Manage Mode (MoM)

[forme95]

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A lot depends on the roster u use.

Fidelity for instance toned down the vision rating for a lot of players. This increases ks a lot . I use Bobby Witt in my cpu vs cpu franchise and his vision rating was 20 points lower in the Fidelity roster. He struck out a ton. 1.3 ks a game. With the default rosters he strikes out 0.86 after 45 games.

Changing attributes by a large amount changes gameplay significantly.

Not to take away from the hard working roster makers, but that is why I only use OOTB or Live rosters. The more you manipulate the ratings in a roster, the more you need sliders to be adjusted to compensate.

[bk1369]

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I have a good set of sliders - still a lot of Ks but not a crazy amount. I was just surprised at the difference between yours on a PS5 and me using the same on a PS4.

What sliders are you using for PS4? I'm about 35 games in and my team average is around .200. Using the Rangers.

[Grinder12000]

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What sliders are you using for PS4? I'm about 35 games in and my team average is around .200. Using the Rangers.

I've tried 3 different sliders of 20 games each using Brewers. Totally blows. .275 OB about a .200 Avg. The NON-manager team is fine. When I try CPU v. CPU totally normally and MAYBE a little high scoring. MoM ? I've played 10 straight games with 0,1 or 2 runs a game and 10 to 18 Ks for MY team. Peralta? More walks then Ks should be 4-1 the OTHER way. sigh

I've bumped the PLAYER ratings which do nothing at all. franks sliders are BAD for the PS4 but seem perfect for Ps5 so I created new sliders which . . . also do nothing it seems.

Sorry for whining. But something is really different for Ps4 OH - I have Contact AND Power set to 8 - is it backwards? LOL

[frank70]

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I reverted back to default sliders. I posted in another thread why i did that and that changing attributes instead of sliders is my current way to go.


What i found out:

- don't mess with sliders

The sliders are very sensitive. In other games you have a scale between 0 and 100.
In MLB The Show we have only 10 slider positions. And every change of a slider has a significant input how the games play on the field. No slider only impacts only one attribute - often two or three attributes are affected. So i leave all sliders at default and play on Allstar level.

What i do instead is changing the attributes of the players. In my franchise with the Yankees (with the default rosters) all offensive numbers were low, and i had too many strikeouts and too many BB. But changing sliders threw off other aspects of the game. Either the statistical numbers weren't right or the play on the field just looked unrealistic.

So i began changing player attributes:

- contact +5
- power + 5
- vision +5

Pitchers:

K/9 -10
BB/9 +10

And that actually worked. I am still testing and might change the numbers but the change of the attributes has precisely changed the elements of the game i wanted to influence.And only those - without ripple effects.

If you are striking out too may people when playing the game yourself, lowering the strikeout attributes of your pitchers in combination with bumping up the vision ratings for the cpu might be a solution. It costs me around 5 minutes before each series to change the attributes - but for me it was worth it.

[forme95]

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I've tried 3 different sliders of 20 games each using Brewers. Totally blows. .275 OB about a .200 Avg. The NON-manager team is fine. When I try CPU v. CPU totally normally and MAYBE a little high scoring. MoM ? I've played 10 straight games with 0,1 or 2 runs a game and 10 to 18 Ks for MY team. Peralta? More walks then Ks should be 4-1 the OTHER way. sigh

I've bumped the PLAYER ratings which do nothing at all. franks sliders are BAD for the PS4 but seem perfect for Ps5 so I created new sliders which . . . also do nothing it seems.

Sorry for whining. But something is really different for Ps4 OH - I have Contact AND Power set to 8 - is it backwards? LOL

No slider is backwards LOL. MLBTS is very good about intended slider meaning. It isnt Madden where one slider effects a array of things.

Try making little changes though. Only make 1 or 2 changes in small increments.
Try lowering Strike Frequency first. It will put more pitches off the plate. May help with SO totals. Next try lowering Control. Will help make more mistake pitches which should help offense. Try those first.

[forme95]

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Thought a problem was brewing, but I forgot I made a roster move. I sent a guy down and took him off the 40 and added another guy.
Anything you do roster related will mess up a game or two. Don't know why, it's just programming

[forme95]

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What is the point of the energy bar if the cpu can pitch 2 innings past empty and pitch like he's full energy. Your pitcher becomes a complete mess with a 1/4 energy left........

[forme95]

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Well, I found out I HAVE TO download patches. I dont know if its because I have the digital version or not. Game started playing really weird. Had no offense and scored 4 runs in 12 games. I was being outscored 4 to 37. Downloaded patch, and all has been corrected. Game playing like it was before.

This is the first time I have messed with skipping patches. Lesson learned.

I also have gone back to dugout view. Broadcast is nice, but I dont get the immersion like with dugout view.

[shawn306]

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I wonder what the difference is between the live roster and the default roster. I am using the default roster right now and the Yankees after a month are hitting are last in hitting with a 215 Average and like 23rd in homers and first in strikeouts.

Looking at the first live roster that came out with Tatis I notice Rizzo's contract against righties is up from like 49 to something in the 60's and DJ's numbers are way up as well from the default.

I basically use Josh's 2021 sliders with everything at default except for contact which I have at 6. I did piddle with the reliver stamina some moving it down to 2 and pushing the manager hook to 7 and but I went back to default's because if I use a guy like Clay Holmes two days in a row then he basically sits for the next two games to get his stamina back. I may keep tweeking that part.

I am going to give it another month before I decide whether to go back to 22. I reallly like the way the games plays just not getting enough juice with things basically at default.

[forme95]

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I wonder what the difference is between the live roster and the default roster. I am using the default roster right now and the Yankees after a month are hitting are last in hitting with a 215 Average and like 23rd in homers and first in strikeouts.

Looking at the first live roster that came out with Tatis I notice Rizzo's contract against righties is up from like 49 to something in the 60's and DJ's numbers are way up as well from the default.

I basically use Josh's 2021 sliders with everything at default except for contact which I have at 6. I did piddle with the reliver stamina some moving it down to 2 and pushing the manager hook to 7 and but I went back to default's because if I use a guy like Clay Holmes two days in a row then he basically sits for the next two games to get his stamina back. I may keep tweeking that part.

I am going to give it another month before I decide whether to go back to 22. I reallly like the way the games plays just not getting enough juice with things basically at default.

Default rosters are pretty much the previous years end roster ratings if I were to guess. I usually use the end of Aprils live update and save it so I always have it. Thats the roster I use. I dont follow the live roster after that. Either roster is fine in my opinion. Before the 4/21 live update, I was using default and it was playing well also.

Are you on PS4 or PS5? Ive heard that the PS4 may have issues with Manage Mode. Im on PS5 and havent seen any offense issues. Im 25 games through spring and have a team BA .241 which is about T18 I think it was. I also went through 12 games where I didnt download the patch and it caused issues to my gameplay.

The problem with moving Stamina is, if you raise it, it causes the hitters to be more passive and makes pitchers throw more pitches. Theyre better left at default.
You can try to lower Fielding Speed and Reaction to 4. That will give more hits a chance to get through.

[shawn306]

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Default rosters are pretty much the previous years end roster ratings if I were to guess. I usually use the end of Aprils live update and save it so I always have it. Thats the roster I use. I dont follow the live roster after that. Either roster is fine in my opinion. Before the 4/21 live update, I was using default and it was playing well also.

Are you on PS4 or PS5? Ive heard that the PS4 may have issues with Manage Mode. Im on PS5 and havent seen any offense issues. Im 25 games through spring and have a team BA .241 which is about T18 I think it was. I also went through 12 games where I didnt download the patch and it caused issues to my gameplay.

The problem with moving Stamina is, if you raise it, it causes the hitters to be more passive and makes pitchers throw more pitches. Theyre better left at default.
You can try to lower Fielding Speed and Reaction to 4. That will give more hits a chance to get through.

I am on a PS5.

I kinda like have reliver stamina dropped to 2 and having the manager hook at 7. It was based on some of the threads regarding the sim complete games shutouts. It made me manage my bullpen more with the hopes and maybe having to call guys up if it got too worn out. I may still tinker a bit but right now I am going to leave at the defaults.

I think last year Seattle in real life hit under 200 the first month of the season. I was pretty amazed by that but that is baseball these days. I think I am just two games under 500 at like 13-15 so I am going to give it another month and see if there is some improvement as the weather warms up.

[forme95]

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I am on a PS5.

I kinda like have reliver stamina dropped to 2 and having the manager hook at 7. It was based on some of the threads regarding the sim complete games shutouts. It made me manage my bullpen more with the hopes and maybe having to call guys up if it got too worn out. I may still tinker a bit but right now I am going to leave at the defaults.

I think last year Seattle in real life hit under 200 the first month of the season. I was pretty amazed by that but that is baseball these days. I think I am just two games under 500 at like 13-15 so I am going to give it another month and see if there is some improvement as the weather warms up.

Off the top of my head, I dont remember what my record is in Spring, but I am also 3 or 4 games under .500.
I will stream my Spring stats before I start the regular season. I'll post when I do. Should be next weekend. I have a hard time getting games in during the week, but can tear through 8 to 12 on the weekends.

Do you change Reliever Stamina and Hook between sim and managed or leave it at 2 and 7 for sim and managed games? Do you have Starter Stamina at 5 or change that as well?

[shawn306]

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I don’t do 30 team team control so the sliders stay the same.

Starting pitcher stamina stays at 5.

I am going try reliever stamina at 3

Manager hook at 7

[forme95]

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I don’t do 30 team team control so the sliders stay the same.

Starting pitcher stamina stays at 5.

I am going try reliever stamina at 3

Manager hook at 7

I am very interested in your results. Please post your thoughts after you get through 2 to 3 rotations (10-15 games).

[shawn306]

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Well i decided that I would start from scratch with the first live roster that has Tatis in it. My leading hitter right now was Judge and he was hitting a robust 245. Team batting average dropped to like 213.

The one other change I am going to make is to drop the contact down back down to 5 from 6. To see if playing pretty much at default would make a difference.

So the only changes from default will be the following

Reliever Stamina at 3
Manager hook at 7
Injuries at 7 and 6.
Trades. April and May will be at 3, June up to the two weeks before the trade deadline 4 and the trade deadline will be 5.

I'll see how much a difference there is.