real MLB. Also ERA is 4.46 and WHIP is 1.35 in real life right now so that looks good as well.

                    Anyway, thought I would share. This is my favorite version of the game to date as it does not shut the offense down as much as in years past! I find myself watching many games as it plays out great on the field. I work from home so I usually get to knock out 7-10 games per day. My MoM games take approximately 2 hours though.
                    I do that for Madden (watch all the games), and thought about that for MLBTS but way to many games for the amount of time I have to play. Thanks for sharing those stats though. That will help. Im halfway through spring right now, so I will post stats at the end of Spring, and at the end of every month.
                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                    • jb1903
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 187

                      #25
                      Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                      Originally posted by forme95
                      Need to find a solution for pitches per inning. That's the only issue I am seeing that I'd want to fix. These 20+ pitch innings and then the traditional "bad" inning of 40+ pitches is the killer.
                      HBP/WP needs toning down as well.
                      forme - I’ve not gotten this year’s game yet, but had similar issues before. What I did is play around with the pitch control, pitch consistency, and strike frequency sliders and it seemed to help. For example, in MLB The Show 20, I had Control set at 4, Consistency at 4 and Strike Frequency set at 6. This seemed to help the pitchers make more of a variety of pitches between being well off the plate to down the middle, and enticed the hitters often to swing and strike the ball earlier in the count. I stayed away from adjusting foul frequency or timing. Not sure if this will help with 23, but might be worth a try.

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                      • forme95
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 3118

                        #26
                        Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                        Originally posted by jb1903
                        forme - I’ve not gotten this year’s game yet, but had similar issues before. What I did is play around with the pitch control, pitch consistency, and strike frequency sliders and it seemed to help. For example, in MLB The Show 20, I had Control set at 4, Consistency at 4 and Strike Frequency set at 6. This seemed to help the pitchers make more of a variety of pitches between being well off the plate to down the middle, and enticed the hitters often to swing and strike the ball earlier in the count. I stayed away from adjusting foul frequency or timing. Not sure if this will help with 23, but might be worth a try.
                        Interesting lowering control and consistency and raising strike freq. I was leaning more to 6 for control and 7 for consistency. Hoping to cut down on HBP and WP as well. Although those arent that bad so far it seems. However maybe I am looking at it wrong. I'll have to check that out.

                        I NEVER mess with the timing slider. I think it impacts the game to dramatically.
                        Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                        Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                        CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                        MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                        Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                        • jb1903
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 187

                          #27
                          Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                          Originally posted by forme95
                          Interesting lowering control and consistency and raising strike freq. I was leaning more to 6 for control and 7 for consistency. Hoping to cut down on HBP and WP as well. Although those arent that bad so far it seems. However maybe I am looking at it wrong. I'll have to check that out.

                          I NEVER mess with the timing slider. I think it impacts the game to dramatically.
                          I found increasing control makes the pitcher try to ‘paint the corners’ more, which then causes the batter to take more pitches. However, if you lower control, then you start to get too many balls and that can again increase pitch count and walks. By increasing strike frequency, it off sets that. Lower consistency increases the pitch location variety, including pitches way off the plate and/or right down the middle. All in all, I found it a good way to create realism with pitch location, getting strike outs, walks, pitch count etc. about right. I should mention this was with contact and power at default. I didn’t like messing with foul frequency, because I didn’t like the way the ball came off the bat at times.

                          ps - The results I experienced with these changes were pitch counts as low as 8-10, and up to 30 or 35 if the pitcher had a bad inning. ‘Normal’ innings were more in the 12 to 25 range. Lots of variation.
                          Last edited by jb1903; 04-15-2023, 01:03 PM. Reason: Wanted to add more text

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                          • forme95
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 3118

                            #28
                            Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                            Originally posted by jb1903
                            I found increasing control makes the pitcher try to ‘paint the corners’ more, which then causes the batter to take more pitches. However, if you lower control, then you start to get too many balls and that can again increase pitch count and walks. By increasing strike frequency, it off sets that. Lower consistency increases the pitch location variety, including pitches way off the plate and/or right down the middle. All in all, I found it a good way to create realism with pitch location, getting strike outs, walks, pitch count etc. about right. I should mention this was with contact and power at default. I didn’t like messing with foul frequency, because I didn’t like the way the ball came off the bat at times.

                            ps - The results I experienced with these changes were pitch counts as low as 8-10, and up to 30 or 35 if the pitcher had a bad inning. ‘Normal’ innings were more in the 12 to 25 range. Lots of variation.
                            Great info, thank you. I will start testing it. Is Fielding at default also?

                            How are the HBP and WP?
                            Last edited by forme95; 04-15-2023, 02:10 PM.
                            Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                            Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                            CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                            MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                            Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                            • forme95
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3118

                              #29
                              Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                              OP is updated.

                              A few changes. I am using broadcast camera for both now. Just a different view for gameplay.

                              For both Hum and CPU
                              Power 4
                              Foul Freq 3

                              Those are the only changes for now.
                              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                              Comment

                              • jb1903
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 187

                                #30
                                Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                                Originally posted by forme95
                                Great info, thank you. I will start testing it. Is Fielding at default also?

                                How are the HBP and WP?
                                I had infield throwing/fielding errors maxed, and OF throwing at 8, and OF fielding at 6. Felt that gave me the best realistic results for the roster I was using. I thought HPB, WP and PB were all realistic. I do look for realistic gameplay and results where I know some people get irritated with things like errors and WP’s. Also, keep in mind, this was for MLB 20, not 23.

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