you can't be serious...

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look what it says in that new interview

"If you want to shake off a call, you can manually position your catcher using the right analog stick. The risk of not throwing or blowing the called pitch is that you increase the likelihood of a wild pitch."

So let me get this straight. If I want to pick where I throw the ball, then the chances of a wild pitch go up. Why would they not let you throw the ball where you want to? I don't want to be punished because I throw a fastball low and away when an AI catcher calls for a curve ball right down the middle. I thought the whole point of a baseball GAME was that I get to play it, now I know some people will disagree with me because I know that there are a lot of people who like auto fielding in their game. But for the people that want to play the game for themselves then this is not good.

[sportsdude]

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good point. i think you can only integrate too many gimmicks and tricks to make a game more "realistic" before it becomes simply not fun to play. I love baseball and i love sports video games, but sometimes all these new features are too much to make my head spin. keep it simply like mlb 2k3 but with a better engine and updated rosters and you've satisfied me.

[dkgojackets]

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wow, if what I infer is true (you cant decide what to throw and where) then this is a major letdown

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Well, in order for your catcher to call for pitches, you have to have a players Inside Edge scouting report. Which may be only 2-4 players a game unless you blow all of your budget money. Also, if you dont want to purchase scouting reports, you dont have to. Thus, you wont have the catcher calling for pitches.


Problem solved, lets move along.

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i don't know if that's true because that guy in the interview said that some catchers will call better games than others

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Another thing I'd like to add is when I read it, my interpretation was this.

If you throw the wrong pitch without shaking the catcher off, the likelyhood of a wild pitch increases.

If you blow the pitch, as in make a crucial mistake in throwing it, the likelyhood of a wild pitch is increased.


I believe shaking the catcher off nullifies the wild pitch increase and returns everything back to normal.

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i don't know if that's true because that guy in the interview said that some catchers will call better games than others

I highly doubt he'll call the entire game for you. Well, if he does, I dont think the wild pitches will be all to exaggerated. Like throwing 5 or 6 a game because you shake your catcher off.

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Another thing I'd like to add is when I read it, my interpretation was this.

If you throw the wrong pitch without shaking the catcher off, the likelyhood of a wild pitch increases.

If you blow the pitch, as in make a crucial mistake in throwing it, the likelyhood of a wild pitch is increased.


I believe shaking the catcher off nullifies the wild pitch increase and returns everything back to normal.

After reading it again, this may be wrong.

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but that would take all the skill out of online play. Plus, you would have to reposition your catcher for every pitch.

[baa7]

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Well, in order for your catcher to call for pitches, you have to have a players Inside Edge scouting report. Which may be only 2-4 players a game unless you blow all of your budget money. Also, if you dont want to purchase scouting reports, you dont have to. Thus, you wont have the catcher calling for pitches.


Problem solved, lets move along.

IF that's correct, it doesn't say much for the manner in which Inside Edge is implemented. I've said it before: Inside Edge ratings should be available for all players, BY DEFAULT... just like MVP 05. It's ridiculous that I wouldn't have access to a batter’s hit distribution chart. Good grief, that’s been a regular feature in practically every video baseball game ever made... except the 2K series that is. FINALLY this series is catching up with all the other baseball games in terms of offering basic ratings like this, and what…? We can’t use and have access to them, if we don’t want to use the feature with the catcher calling the game? That’s insane.

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if you look at all the behind the pitcher screenshots i have found you will see the same insider edge logo in the corner, and the catcher wanting the pitch in a certain location

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/685/685091/major-league-baseball-2k6-20060201051633620.jpg

http://www.2ksports.com/_img/screens..._012406_11.jpg

so it looks like that the scouting report that the catcher has doesn't cost any points. Kind of like how the hot and cold zones don't cost any points.

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but that would take all the skill out of online play. Plus, you would have to reposition your catcher for every pitch.

Inside Edge scouting reports are'nt availible for online play. I'm gonna stick with saying that your catcher only calls for pitches if you buy a players scouting report. A better catcher calls for better pitches whereas a weak catcher will probably call for pitches that lessen that likelyhood you get a batter out.

Think about it though, what point would IE be if your catcher were able to call the entire game? If you did'nt buy a IE scouting report and you had a good "call game" catcher, would it make sense for him to still call for the best pitches? That would make IE useless.

[RGmoney]

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Taken for a Dev Q/A on IE and Payoff Pitching over at 2ksports.com

Question 7

bigduux: hey guys, I just wanna say that u guys have the best baseball game on the market, I've seen and played 2k baseball and MVP, and 2k baseball is head and shoulders above MVP. Now too my question: in MLB 2k5, I noticed that my pitching was almost perfect. I played a full 162 game season, on the highest difficulty of course, and every starter on my team had an ERA less that 2.00. BTW, I was the Oakland A's (my fav team) (ed's note: Let's Go OAKLAND! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap). Anyway, my question is what steps have been taken to ensure that user pitching isn't so dominant in this year's title? I just want to make sure that I get the best and highest level of competition possible, That's what makes the game a game.....other than that the game was perfect, I expect nothing but greatness from this years title........DOWN WITH MVP BASEBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer: We'll we've heard your feedback and are introducing a new pitching system this year we think you'll all find fun and challenging. Our new pitching mechanic this year is called "Payoff Pitching" and the way it behaves makes it essential for users to know their pitches and understand their pitches in order to have them break properly into the right spots. Everybody here at Kush really digs it.

Unlike last year you'll be setting the BREAK of each pitch meaning if you want a curveball to drop in for a strike, you better set your cursor high and inside if you want it to drop down and away from a hitter (in a righty versus righty match up). The more effort you put on a pitch (hold down the pitch button), the more it'll break. So if you wanted to pinpoint your curveball you pretty much could, but that sucker isn't gonna bend or break one bit.

Additionally, we've made it this year so your individual pitches can get better or worse throughout the course of a game (hence the name "Payoff Pitching." When a batter has 2 strikes on him or you are in a clutch situation you can increase your pitch rating by nailing your catcher's target with a specific pitch. Bonus points for nailing your catcher's target with a suggested pitch or a highly effective pitch (hey it's a lot tougher to get a sweeping curveball to hit your catcher's target!) If you have the Inside Edge on a batter the catcher will automatically spot a pitch, otherwise you can choose to have your catcher target a spot for you by using the right stick to have him spot a pitch in a given location. You are never FORCED to make a payoff pitch (your pitch rating can go down if you miss the catcher's target), but you always have the option to if the situation comes up. Fun stuff.

Full Q/A can be found HERE

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oh ok that isn't worded to good but I think I understand