Oy....ASB scoring error!

**HealyMonster** · 03-05-2003, 06:00 AM

Re: Oy....ASB scoring error!

might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

**HealyMonster** · 03-05-2003, 06:00 AM

Re: Oy....ASB scoring error!

might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

**shadyridr** · 03-05-2003, 09:24 AM

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might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

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No you might wanna check the rulebook. A SP HAS to go 5 innings to get the win.

**shadyridr** · 03-05-2003, 09:24 AM

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might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

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No you might wanna check the rulebook. A SP HAS to go 5 innings to get the win.

**nikeford** · 03-05-2003, 09:46 AM

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might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

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No you might wanna check the rulebook. A SP HAS to go 5 innings to get the win.

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No, if your game is less than 6 innings, then a starting pitcher only has to go 4 complete innings.

**nikeford** · 03-05-2003, 09:46 AM

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might want to check the mlb rulebook on that 1 bro. If the other team never takes the lead and you stay on top, damico would get the win even if its not to 5 innings.

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No you might wanna check the rulebook. A SP HAS to go 5 innings to get the win.

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No, if your game is less than 6 innings, then a starting pitcher only has to go 4 complete innings.

**IrishDrew** · 03-05-2003, 10:13 AM

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In a 9-inning game, the starting pitcher must complete five innings to earn a victory. Obviously if he leaves the game tied or losing after five and his team comes back to win he does not get a win. One interesting baseball rule says that if a starting pitcher leaves the game with a lead before his half of the fifth inning is completed, the official scorer does not have to give the win to the relief pitcher who completed the fifth inning. In that case, the official scorer can select any reliever he feels was "most effective" and arbitrarily give them the win.

For example, Kerry Wood leaves a game in the fourth with a blister and the Cubs up 8-2. Kyle Farnsworth comes in and gives up three runs in the fifth but the Cubs are still up 8-5. He would be the pitcher of record. Say Juan Cruz comes in for The Farns and pitches three scoreless innings. The Cubs end up winning 10-5 or something. Farnsworth completed the fifth inning and the Cubs had a lead they never lost. But He gave up three runs in less than two innings. Cruz pitched three scoreless. The scorer can give the win to Cruz if he wants.

Either way, D'Amico did not qualify for a win in the first poster's scenario.

**IrishDrew** · 03-05-2003, 10:13 AM

Re: Oy....ASB scoring error!

In a 9-inning game, the starting pitcher must complete five innings to earn a victory. Obviously if he leaves the game tied or losing after five and his team comes back to win he does not get a win. One interesting baseball rule says that if a starting pitcher leaves the game with a lead before his half of the fifth inning is completed, the official scorer does not have to give the win to the relief pitcher who completed the fifth inning. In that case, the official scorer can select any reliever he feels was "most effective" and arbitrarily give them the win.

For example, Kerry Wood leaves a game in the fourth with a blister and the Cubs up 8-2. Kyle Farnsworth comes in and gives up three runs in the fifth but the Cubs are still up 8-5. He would be the pitcher of record. Say Juan Cruz comes in for The Farns and pitches three scoreless innings. The Cubs end up winning 10-5 or something. Farnsworth completed the fifth inning and the Cubs had a lead they never lost. But He gave up three runs in less than two innings. Cruz pitched three scoreless. The scorer can give the win to Cruz if he wants.

Either way, D'Amico did not qualify for a win in the first poster's scenario.

**nikeford** · 03-05-2003, 10:34 AM

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Unless his game was a spring training game...you know those rules are completely different. Starting pitchers rarely go more than 3 or 4 innings in spring training games, so perhaps thats the case? Was it a spring training game? And if so, the official scorer will give the win to the starting pitcher even if he only goes 3 innings because its spring training.

**nikeford** · 03-05-2003, 10:34 AM

Re: Oy....ASB scoring error!

Unless his game was a spring training game...you know those rules are completely different. Starting pitchers rarely go more than 3 or 4 innings in spring training games, so perhaps thats the case? Was it a spring training game? And if so, the official scorer will give the win to the starting pitcher even if he only goes 3 innings because its spring training.

**Skyboxer** · 03-05-2003, 02:05 PM

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10.19
(a) Credit the starting pitcher with a game won only if he has pitched at least five complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (b) The "must pitch five complete innings" rule in respect to the starting pitcher shall be in effect for all games of six or more innings. In a five inning game, credit the starting pitcher with a game won if he has pitched at least four complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (c) When the starting pitcher cannot be credited with the victory because of the provisions of 10.19 (a) or (b) and more than one relief pitcher is used, the victory shall be awarded on the following basis: (1) When, during the tenure of the starting pitcher, the winning team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game, credit the victory to the relief pitcher judged by the scorer to have been the most effective; (2) Whenever the score is tied the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning and losing pitcher is concerned; (3) Once the opposing team assumes the lead all pitchers who have pitched up to that point are excluded from being credited with the victory except that if the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher;
(4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game. EXCEPTION: Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory. (d) When a pitcher is removed for a substitute batter or substitute runner, all runs scored by his team during the inning in which he is removed shall be credited to his benefit in determining the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead. (e) Regardless of how many innings the first pitcher has pitched, he shall be charged with the loss of the game if he is replaced when his team is behind in the score, or falls behind because of runs charged to him after he is replaced, and his team thereafter fails either to tie the score or gain the lead. (f) No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts out the side without a run scoring and pitches all the rest of the game. When two or more pitchers combine to pitch a shutout a notation to that effect should be included in the league's official pitching records. (g) In some non championship games (such as the Major League All Star Game) it is provided in advance that each pitcher shall work a stated number of innings, usually two or three. In such games, it is customary to credit the victory to the pitcher of record, whether starter or reliever, when the winning team takes a lead which it maintains to the end of the game, unless such pitcher is knocked out after the winning team has a commanding lead, and the scorer believes a subsequent pitcher is entitled to credit for the victory.

**Skyboxer** · 03-05-2003, 02:05 PM

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10.19
(a) Credit the starting pitcher with a game won only if he has pitched at least five complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (b) The "must pitch five complete innings" rule in respect to the starting pitcher shall be in effect for all games of six or more innings. In a five inning game, credit the starting pitcher with a game won if he has pitched at least four complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (c) When the starting pitcher cannot be credited with the victory because of the provisions of 10.19 (a) or (b) and more than one relief pitcher is used, the victory shall be awarded on the following basis: (1) When, during the tenure of the starting pitcher, the winning team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game, credit the victory to the relief pitcher judged by the scorer to have been the most effective; (2) Whenever the score is tied the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning and losing pitcher is concerned; (3) Once the opposing team assumes the lead all pitchers who have pitched up to that point are excluded from being credited with the victory except that if the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher;
(4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game. EXCEPTION: Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory. (d) When a pitcher is removed for a substitute batter or substitute runner, all runs scored by his team during the inning in which he is removed shall be credited to his benefit in determining the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead. (e) Regardless of how many innings the first pitcher has pitched, he shall be charged with the loss of the game if he is replaced when his team is behind in the score, or falls behind because of runs charged to him after he is replaced, and his team thereafter fails either to tie the score or gain the lead. (f) No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts out the side without a run scoring and pitches all the rest of the game. When two or more pitchers combine to pitch a shutout a notation to that effect should be included in the league's official pitching records. (g) In some non championship games (such as the Major League All Star Game) it is provided in advance that each pitcher shall work a stated number of innings, usually two or three. In such games, it is customary to credit the victory to the pitcher of record, whether starter or reliever, when the winning team takes a lead which it maintains to the end of the game, unless such pitcher is knocked out after the winning team has a commanding lead, and the scorer believes a subsequent pitcher is entitled to credit for the victory.

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