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  • Jistic
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 16405

    #16
    Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

    Sorry, but the "three year plan" thing is BS. You're essentially saying the game will be "done" in 2009, but we'll charge you full price for 2 beta's in the mean time.

    People have every right to complain about this game just as much as any game they're paying full price for.
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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #17
      Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

      Originally posted by Jistic
      Sorry, but the "three year plan" thing is BS. You're essentially saying the game will be "done" in 2009, but we'll charge you full price for 2 beta's in the mean time.

      People have every right to complain about this game just as much as any game they're paying full price for.
      That's very true, however, I feel much better plunking down $60 for this years version than the $60 I wasted last year.

      Brinkman didn't come on board till June or July. This version was probably being formed and shaped by the time he came on board. 6 months to improve on last years garbage is a tall order for anyone.

      The series, I hope, can only improve from last years version. I'll find out today.

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      • Heelfan71
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 19940

        #18
        Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

        Originally posted by Jistic
        Sorry, but the "three year plan" thing is BS. You're essentially saying the game will be "done" in 2009, but we'll charge you full price for 2 beta's in the mean time.

        People have every right to complain about this game just as much as any game they're paying full price for.
        they are not saying the game will be done in 2009. They fixed everything that was wrong with last years game. People complain no matter what. People always said "get the gameplay right first" and quit adding extra crap. Now that they do it, and people complain about the 3 year plan. Damned if they do, damned if they don't You supported MVP's 3 year plan didn't you?
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        • jwheels9876
          Rookie
          • Dec 2002
          • 198

          #19
          Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

          Originally posted by Jistic
          Sorry, but the "three year plan" thing is BS. You're essentially saying the game will be "done" in 2009, but we'll charge you full price for 2 beta's in the mean time.

          People have every right to complain about this game just as much as any game they're paying full price for.
          If this is a beta version then I guess the last 2 maddens from EA were pre-production versions. I dont know if I am the only one who thought mvp was a bore fest with cartoon players but I think this game will blow away mvp by next years release nevermind 2009!

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          • Moegames
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2396

            #20
            Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

            This 3 year plan reminds me of something EA would say and do..oh wait, 2ksports did recruit someone from EA's MVP team..didnt they? lol

            Seriously, i think the game rocks, i've only played the demo and it plays great. Fielding cam isnt perfect but give it time.. people are being to quick to judge this aspect of the game..it REALLY GROWS on you after a while, before u know it..its a peice of cake fielding..seriously.

            There are some flaws..fielding not being perfect, animation glitches, etc etc but wow, what a come back after last years disaster
            ..You win some, you lose some

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            • Drew127
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 523

              #21
              Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

              You people complaing about the 3 year plan obviously have no basic understanding of how this business works.

              How do you think a company such as 2k Sports stays afloat? Through consumer support. It is absolutely not feasible for them
              to work 3 years on developing a game and then release it - not in the sports gaming industry. Why is this? Well, aside from
              the obvious things such as being able to stay in business, what about feedback? Surely our feedback is very important
              to this game. Each year, our feedback will be essential to shaping this game into the super simulation that it will one day be.

              Well, if you think you can do better, open your own damn company and make the best baseball game ever in 1 year. Or, put your
              money where your mouth is, and see if YOU can take 3 years to make an amazing game with no budget. Then maybe you'll have an
              idea what it takes to make it in this world.

              This all reminds me of idiots who come into a restaurant and don't tip the server because the food isn't good. It's not even the
              server's fault. All the server does is bring the food for them and, you guessed it, serve them. And that is the only thing
              that they are being tipped for. Some people are just so stupid, so sucked into their own reality that they don't stop and think
              for a second about why things might be the way they are. Because 90% of the time, there is good reason they are like that.

              I'm done.

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              • DaveDQ
                13
                • Sep 2003
                • 7664

                #22
                Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                I've never played The Show, so I don't know what I'm missing. I don't like the three year plan comments by Brinkman. At least, I don't like the comments being public. To me, you talk about that with you co-workers.

                It seems to me that was said to try and soften the flaws that may be in the game. I happen to really think the game is nice, at least from what I've played in the Demo.

                I do agree though, if you are saying, "This is a 3 year plan," then maybe you should charge $20.00/$40.00/$60.00 for the game. When you say 3 year plan, you are saying the first two years aren't quite cutting it.
                Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                • backbreaker
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3991

                  #23
                  Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                  Originally posted by dQbell
                  I've never played The Show, so I don't know what I'm missing. I don't like the three year plan comments by Brinkman. At least, I don't like the comments being public. To me, you talk about that with you co-workers.

                  It seems to me that was said to try and soften the flaws that may be in the game. I happen to really think the game is nice, at least from what I've played in the Demo.

                  I do agree though, if you are saying, "This is a 3 year plan," then maybe you should charge $20.00/$40.00/$60.00 for the game. When you say 3 year plan, you are saying the first two years aren't quite cutting it.
                  I agree with your last paragraph wholeheartedly.

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                  • Heelfan71
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19940

                    #24
                    Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                    Originally posted by dQbell
                    When you say 3 year plan, you are saying the first two years aren't quite cutting it.
                    That might be how YOU take it. Re-read the interview. The game was so bad that they wanted to concentrate on the gameplay, which was the biggest problem. This game is in no way lacking any features or just a basic game. It has all the bells and whistles.
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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #25
                      Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                      I can understand people not buying the "3 Year Plan" lingo if the game doesn't improve every year, but from the looks of it & from playing the DEMO, this game plays much better than last year's title. I would say it play 10x better than last years title. Which for me makes it worth the price.

                      I don't understand why this is all of a sudden an issue, when we knew this was the approach Brtinkman & KUSH were taking month's ago

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                      • jwheels9876
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 198

                        #26
                        Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                        Originally posted by dQbell
                        I've never played The Show, so I don't know what I'm missing. I don't like the three year plan comments by Brinkman. At least, I don't like the comments being public. To me, you talk about that with you co-workers.

                        It seems to me that was said to try and soften the flaws that may be in the game. I happen to really think the game is nice, at least from what I've played in the Demo.

                        I do agree though, if you are saying, "This is a 3 year plan," then maybe you should charge $20.00/$40.00/$60.00 for the game. When you say 3 year plan, you are saying the first two years aren't quite cutting it.
                        I dont think thats what they are saying at all. Did you honestly think they could turn this game into what they have invisioned in a mere 6-8 month cycle? I think they are being realistic stating their goals moving forward. I would much rather have someone be honest and say that 3 years from now this game may be the game we have all been waiting for rather then them add some stupid gimick mode and not fix the core gameplay issues like some other sports titles do on a yearly basis. I dont know, maybe some folks expected this game to be HH, mvp, and the show all rolled up in a neat package in 1 development cycle under Brinkman. Granted this game has some flaws but FWIW I am enjoying the game and think that it will give me the fix I need during the long season.

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                        • Graphik
                          Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 10582

                          #27
                          Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                          Originally posted by Jistic
                          Sorry, but the "three year plan" thing is BS. You're essentially saying the game will be "done" in 2009, but we'll charge you full price for 2 beta's in the mean time.

                          People have every right to complain about this game just as much as any game they're paying full price for.

                          At the very least, at least they admitted it like the MVP crew did. That right there gives you the option to support the series or not. Brinkman is basically saying dont raise your expectations for 2K7 and 2K8 to high because the game wont be fully completed yet. I'll take that type of consumer-developer honesty over anything Tiburon has been shoving down our throats for the past 5 years.
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                          • JOEdellis
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2068

                            #28
                            Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                            Complete overhaul is what they need, aren't they doing this with NBA 2K? new graphics engine, ect?

                            fire kush.....

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                            • FocusYoMindOnDis
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 727

                              #29
                              Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                              Originally posted by Rainey
                              Your money is the only thing that will keep 2k a float!
                              touche...
                              When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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                              • EWRMETS
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 7491

                                #30
                                Re: Something to remember...3 year plan....

                                Originally posted by dQbell
                                I've never played The Show, so I don't know what I'm missing. I don't like the three year plan comments by Brinkman. At least, I don't like the comments being public. To me, you talk about that with you co-workers.

                                It seems to me that was said to try and soften the flaws that may be in the game. I happen to really think the game is nice, at least from what I've played in the Demo.

                                I do agree though, if you are saying, "This is a 3 year plan," then maybe you should charge $20.00/$40.00/$60.00 for the game. When you say 3 year plan, you are saying the first two years aren't quite cutting it.
                                I agree 100 percent with you. I think the only reason why he said this was to give MLB more of a MVP feel. But MVP had inexcusable errors before year 3 such as the lefty glitch that no game should have. If the game isn't perfect, that's fine, but I'm not going to accept terrible bugs just because 2k is in year 1 of their year 3 plan.

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