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  • StevenSeagalsLipitor
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 277

    #1

    So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

    Something that bothered me a ton last year is that you couldn't tell which pitch was thrown until it was too late you pretty much had to guess. Is there a way like in MVP that helps you distinguish the pitch?>
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  • PVarck31
    Moderator
    • Jan 2003
    • 16869

    #2
    Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

    Originally posted by StevenSeagalsLipitor
    Something that bothered me a ton last year is that you couldn't tell which pitch was thrown until it was too late you pretty much had to guess. Is there a way like in MVP that helps you distinguish the pitch?>
    Agree 100% this bothered me alot last year. I really hope its fixed.

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    • Rooneyeleven1
      Rookie
      • Jul 2007
      • 92

      #3
      Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

      well i could see how that could be a cool addition to 2k8....but i think if we want realism then it should be up to the hitter to know the count situation and pitch "could" be coming... how real is it to know the pitch every time?

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      • bowlerguy92
        MVP
        • Feb 2005
        • 1034

        #4
        Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

        Ya pretty much everything comes in straight until its about a foot away from you and then it makes its break. Made watching pitches for me incredibly hard.

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        • funky_chicken
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 3282

          #5
          Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

          I'm glad I am not the only one who was having trouble distinguishing which pitch was coming. It made for frustrating times.

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          • EnigmaNemesis
            Animal Liberation
            • Apr 2006
            • 12216

            #6
            Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

            Well they also have different camera angles for hitting and pitching, that was not shown in those videos. So that might help some if the problem as well.
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            • sergiomaverick
              Rookie
              • Dec 2005
              • 145

              #7
              Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

              Well obviously they need to make the pitches easier to see and break more realistically BUT adding some kind of pitch "tipoff" or color indicator is the wrong way to go if you're looking for realism. What's the point in playing SIM baseball if you know what pitch is coming instantly.

              I always thought that feature was lame in MVP 2005 and kept it turned off. Real MLB hitters don't have the benefit of seeing a red/blue/green glow around the ball to let them know what pitch is coming.

              I will say this......all baseball games need to do a better job of have the CPU throw the correct pitches in the correct situations.

              If I'm the hitter and the count is 3-1.......odds are in real life most pitchers are going to throw you a fastball, especially if they have a good one.

              Yet in baseball games over the years, you are no more likely to recieve a fastball than any other pitch.

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              • MalaysianMagic
                Rookie
                • Jan 2008
                • 1

                #8
                Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                Sergio...i agree with you that there's no color that tips the hitters off...but they do have other things to help them, like the release point or some other nuances that the pitchers may have. the color coding was probably the closest representation that EA could think of at the time

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                • EnigmaNemesis
                  Animal Liberation
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 12216

                  #9
                  Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                  Breaking pitches, just need to break a little earlier. Especially those slow curves some have.

                  But obviously and ace who has super late break, Mo with his late breaking cutter, and such will be harder to pick up.

                  But for those who are not, it should be more noticeable.

                  Then again, if it was too noticeable (in RL), everyone in baseball would be hitting over .500 now wouldn't they?

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                  • King Gro23
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2548

                    #10
                    Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                    yea i kno the curve was the same as a 4seam until it hit about 55 ft and i think the pitch break is way to fairy talish it would go super slow and break a ton... perfect example a slow curve or slurve was amazing.. knuckleballs couldnt move on there a slow 2 seam was like a Japan league screwball they just dont have that sharp break to em or the correct speed ( well like feel of speed)
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                    • Skyboxer
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 20302

                      #11
                      Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                      I also had the problem of seeing the pitches. My main issue was that there is hardly any (if at all) depth perception in the 2K pitching while batting. I 'd swing at a ball that looks middle to slightly low and I'd swing only to have the ball actually be 4 inches off the ground. Visually you can not tell the height of the ball easily. At least that was my problem. Maybe not everyones.
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                      • Trevytrev11
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 3259

                        #12
                        Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                        Originally posted by sergiomaverick
                        Well obviously they need to make the pitches easier to see and break more realistically BUT adding some kind of pitch "tipoff" or color indicator is the wrong way to go if you're looking for realism. What's the point in playing SIM baseball if you know what pitch is coming instantly.

                        I always thought that feature was lame in MVP 2005 and kept it turned off. Real MLB hitters don't have the benefit of seeing a red/blue/green glow around the ball to let them know what pitch is coming.

                        Yeah, but in real life the hitter can recognize the spin or rotation of the ball and even the arm/hand motion of the pitcher which is a benefit hitters have in real life. In video games, the release point on every pitch is the same for a given pitcher and there are no seams to read especially when the ball is about 1/4 of an inch in diameter on the screen. In real life, from the second the pitcher releases the pitch (maybe evebn slightly before) a good hitter knows what pitch it is. Hitters are taught to look for the "dot" to recognize a slider or a breaking ball. This is what the system in MVP attempted to recreate. And if you noticed some pitchers were very good at hiding the ball so you never got to read the pitch, while others were very readable.

                        When every pitch has the same spin, how can one determine if it is a fastball or a slider?

                        And while I agree the AI throws rediculous pitches in certain counts (2-0 curveball to my pitcher with 2 outs and nobody on???), what about when your playing a human opponent?

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                        • StevenSeagalsLipitor
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 277

                          #13
                          Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                          Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                          Yeah, but in real life the hitter can recognize the spin or rotation of the ball and even the arm/hand motion of the pitcher which is a benefit hitters have in real life. In video games, the release point on every pitch is the same for a given pitcher and there are no seams to read especially when the ball is about 1/4 of an inch in diameter on the screen. In real life, from the second the pitcher releases the pitch (maybe evebn slightly before) a good hitter knows what pitch it is. Hitters are taught to look for the "dot" to recognize a slider or a breaking ball. This is what the system in MVP attempted to recreate. And if you noticed some pitchers were very good at hiding the ball so you never got to read the pitch, while others were very readable.

                          When every pitch has the same spin, how can one determine if it is a fastball or a slider?

                          And while I agree the AI throws rediculous pitches in certain counts (2-0 curveball to my pitcher with 2 outs and nobody on???), what about when your playing a human opponent?
                          Ya remember that Pepsi commercial with Griffey and Sosa, he realized it was a fastball right away then he thought about Sammy taking his pepsi, its instinct.
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                          • BadKermit
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 482

                            #14
                            Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                            Originally posted by Skyboxer
                            I also had the problem of seeing the pitches. My main issue was that there is hardly any (if at all) depth perception in the 2K pitching while batting. I 'd swing at a ball that looks middle to slightly low and I'd swing only to have the ball actually be 4 inches off the ground. Visually you can not tell the height of the ball easily. At least that was my problem. Maybe not everyones.
                            You're not the only one. Hopefully, the batting is challenging enough that we don't have to crank up the pitch speed to get realistic box scores. If the pitch is coming in a little more slowly, maybe we'll be able to recognize the pitch more easily.
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                            • krazzed
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 301

                              #15
                              Re: So is there anyway to distinguish pitches?

                              I think a good idea for pitch type would be have like a small arrow spin around the ball in a diagonal form (the way the seams spin on a curveball) for a curveball. And for a fastball have it go from the top and spin around the bottom fairly quickly so it is visible but it doesnt give it away 100%

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