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  • Chetballard
    Rookie
    • Aug 2006
    • 277

    #1

    Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

    <TABLE class=message><TBODY><TR><TD>I would trade Craig Biggio, Jason Jennings and Lew Ford who i got in a deal eariler for Jason Bay and Ian Shell. I am sure Biggo will retire in MLB 2k7 since he is 41 or 42 at the end of the season.

    My line up would be if i did the trade, before the trade you can firgue it out. I wish i could see Biggo get to 3000 hits but its only a game and I doubt anything big would happen.
    I am 21-8 in my season so i am great record wise.

    2B Loretta
    CF Scott
    1B Berman
    LF Bay
    RF Lee
    3B Ensberg
    SS Everett
    C Ausums

    SP Oswalt
    SP WIlliams
    SP Bonser
    SP Shell
    SP Albers
    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    Last edited by Chetballard; 04-27-2007, 03:29 AM.
  • baa7
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 11691

    #2
    Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

    The sports sites are all yapping how Biggio should be platooned this year and shouldn't be leading off, so I say that's a no-brainer

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    • mjb2124
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 13649

      #3
      Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

      That's a no-brainer for you. The Pirates are getting ripped off.

      Bay is already a star and Snell is a very good pitcher with filthy stuff.

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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #4
        Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

        Originally posted by mjb2124
        That's a no-brainer for you. The Pirates are getting ripped off.

        Bay is already a star and Snell is a very good pitcher with filthy stuff.
        Now, now... we already know it's easy to rip the CPU off when it comes to trades. Apparently that's okay around here, so we need to be supportive of Chet. He's just doing what he can to win

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        • FocusYoMindOnDis
          Pro
          • Jul 2004
          • 727

          #5
          Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

          Originally posted by baa7
          Now, now... we already know it's easy to rip the CPU off when it comes to trades. Apparently that's okay around here, so we need to be supportive of Chet. He's just doing what he can to win

          Baa i nominate you to be the one who comes up with the house rules for trading until 2K8 comes out. Since you and i share the same feelings about raping the system...u up for it?
          Last edited by FocusYoMindOnDis; 04-27-2007, 12:11 PM.
          When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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          • baa7
            Banned
            • Jul 2004
            • 11691

            #6
            Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

            Originally posted by FocusYoMindOnDis
            Baa i nominate you to be the one who comes up with the house rules for trdaing until 2K8 comes out. Since you and share the same feelings about raping the system...u up for it?
            You know for me, it's easy. If the trade feels like one team is getting ripped off, then it's a bad trade. Also, the trade has to fill specific needs on the CPU team. You can't for example pull the trigger on a trade that sends a starter to a CPU team, when the CPU team already has a decent player starting in that position.

            One more thing: anybody seriously believe Jason Bay would EVER get traded this year in real life, and ESPECIALLY mid-season? That right there tells me the trade is wrong (nothing against you Chet - just thinking out loud). I'd say a realistic rule would be no trading starters, only bench players, once the season has started. And no trading starting pitchers, other than maybe fourth or maybe just fifth starters
            Last edited by baa7; 04-27-2007, 10:08 AM.

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            • GZ2525
              Rookie
              • May 2006
              • 64

              #7
              Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

              You should void the trade just because the Pirates don't have a pitcher named Ian SHELL

              and the Bucs would never trade Bay this year and probably not Snell. Especially for Biggio, they wouldn' need him at all

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              • FocusYoMindOnDis
                Pro
                • Jul 2004
                • 727

                #8
                Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                Originally posted by baa7
                You know for me, it's easy. If the trade feels like one team is getting ripped off, then it's a bad trade. Also, the trade has to fill specific needs on the CPU team. You can't for example pull the trigger on a trade that sends a starter to a CPU team, when the CPU team already has a decent player starting in that position.

                One more thing: anybody seriously believe Jason Bay would EVER get traded this year in real life, and ESPECIALLY mid-season? That right there tells me the trade is wrong (nothing against you Chet - just thinking out loud). I'd say a realistic rule would be no trading starters, only bench players, once the season has started. And no trading starting pitchers, other than maybe fourth or maybe just fifth starters
                I agree, but i will say this about starters or rotation pitchers...if they seem to be in need of a new place to play...take a pitcher like Pelfrey, he is struggling but not really in need of another location to play. But i did feel that he needed to be sent down...but i did not want bring up Pedro yet (wanna wait till august). And i certainly didnt wanna rape the system to get some pitcher that i would never feel comfy pitching with knowing that i stole him thru some flawed AI. So i traded Chan Ho Park, straight up for Shawn Chacon and put Chacon in the fifth starter spot...i felt that those two were interchangeable...but never would i go for a player who you know would never be on your team unless the media has rumored him to be trade bait...perfect example is D. Willis...he is a top flight starter, but for a good price you can have him.

                Its wild though, its not real life but a certain part of you feels bad that you are doing it...some people are like to hell with morals im stealing whoever for whatever i can get him for.
                When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #9
                  Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                  Originally posted by baa7
                  One more thing: anybody seriously believe Jason Bay would EVER get traded this year in real life, and ESPECIALLY mid-season?
                  I'll even go a step further.....Neither Bay or Snell is going anywhere. The Pirates are trying to build around those guys. Bay being the nucleus of the offense and Snell being the "ace" or top of the rotation starter.

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                  • Tribe1
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 474

                    #10
                    Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                    Since I was going to ask a similar question I will just ask it in this post. Is this a fair trade, Tampa Bay giving up Rocco Baldelli and a minor league pitcher to get D-Train from the Marlins? I got offered this deal in my Rays franchise and it would help my team, but I don't want to take advantage of the CPU.

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                    • baa7
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11691

                      #11
                      Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                      Originally posted by FocusYoMindOnDis
                      i traded Chan Ho Park, straight up for Shawn Chacon and put Chacon in the fifth starter spot...i felt that those two were interchangeable
                      I would agree with that - seems like a fair trade. I'd even say the CPU got the better of that one

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                      • baa7
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11691

                        #12
                        Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                        Originally posted by mjb2124
                        I'll even go a step further.....Neither Bay or Snell is going anywhere. The Pirates are trying to build around those guys. Bay being the nucleus of the offense and Snell being the "ace" or top of the rotation starter.
                        Good points - exactly what I was getting at with Bay.

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                        • baa7
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11691

                          #13
                          Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                          Originally posted by Tribe1
                          Is this a fair trade, Tampa Bay giving up Rocco Baldelli and a minor league pitcher to get D-Train from the Marlins?
                          Me, I would say no. A trade for Dontrelle would probably net the Marlins one or two good players plus some top prospects - they got Hanley Ramirez from the Red Sox for Beckett, for example. One problem here though is there are no top prospects in the game, are there? Another thing: I don't recall the Rays ever trading for big-name players with big-name player salaries... if one is going to get that technical.

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                          • Chetballard
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 277

                            #14
                            Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                            I dont think I will trade for bay, it helps alot but it doesnt make alot of sense. I like to keep things realstic as much as I can. When the season is over there are alot of good free agents, that I can try to sign. They would also take ensberg instead of Biggio.

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                            • chriscf10
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 118

                              #15
                              Re: Is this a good trade or not..I would have to get rid of Biggio

                              Biggio is also a 5/10 player (5years with same team and 10 years of MLB service) which enables him to veto any trade.

                              Now, ask yourself this, would Biggio approve a trade to the Pirates?

                              I think that would answer your question.

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