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  • catcatch22
    Or should I
    • Sep 2003
    • 3378
    #1

    Generated Counts

    Does anyone have any info on if this game can generate counts for online and franchise play.

    If you don't follow what I mean, High Heat baseball 2002 for the PC had an option to have the ball and strike counts be automatically generated. Like say you set up to the plate and the count would be 3-2 and you face the 3-2 pitch or it would generate a 2-1 count.

    This would be really cool to have this feature in online games or during a franchise to get in alot of games in online leagues or franchise, as well as quell the you threw a ball too many times stuff when playing online.
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    • porkchop
      Rookie
      • Feb 2004
      • 203
      #2
      Re: Generated Counts

      I remember the generated counts feature in HH. I understand why people like it, but I thought it was a little silly personally.
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      Russell_SCEA> It's not our job to make a reviewer do his homework and actually play the game to see all the changes, additions, and tweaks we make every year. If he/she is lazy that's on them not us.

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        • Bamboospine1998
          Pro
          • Aug 2004
          • 452
          #3
          Re: Generated Counts

          All star Baseball had that feature as well. I actually liked it. It saved a little time playing, not much, and it was cool because with ASB there were no sliders. I found that the power hitters were so good (60 HR+ power) that it was easier to get them out and helped get some of the power numbers more realistic.

          Also it made the number of walks more realistic. Drawing walks or pitching them. I have never really had any success getting a game set where number of walks are in line with real MLB.

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            • bowlerguy92
              MVP
              • Feb 2005
              • 1034
              #4
              Re: Generated Counts

              Interesting idea.......never played those baseball games of the past though tragically.

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203
                  #5
                  Re: Generated Counts

                  Great idea that I would love as an option but at this point in gaming it shouldn't even be necessary. You know?
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • Cardot
                      I'm not on InstantFace.
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6164
                      #6
                      Re: Generated Counts

                      Yeah, ASB had it. I liked it because it trimmed game time down. It was the only baseball game I ever made it through 162 games. I set it up for a 2-1 count. As Bamboo said, there were alot more walks that way. Games took about 20 minutes to get through. So I could sit down for an hour and get a series in, instead of just one game.

                      In 2K5, there was a "cheat" in the skybox that you could start the count with a strike or two.....and another cheat for the batters that started each count with a couple balls. So in the past it was possible....not sure if is still there??

                      The biggest problem was pitch counts. If the game doesn't count the "generated" pitches, then the counts will be too low. If the game does count them, then the pitch counts get to high.

                      I can understand why the hardcore sim guys are repulsed by generated counts. But for those of us in the 80% sim category, it is a great feature.

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                        • catcatch22
                          Or should I
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3378
                          #7
                          Re: Generated Counts

                          Actually it would be more realistic if the counts were generated off of real pitch take and hitter aggressiveness stats.

                          For example, when Todd Zeile was Met in the 2001 season. Elias Sports Bureau had him as the player with the most pitches seen per at bat. Zeile I believe saw at least 5.xx pitches per at bat.

                          That I believe can't be done with the normal batter pitcher interface but with generated counts you would get a more realistic amount of pitches per batter if the counts were generated in that fashion.

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