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  • #1
    CaptainZombie
    Brains
    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

    Take Two Deal MLB License


    I found this post at GameFaqs from a guy on his take of the possible downfall of Take Two if MLB2K6 fails. It's interesting.

    http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=26637677


    "When Take Two bought the third party rights to the MLB, they undoubtedly thought that 989's game would be a non-factor. They thought that a buyout of MLB rights would result in a massive, and automatic, immigration of MVP fans straight into the 2k series. Most likely, this deal was being hatched before the release of MLB 2006, when that series was still a far distant third, and generally regarded to be an inferior series.

    However, the striking of this deal coincided perfectly with the rebirth of the MLB series into a serious contender. As evidenced by board activity not only here but on other major gaming sites (Operation Sports,) MLB: The Show is drawing more fan support from the alienated MVP fans than is the 2k series. And this is despite a 2k6 advertising campaign that massively outweighs MLB's, and despite multi-platform distribution for 2k6.

    So what happens to Take Two's careful planning if they release a game that is not only inferior to the MVP series, but is also inferior to this unforseen competitor in MLB: The Show? All the fans which Take Two had taken for granted defect to the MLB series, leaving Take Two with no means by which to generate the revenue to cover their purchase of the rights.

    One might say: "But 2k6 will be released across multiple platforms. MLB: The Show is PS2 only." Remember that the PS2 controlls over 80% of the market-- well more than enough to make multi-platform distribution a non-factor.

    Pair this with a loss of their NFL rights, and 2k sports is left with their NHL series, which generates limited revenue at best, due to the sport's niche, regional market, and also has EA's NHL series as an outselling competitor, and Take Two finds themselves in a very precarious financial position, staring down the barrels of two massive competitors, each producing competing product, and who have the ability to drastically outsell them."
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  • #2
    theaub
    Stop! Homer Time!
    • Feb 2004
    • 9643

    Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


    Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

    And as I posted below that (but in the wrong words): When MLB 2K6 is the only game on the 360, and the PS3 costs $900, they'll be alright.
    Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

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    • #3
      CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


      Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

      Originally posted by theaub
      And as I posted below that (but in the wrong words): When MLB 2K6 is the only game on the 360, and the PS3 costs $900, they'll be alright.
      You do make a good point about the xbox and 360 audience. But look at how many might just stick with MVP05 and MVP NCAA 06 instead of MLB2K6.
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      • #4
        Mr.Blackace
        Rookie
        • Feb 2006
        • 135

        Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


        Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

        2k is going for 39.99? Any baseball fan who doesn't own a PS2 will buy it.. However, PS2 has the biggest marketshare so it is still a bit of a problem for them. Take 2 doesn't only make baseball games so they will be fine. This kind of deal makes it just so EA cannot make baseball games and it is doing just what they wanted. I don't think they thought they would take 90% of the industry..They went into the deal with the loophole of 1st party games so that they wouldn't cut out Sony. It is not like MLB decided they wanted 1st party support. They knew what they were doing with this when they did it. It is just to make EA less of a household name. Take 2's basketball went toe to toe with Live and maybe even out did them this year.. no baseball and only football.

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        • #5
          CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


          Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

          Originally posted by Mr.Blackace
          2k is going for 39.99? Any baseball fan who doesn't own a PS2 will buy it.. However, PS2 has the biggest marketshare so it is still a bit of a problem for them. Take 2 doesn't only make baseball games so they will be fine. This kind of deal makes it just so EA cannot make baseball games and it is doing just what they wanted. I don't think they thought they would take 90% of the industry..They went into the deal with the loophole of 1st party games so that they wouldn't cut out Sony. It is not like MLB decided they wanted 1st party support. They knew what they were doing with this when they did it. It is just to make EA less of a household name. Take 2's basketball went toe to toe with Live and maybe even out did them this year.. no baseball and only football.
          If the Visual Concepts team was onboard for the MLB2K series, than 2K would have one of the best baseball games available after all the work they did to NBA2K and NFL2K. KUSH is taking this series in the wrong direction.
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          • #6
            Mr.Blackace
            Rookie
            • Feb 2006
            • 135

            Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


            Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

            Originally posted by candyman56
            If the Visual Concepts team was onboard for the MLB2K series, than 2K would have one of the best baseball games available after all the work they did to NBA2K and NFL2K. KUSH is taking this series in the wrong direction.
            That of course is up for debate (and for the record I agree with you) but the MLB license was just a chess move to counter EA.. because EA wanted to crush all hope for a rival football game..

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            • #7
              SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


              Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

              I have a PS2 and I will be buying MLB 2k6 but if the game has the same kind of problems that it had last year then i'm defecting. The new screens for 2k6 have me worried tho.

              If only VC was doing this game.
              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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              • #8
                e0820
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 2070

                Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


                Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

                Originally posted by candyman56
                Pair this with a loss of their NFL rights, and 2k sports is left with their NHL series, which generates limited revenue at best, due to the sport's niche, regional market, and also has EA's NHL series as an outselling competitor, and Take Two finds themselves in a very precarious financial position, staring down the barrels of two massive competitors, each producing competing product, and who have the ability to drastically outsell them."[/I]
                What about NBA2k series?

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                • #9
                  Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24962

                  Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


                  Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

                  Please. Just another *****....and Madden(EA) lover hoping what everyone else is hoping about those jerkoffs at EA.
                  Yeah .....TakeTwo was banking on the sales of any one game to make up for buying the exclusive rights........wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?


                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                  • #10
                    CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


                    Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

                    Originally posted by e0820
                    What about NBA2k series?
                    I love the NBA2K series better than LIVE and NBA06. Again, Visual Concepts works on the NBA series and KUSH works on the MLB series. This is why one game is so superior over the other in quality gameplay imo.
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                    • #11
                      Triggerfish
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 878

                      Re: Take Two Deal MLB License


                      Re: Take Two Deal MLB License

                      Im an xbox guy and just recently bought a PS2 for MLB.There are more out there who did this. Ill wait for the forums reviewers and the people here before i buy 2k for the 360.I really do hope they can put out a good game. Could not care less on who makes the game.

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