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Re: Inside the Numbers of Major League Baseball 2K8
My major question is why isn't Cole Hamels rated better than it may look, just wondering about that, he is a stud pitcher, and has proved it, just wondering he wasn't in the 87's or 88?Philadelphia Phillies
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Re: Inside the Numbers of Major League Baseball 2K8
I still have the spreadsheet and don't know if I can just put it out there. What I can do is answer questions about specific ratings. I'll do them as I have time and I make no guarantees to get to all requests.
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Hey TJ Can you tell me what Indians 2B Asdrubal Cabrera is rated? Thanks!!Comment
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Kush,
are Legends like Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle going to be in the game?
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I think people fail to realize that players must progress and decline.
Phillips may be rated lower than Kent but by year two in a franchise he'll be better than him. Chances are strong.
And the ratings are going off of 3 (maybe 4 years). Can anyone here really say that Phillips has been better than Jeff Kent over the past 3-4 years?
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You know, every year and every sports title I deal with the same doubts in my mind about players who are rated 100. I guess you could argue they are rated in relation to the players in the league in the year they are being rated. However to me a 100 player indicates a player with absolutely no flaws. In other words, for every category you break a rating down into they are perfect in each one. I don't think you can find that even in the greatest players of all time.
If you do take the argument that they are being rated in relation to the other players in the league for that particular year why is A-Rod not a 100? Who had a better regular season at the plate than him last year? He played a great third base as well. I could see shaving points off his defense from two years ago when he had a really off year defensively. Where are the 2 points coming from that make him a 98 for this year though? Unless of course they have a rating for post season performance. That's not really possible since you can't rate players for that if their teams didn't make the playoffs. I know there is often a "clutch" rating, but for the most part he came up big in clutch situations last year. And like I said, you can't fault him for failing in the clutch in the post season since you can't compare him to every other player in the league. Even so, he wasn't really the cause of the Yanks demise last post season. Jeter choked in the clutch last post season numerous times, but I'm sure his clutch rating is sky high...as it should be since normally he is very clutch.
Some will say the ratings are likely based off a certain number of recent years...let's just arbitrarily say the last three years. I don't buy this either. Year in and year out young players who have a break out year are rewarded with ratings sometimes going into the 90s. Why does this not occur when an older player has a great year? Case in point, Jorge Posada's 84 rating. Contrast Posada's numbers in the big three categories with the player right above him, Brian Mccann:
Posada ...338 20 90
Mccann...270 18 92
And you can't go with a difference in throwing arms. Posada threw out 23% and Mccann 21%. Both remained healthy all year too..so forget the injury rating. If you want to throw the argument about ratings based on recent years into this consider that Mccann's 06 stats looked just like Posada's 07 stats and Poada's 06 numbers nearly mirrored Mccann's 07. On top of that Posada has consistently put up around a .270-.280 average with about 20-25 homers and near 100 RBI for years now. Mccann has had two full seasons in the bigs. This illustrates perfectly the discrepancy I feel these ratings place on older players year in and year out. Other than an injury factor, which isn't the case for Posada, I can't see rating a guy as consistent who is coming off a career year lower than a younger guy like Mccann. It isn't likely, but for all we know Brian Mccann could be out of the big leagues in a couple years. Again, no disrespect, he looks like a good player, but we've all seen it happen.
Anyways, I didn't mean to turn this into a Yankee discussion nor am I just being a Yankee fan boy. It's just the team I'm most familiar with. I'm simply ranting on all this stuff to display what I feel is the absurdity of giving players ratings of 100, and the general lack of consistency in ratings. Not just in baseball, but in all sports games. I guess it's something we'll have to deal with though. These games are not being made by sports analysts. In the end, I'll take a great game with a hand full of questionable ratings over a crappy game where the players are rated nearly perfectly. In the case of these ratings it's just that...a few questionable ones. Nothing looks completely absurd like in NBA Live this year so I can live with it.Last edited by budsticky; 02-19-2008, 02:18 PM.Comment
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Some off the top of my head
Posada should be higher
Mo IS still better than Wagner and Papelbon might be better than both
Becket is to low too(should be ahead of some of those other guys)
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Sorry for how messy this looks but this is copied and pasted directly from the spreadsheet...
Hitting2BVsLHP Hitting2BVsRHP Hitting3BVsLHP Hitting3BVsRHP HittingHRVsLHP HittingHRVsRHP HittingLHP HittingRHP HittingBunting HittingBuntingForHit HittingOutByKO HittingOnByBB PlateDiscipline FieldingCatching FieldingAnticipation FieldingAgility FieldingRange FieldingJumpDive FieldingArmStrength ThrowingAccuracy BlockPitch CallGame BlockPlate FieldingAbilityAtC FieldingAbilityAt1B FieldingAbilityAt2B FieldingAbilityAt3B FieldingAbilityAtSS FieldingAbilityAtLF FieldingAbilityAtCF FieldingAbilityAtRF RunningSpeed RunningAggressiveness RunningAttentiveness Stealing Acceleration Pitching1Type Pitching1Speed Pitching1Control Pitching1Movement Pitching1Likelihood Pitching2Type Pitching2Speed Pitching2Control Pitching2Movement Pitching2Likelihood Pitching3Type Pitching3Speed Pitching3Control Pitching3Movement Pitching3Likelihood Pitching4Type Pitching4Speed Pitching4Control Pitching4Movement Pitching4Likelihood Pitching5Type Pitching5Speed Pitching5Control Pitching5Movement Pitching5Likelihood PitchBB PitchingBB PitchingSO Pitching2BVsLHB Pitching2BVsRHB PitchingHRVsLHB PitchingHRVsRHB PitchingStamina Pickoff Composure PitchingAgainstLHB PitchingAgainstRHB PitchingRole PitchingSuggestedRole Salary ContractLength Clutch InjuryRating SeriousInjuryRating Durability
As you can see, there are quite a bit of variants in terms of ratings here. So, I'm not going to be posting the complete ratings for anyone, just overall for anyone requested. I'll get to those already posted within the next few minutes.Comment
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I don't care about th three year average or whatever. These are terribleComment
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