Which do you use Zone or pinpoint?

[C-Bus]

I have been messing around with some slider sets and have created a really good set but I still can't get my era and pitching stats to be realistic. Right now I have a 2.95 team era and lead the league in all pitching stats except strikeouts and avg. against. I need to find a way for them to hit more consistently, they crush my mistakes but I don't make many. With the zone style, if I miss a little with one I can make cover for it by missing a little with the other. So it I would have missed over the plate I can make it low, etc. I remember my problem with payoff was I could alway nail it even on 100 and then there was no change as my pitcher got tired. What are you all doing?

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Which do you use Zone or pinpoint?

Isn't it payoff pitching, not pinpoint? Not sure.

Anyway, whatever it is, that is what I used. I find it more realistic, honestly. I don't know why, but I'm not "pinpoint" with that mode. I can get in a small area, but the exact spot all the time. I'm perfect probably once every 4 pitches. And I think that's pretty realistic. Major League pitchers don't often miss horribly. So I get plenty of balls using that. I still don't get a LOT of walks, but more than I do with zone.

If I use zone, I hardly ever threw balls, since if I was off it was a meat pitch up the middle. Got crushed a lot, but NEVER walked anyone.

[Trevytrev11]

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Regardless of what speed I had Payoff set to, I could spot about 90%-95% of my pitches until late in the game when my pitcher became very tired. It was just too easy. Also, it seemed that no matter where I located the pitch, if my icon was perfect the hitter would swing and miss. (The logic doesn't make sense because a hitter has no idea where your aiming, so a purspose pitch down the middle is the same as a mistake down the middle to the hitter).

With zone, I find that I miss my pitches a lot more (even if it's just by a little bit), which to me is much more realistic. My team ERA jumped from the mid 2's to the low-mid 4's once I made the switch. I walk more hitters and find the pitching frustrating, which is what it should be when your pitchers off.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Which do you use Zone or pinpoint?

Regardless of what speed I had Payoff set to, I could spot about 90%-95% of my pitches until late in the game when my pitcher became very tired. It was just too easy. Also, it seemed that no matter where I located the pitch, if my icon was perfect the hitter would swing and miss. (The logic doesn't make sense because a hitter has no idea where your aiming, so a purspose pitch down the middle is the same as a mistake down the middle to the hitter).

With zone, I find that I miss my pitches a lot more (even if it's just by a little bit), which to me is much more realistic. My team ERA jumped from the mid 2's to the low-mid 4's once I made the switch. I walk more hitters and find the pitching frustrating, which is what it should be when your pitchers off.

I have found in Payoff that if you hit it perfect the ball breaks more on a breaking ball. To each his own I guess. Maybe it's because I don't want to be pinpoint that I don't hit it perfect all the time. I'm just a little off, but it results in good pitch counts. I normally run my starter up to about 90 pitches in 6-8 innings. With zone though, I either was spot on, or it was a meat ball. No middle ground. Almost never threw balls. I think it's more about what you can do. I also just had problems seeing the zone interface at times, and if I brought in a new pitcher I was doomed. And I occasionally wanted to bean a batter (in retaliation) and couldn't do it in zone - it kept being a meat pitch.

[bulls23]

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I use Zone pitching all the time with a speed setting of 70. I wish they would bring back the meter next year.

[Scream]

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The problem with Pinpoint is some stadiums have white billboards behind home plate, making it near impossible in Behind Pitcher mode, to see the lines as they go out and start back in. Comerica Park has this problem.

[macsomjrr]

Re: Which do you use Zone or pinpoint?

I use Zone pitching all the time with a speed setting of 70. I wish they would bring back the meter next year.

I was a fan of meter back in the day but i've grown to love the default pitching style of 2K7