S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

**HeadCoach2.0** · 03-28-2023, 12:34 PM

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Is there going to be a SDS opening day roster adjustment?

**DarthRambo** · 03-28-2023, 12:39 PM

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Yes, I am excited now knowing we finally found a breakthrough. No more 20 singles out of 21 hits in a game. And no more hard hit singles 9 times out of 10. Like Bryan said, we just need to fine tune it to get cpu batting average in a good spot. I think hit distribution percentages are already there.

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**ninertravel** · 03-28-2023, 04:51 PM

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one thing I have noticed of late the CPU is hitting to many guys HBP. and in stupid circumstances too when the game is on the line

I had a 6-5 epic win against white sox with house. Tucker hit a bases loaded 3-2 count clearing 3 RBI bases clearing hit. to take the lead late. but the CPU decided to go wild and hit back to back guys before that. (this is why people talk the comeback code it is like they want you to come back into a game or vice versa)

they also did it in the mets miami game. Robertson closing decided with a 1 run lead to throw a pitch at the batter to load the bases somehow he got out of it though.

it is not like the HBP are accidental too it looks deliberate by the CPU late in a game. the cover boy had a awesome game was 3 from 3 with a homer for me and stopped a run at home plate with a throw.. and ruined a 9th innings at bat by HBP to him has it loaded the bases the CPU could have just INT walked him not HIT.

but yeah noticed lost of HBP recently

**catfish9-5** · 03-28-2023, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by fuhrsy

I only played 2 games with sliders but yes I had most the CPU runs scored in the 4th inning both games

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2nd time thru the lineup can get a little dicey. Maybe they’ve tried to replicate that in some sort of way only to be overdone.

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**bryanm1982** · 03-28-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by ninertravel

one thing I have noticed of late the CPU is hitting to many guys HBP. and in stupid circumstances too when the game is on the line

I had a 6-5 epic win against white sox with house. Tucker hit a bases loaded 3-2 count clearing 3 RBI bases clearing hit. to take the lead late. but the CPU decided to go wild and hit back to back guys before that. (this is why people talk the comeback code it is like they want you to come back into a game or vice versa)

they also did it in the mets miami game. Robertson closing decided with a 1 run lead to throw a pitch at the batter to load the bases somehow he got out of it though.

it is not like the HBP are accidental too it looks deliberate by the CPU late in a game. the cover boy had a awesome game was 3 from 3 with a homer for me and stopped a run at home plate with a throw.. and ruined a 9th innings at bat by HBP to him has it loaded the bases the CPU could have just INT walked him not HIT.

but yeah noticed lost of HBP recently

Yeah I see it too. They had that issue in 22 as well. But playing a full season it does seem to even out.

**bryanm1982** · 03-28-2023, 06:23 PM

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Here is what we are testing. We believe the key is solid hits at 0. Yes, you read that right. We have just been seeing so many hard hit singles. It is like sometimes it feels they don’t have any lift to the ball. So we tried 0 and believe it or not you wouldn’t know it is on 0. Steve played a couple of games with it and had plenty of doubles and less singles. It was more variety.

So we are testing below. I’ll play several games tonight.

CPU contact: 6
CPU power: 9
CPU timing: 7
CPU solid hits: 0

This is on Allstar with human control at 0 consistency at 3.

**ninertravel** · 03-28-2023, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by bryanm1982

Yeah I see it too. They had that issue in 22 as well. But playing a full season it does seem to even out.

Yeah it is almost like it is pre determined code in there somewhere which does work perfect for a baseball, no other sport game could get away with that.. I really believe this. but it helps with randomness and that is baseball.

This game plays great,

I can't believe I went from blowing teams away to that 1-0 loss with the angels.. so Ohtani had 12 ks in 7 innings. but Kyle Muller out of all people had 10ks!!! it was one of those games I just couldn't hit after all the blow outs before. It must be that stadium I never hit there! or it was just Angels doing Angels things and ruining Ohtani great start lol

**Rmiok222** · 03-28-2023, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by ninertravel

Yeah it is almost like it is pre determined code in there somewhere which does work perfect for a baseball, no other sport game could get away with that.. I really believe this. but it helps with randomness and that is baseball.

This game plays great,

I can't believe I went from blowing teams away to that 1-0 loss with the angels.. so Ohtani had 12 ks in 7 innings. but Kyle Muller out of all people had 10ks!!! it was one of those games I just couldn't hit after all the blow outs before. It must be that stadium I never hit there! or it was just Angels doing Angels things and ruining Ohtani great start lol

Weird you say that. Kyle Muller just beat me as well lol. He gave up 1 ER through 6 innings. Ended up losing 7-5.

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**bryanm1982** · 03-29-2023, 03:29 AM

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Okay, I think we have our pitching sliders (finally). We are staying on Allstar. The OP is updated. We are going to work on hitting tomorrow. It should be easy and we can stay close to default.

We have one major change which is CPU Solid Hits at 0. For some odd reason, we get more variety with it at 0 and not just hard hit singles. We did several games with it over the last couple of nights. The CPU’s hard hit rate is actually 35% with it. That is the real life MLB average as well.

Let us know how these work for you if you want to try them. I know some of you have been playing with what we had on the OP. If you don’t feel the need to change, continue to play with them.

**DarthRambo** · 03-29-2023, 08:49 AM

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It's my weekend! Going to be collecting data on the spreadsheet with the OP settings. Pitching only for both teams so it won't take long to have quite a bit of data to assess everything. Hopefully by sometime tmrrw I can be done with this and everything looks good. I have a good feeling the numbers and stuff we track will be on point and we can lock in our human pitching and cpu hitting sliders.

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**DarthRambo** · 03-29-2023, 12:41 PM

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Okay guys, the OP set is just absolutely as perfect baseball simulation we're going to get imo. Talking user pitching vs cpu hitting that is. Haven't dialed in user hitting, which a lot of that is dependent on user skill anyway when we're talking timing hitting.

Have the equivalent of only 6 games of cpu hitting stats entered in, so still not many, but any long time MLBTS vet will tell you that when you know you know. You guys can see the stats and data here. Batting average is pretty high but everything else is perfect.

My only thought now is cpu contact at 7 or 6. I think it's going to come down to personal skill level and what pitching interface you are using, along with where you have the pitcher control and consistency sliders. Personally my gut tells me 6 will be that sweet spot, but over the long haul contact at 7 could give us what we want. Will take quite a bit of testing and data collecting to really see that.

But as far as hit distribution goes, that's going to stay in the green no matter what their batting average is. So IMO all cpu hitting sliders and human pitcher sliders are locked in except cpu contact. What an amazing game we have this year. Easily the best yet! Now, if they fix quick counts then I'd be in heaven.

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**dubplate** · 03-29-2023, 02:18 PM

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Looking forward to testing the new set after work today.

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**DarthRambo** · 03-30-2023, 12:46 AM

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I know it's not the most entertaining watch but Bryan and I are both live streaming testing cpu hitting still, pitching for both teams if anyone wants to check it out.

Still just need more cpu homeruns! Everything is perfect except lack of cpu homeruns. Very odd cause every other year for as long as I can remember there are too many homeruns by default.

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**HeadCoach2.0** · 03-30-2023, 03:00 AM

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I won't be starting my franchise until Friday but until then I have been exploring the game.

THE NEGRO LEAGUE STORYLINE IS AMAZING.
I can't understand why they didn't make it a playable mode. I don't understand SDS and the moves they make.

If they ever do Negro League teams and seasons I am all in.

The Sliders work well in that mode too.

**Blackhawk30** · 03-30-2023, 03:27 AM

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Wanted to thank you for the sliders and your hard work.

Has anyone seen any bloops or flares with these sliders yet?

S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

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