Games plays different when playing the yanks?

[Chitown1211]

Re: Games plays different when playing the yanks?

I had this happen to me in exhibition mode. I got a good set of sliders Im using and have been getting good results. If anything I needed to make the game harder.

Ive been going down the whole league playing road games against every team to test my sliders before starting a season. for the most part I was doing well. Winning more than losing, but then I got to the Yanks.

INSANE !!!!

They touched me up for 14 runs, 20 hits. Atleast 5 doubles and 4 HR's. Litteraly I was affraid to throw a pitch anywhere near the strike zone. They were like machines crushing everything. I went through my entire bullpen before I could slow them down.


It was crazy ,but at the same time it was fun. Getting absolutely DESTROYED by a team was nice for a change. And I was completely helpless.

I need to test to see if this is going to happen everytime I play the Yanks. If it does than that is not good, but if it doesnt happen all the time I will be happy. You should get crushed every now and then.

[Jitters_1981]

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You could try using the cards. I am doing well with them but there is always the sense that things could go horribly wrong in an instant. They have good power in the lineup with Pujols, Edmonds and Duncan and they have decent pitching with Carp, Mulder and Wainright. Not too overpowering but not weak either. If you do use them I do offer a tip. When hitting against a lefty don't use Duncan. I always use Wilson against Lefty starters because he is a better d-man and also can flatout fly along the basepaths. Plus it is nice to have Duncan available as a PH when they make the mistake of bringing in a righty. If you want a challenging win use the cards.

[JBH3]

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I am 20 games into a season . I am the tribe. I have setup the sliders to get some very realistic games and outcomes. I generally have to scrap and really work hard to win games against my division foes. Generally realistic games. If anything I am getting a little too good and was thinking of increasing the difficulty. I haven't yet.

Well I had to go to Bronx for a series against the yanks. Batting against them was impossible. I think I got 3 hit by Pettite. I gave up like 10 runs. Where I had been striking guys out left and right in my previous 15 games, I may have managed 1-2. I also found the same pitchers that I was succesful with were now throwing balls instead of strikes. And every single time I left anything over the plate it would get hit to the gap. All the way to the wall, perfect placement. Everytime.

Then, in a complete contradiction to previous games, I would field the ball and throw it into my cutoff man as yanks were just getting to second. Everytime they would round second and head to third. I would gun to 3rd but magically, all my throws became lazy lobs. I gave up 3 triples on plays that were simple doubles against other teams. I have found that the logic in this game usually has the A1 runners slow down and stop at 2nd if you have thrown to the cutoof man. Keeps the game more real. But not in this series.

This went on for the entire series. Heck, by game 3 I decided to tweak my sliders to even have a chance but they rolled over me easily. Nothing I did helped.

Now, I know the Yanks are a good team and should play better than some. But to make my players seem to run and throw slower and my pitchers no longer can locate anything.....this seems a little extreme. It literally felt like a different game. It was not fun. I might expect the tribe to get swept by the yanks but not in this fashion.

Anyone else seeing a big difference when playing elite teams? Again, I expect it to be harder against them....but this just felt like an entire different logic system was in place. It played like a "different" game.

Peace all! Not bashing....just asking!

I have not experienced this yet. I'm playing as the D-Rays so I opened the season against the Yanks. I won the series. In fact Kazmir shut them out in the season opener 3-0. Then game 2 they won, and Mussina pitched a gem. Game 3 I got to Pettitte, and he was done by the 3rd inning after I had scored 5 runs. I ended up winning that one 5-3.

I have pretty good sliders, and the level diffiulty I am playing on is pretty hard. Because my next series was at home versus the Jays and they swept me. Halladay struck me out 17 times, and that same game Kazmir gave up 3 HR's, two of them w/ runners on. I got beat 9-4 in that one, but the other games were pretty close.

It had to be your sliders or something. They played pretty normal against me. I had a hard time trying to strike out any yankee. I think the most I got against them was 4. Because when I played the Rangers in another series I struck out 11 w/ Casey Fossum and his eephus pitch. Plus the Rangers had real low contact ratings versus left-handed hitters.

I would check your sliders, or maybe it was just an anomoly.

[Kotter]

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I am 20 games into a season . I am the tribe. I have setup the sliders to get some very realistic games and outcomes. I generally have to scrap and really work hard to win games against my division foes. Generally realistic games. If anything I am getting a little too good and was thinking of increasing the difficulty. I haven't yet.

Well I had to go to Bronx for a series against the yanks. Batting against them was impossible. I think I got 3 hit by Pettite. I gave up like 10 runs. Where I had been striking guys out left and right in my previous 15 games, I may have managed 1-2. I also found the same pitchers that I was succesful with were now throwing balls instead of strikes. And every single time I left anything over the plate it would get hit to the gap. All the way to the wall, perfect placement. Everytime.

Then, in a complete contradiction to previous games, I would field the ball and throw it into my cutoff man as yanks were just getting to second. Everytime they would round second and head to third. I would gun to 3rd but magically, all my throws became lazy lobs. I gave up 3 triples on plays that were simple doubles against other teams. I have found that the logic in this game usually has the A1 runners slow down and stop at 2nd if you have thrown to the cutoof man. Keeps the game more real. But not in this series.

This went on for the entire series. Heck, by game 3 I decided to tweak my sliders to even have a chance but they rolled over me easily. Nothing I did helped.

Now, I know the Yanks are a good team and should play better than some. But to make my players seem to run and throw slower and my pitchers no longer can locate anything.....this seems a little extreme. It literally felt like a different game. It was not fun. I might expect the tribe to get swept by the yanks but not in this fashion.

Anyone else seeing a big difference when playing elite teams? Again, I expect it to be harder against them....but this just felt like an entire different logic system was in place. It played like a "different" game.

Peace all! Not bashing....just asking!

The exact same thing is happening to me but with the Brewers, oddly enough. I'm the Cubs and am 20 games into the season. I've had very close, realistic games against everyone but the Brewers. Whenever I play them they make every play, their pitchers are nearly unhittable, and they launch every pitch into the bleachers. It's unbelievable. This happened in the first three game series I played against them and now it's happening again.

It gets kind of frustrating when I'm having a CY Young type season with Prior and then he gets torched by the Brewers for 11 runs in 4 innings off 7 HR's. It's just really odd.

[Rob_NYY]

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It gets kind of frustrating when I'm having a CY Young type season with Prior and then he gets torched by the Brewers for 11 runs in 4 innings off 7 HR's. It's just really odd.

Why on earth would you leave him in long enough to give up all those runs?

[Kotter]

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Why on earth would you leave him in long enough to give up all those runs?

1. It's a long season and I didn't want to tire out my relievers
2. I knew whoever else came in was going to do even worse

I just finished that game. Final score was 24-5. Milwaukee ended up with 11 homeruns when I average giving up one every few games or so.

In my 5 games with MIL, the avg score has been MIL 12 - CHC 2.6
In my 16 other games, the avg score has been THEM 2.5 - Me(CHC) 3.75

I don't know why this happens, but it sure doesn't provide a fun experience. Thankfully it doesn't happen very often.

[pf8363]

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i had also experienced it with the yanks. i had the bosox and i was on a hot streak. whenever i played them though i would get killed like 20-1. after that i just started to make franckises and sim them. I made 16 franchises. the yanks won the world series EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!! they are definately stacked.

[IlliniM1ke]

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I've had some games like that against the Giants, I'm the Cardinals, they crushed me the first two games of the series and I won the 3rd game like 15-12, crazy how much offense they put up against me, I finally broke through for a win in the 3rd game though. Going into the series I was actually thinking I was going to need to kick the difficulty up or the AI hitting sliders atleast, after that series not so much!

I've owned the Cubs though, in 6 games against them this season they've yet to score a run against me. Seems like some teams are overly good and some overly bad, for the most part though the games seem to be pretty good for me. Certain teams though seem really good (Giants and Mets so far against me, I'm 1-2 against each of them), while others are just pathetic (6-0 vs Cubs and Pirates, Pirates I understand, Cubs though I'm shocked how bad they are).

[nnng07]

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Cubs though I'm shocked how bad they are

You're a Cards fan and you're shocked at how much the Cubs suck?! :wink:

[IlliniM1ke]

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You're a Cards fan and you're shocked at how much the Cubs suck?! :wink:

haha good call.

In real life I'm never shocked by how bad they suck, in this game though with all the bats they have in their lineup I expected them to put up some big time runs, hasn't happened though.

[Village Idiot]

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Hypothesis: These major blowouts are the product of one of three things: a) long road trips, b) the second game of a night/day schedule, c) a team catching fire during the game.

I got clocked around pretty good tonight playing a two game set against the Angels. I had won six straight coming into the series, but all those wins were at home (Detroit). Flying out to LA has an effect? Interestingly, the first game of the series, my starter was gassed by the 4th inning. In the second game (which was a day game, after a night game the day before) I got slammed for 15 runs, 22 hits, and 7 HRs. Is that a coincidence?

Also, it would seem that teams can actually catch fire (in the sense of the little fire graphic) during a game against you. Earlier in the year, I allowed 11 HRs and 22 runs to the Blue Jays, and when I looked at the schedule, they were now 'hot'.

[icicle22]

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Like I originally said, the Yanks caught fire against me. They were not hot when I went to NY. They were when I left.

One common denominator I seem to see is that many of us were doing really well against the CPU. I had won 5 out of 6 going into the series. Someone said they had won 6 straight. Maybe this is the way the AI is programmed to keep records in check. Perhaps there is some type of balance system in place that says "realistically no team should have more than x number of wins at this point or in a row or whatever". This puts you in a position where it wants you to lose to try to keep the realism in the standings....maybe? I don't know.

I just know I really look forward to series with the Yanks and if they are all this lob sided I will be disapointed. Keep in mind, I understand that the Yanks are likely to beat me as the Indians. But I feel if I hunker down and play real smart ball and pitch smart I should have a chance at beating them.

Up til now....it don't work that way.

And I do not have dynamic diffucylty turned on.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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Why on earth would you leave him in long enough to give up all those runs?

Agreed. Home run #4 or 5 should have been evidence that it was time to let your LR take a few blows. I thought the record was 6 (Wakefield and ****ey) but it's actually 7, though that was in 1886 off the arm of Charlie Sweeney. I'm going to guess they were inside the parkers or something.

Edit - I find it really funny the filter block AR Di-ckey's name