Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

**BaseballCtchr** · 03-11-2008, 11:19 PM

Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

I am not sure yet.

I have had the game where the zone is tight but for most the zone is an extra baseball size around the "strike zone"

LP · 03-11-2008, 11:21 PM

Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

I don't really see any variability. It would be nice to see an ump with a really small zone once in a while.

**Bahnzo** · 03-12-2008, 12:35 AM

Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

Originally posted by whatdog

I don't really see any variability. It would be nice to see an ump with a really small zone once in a while.

There's umps with small zones...I just had one. By small I mean unlike the usual umps, this one wasn't calling strikes on balls that "just" caught the zone. You had to get a good portion of the ball in the zone for it to be called.

LP · 03-12-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Bahnzo

There's umps with small zones...I just had one. By small I mean unlike the usual umps, this one wasn't calling strikes on balls that "just" caught the zone. You had to get a good portion of the ball in the zone for it to be called.

Yeah, I saw a smaller zone for the first time tonight. The ump wasn't giving the pitchers the extra inch on the corners. I wish that the strike zone was at least that small all the time. I drew three walks, and walked two.

**Lisa_Bonami** · 03-12-2008, 09:39 PM

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wow this is really fantastic to hear....Im wondering if this is a placebo effect or are we really seeing this?....I know the game actually lists the names of the umps for each game, im wondering if the same umps seem to stay consistent with their style of strike zones?

Also besides wide and tight, has anyone noticed any other style of variability like just high or low...or some that call the inside or outside stuff exclusively?....any other observations

this is cool to hear

LP · 03-12-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami

wow this is really fantastic to hear....Im wondering if this is a placebo effect or are we really seeing this?....I know the game actually lists the names of the umps for each game, im wondering if the same umps seem to stay consistent with their style of strike zones?

Also besides wide and tight, has anyone noticed any other style of variability like just high or low...or some that call the inside or outside stuff exclusively?....any other observations

this is cool to hear

Just played Mets @ Braves, Maine vs Glavine. The ump called a very tight zone. Glavine had trouble throwing strikes, because they weren't calling the low corners. He didn't have any velocity and was yanked in the 5 after giving up a two run shot to Church on a change he left up. Maine walked three after 6. It really opened things up on the offensive end with a smaller than normal strike zone.

**SFGiantsPBA** · 03-12-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami

wow this is really fantastic to hear....Im wondering if this is a placebo effect or are we really seeing this?....I know the game actually lists the names of the umps for each game, im wondering if the same umps seem to stay consistent with their style of strike zones?

Also besides wide and tight, has anyone noticed any other style of variability like just high or low...or some that call the inside or outside stuff exclusively?....any other observations

this is cool to hear

No placebo, some of these Umps are blind while others are tight.

I have had Umps call Balls as a K, I mean a Ball that missed the whole zone and then I have seen them call K's for Balls and I mean dead on K's a Ball!

I don't care what anybody says this is hands down the best baseball I have ever played, better then High Heat, MVP and The Show!

**MaricopaMetFan** · 03-12-2008, 11:36 PM

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I just finished a Sox - Tigers game where pitches that were less than half way inside the strike zone lines got called as balls.

**Bahnzo** · 03-12-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami

I know the game actually lists the names of the umps for each game, im wondering if the same umps seem to stay consistent with their style of strike zones?

I suggested in another thread that it would be interesting if someone was to keep track of the umps and their strike zones to know for sure if they are consistent. Not that I'm about to undertake that task........

**CMH** · 03-12-2008, 11:45 PM

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Definitely variable umps and ones with zones smaller than the generic strike zone.

Also, it was mentioned once that umpires will tailor to your location. You can stretch the zone over the course of the game by consistently hitting your spots and inching away.

Definitely saw this as a tight umpire started giving me the high portion of the plate later in the game.

And to answer Lisa's question, the umpires have unique personalities. In 2k7, if you remembered their names then you could tell which guy would ahve a certain zone. I would imagine this stayed in 2k8 but with all of the little things taken out (fans reaching for foul balls, nice looking grass) I wouldn't be surprised if it was removed.

**sportyguyfl31** · 03-13-2008, 06:58 AM

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^^^ I noticed this last night..early in the game the ump would not give me the corners on my slider..but as the game evolved and I retired a few batters in a row..when I got to the 5th or 6th inning, I started getting the borderline pitch now and again.

Ive also had the reverse happen. When I've missed my spots and couldnt get a call to save my life.

**qpc123** · 03-13-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by sportyguyfl31

^^^ I noticed this last night..early in the game the ump would not give me the corners on my slider..but as the game evolved and I retired a few batters in a row..when I got to the 5th or 6th inning, I started getting the borderline pitch now and again.

Ive also had the reverse happen. When I've missed my spots and couldnt get a call to save my life.

i think that it does have a lot to do with how your performing also. but they do vary game to game i've had pitches called balls that easily 3/4 in the strike zone on several occasions.

**Pared** · 03-13-2008, 10:18 AM

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There most certainly are variable umps with different strike zones.

**opd897** · 03-13-2008, 10:59 AM

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I agree with Pared. This game has obvious variable umpiring. Last night played a game where the ump consistently called pitches strikes that were completely outside the strike zone, not even touching the strike zone lines. I have the strike zone visible post pitch and it was clear to see. First time I had seen that. Have had other games that pitches will be called balls by the ump that were clearly in the strike zone.

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