Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

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  • harsh128
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 61

    #16
    Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

    One thing the umps cant get right is the check swings. Every time i check the 3rd/1st ump always blows the call. really pisses me off.

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    • LP
      Johnny Canuck
      • Dec 2004
      • 1279

      #17
      Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

      Originally posted by harsh128
      One thing the umps cant get right is the check swings. Every time i check the 3rd/1st ump always blows the call. really pisses me off.
      I have yet to check. Every time they say I went around.

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      • Saint19
        Rookie
        • Sep 2003
        • 222

        #18
        Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

        Originally posted by whatdog
        I have yet to check. Every time they say I went around.
        I've never had a problem with that. I get both types of calls with the check swings for both myself, and for the CPU.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #19
          Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

          I think there is an option for umps to blow calls.

          I've seen checks go both ways but if you don't want that maybe you can turn off the option.

          Then again, I'm not even sure it's still in the game and like all those other options now gone why would it still be there?
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          • bulls23
            Banned
            • Jan 2007
            • 1740

            #20
            Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

            :wink:
            Originally posted by opd897
            I agree with Pared. This game has obvious variable umpiring. Last night played a game where the ump consistently called pitches strikes that were completely outside the strike zone, not even touching the strike zone lines. I have the strike zone visible post pitch and it was clear to see. First time I had seen that. Have had other games that pitches will be called balls by the ump that were clearly in the strike zone.
            I had this guy last night too. His name is Richard something....or you can call him "Dik":wink:

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            • bulls23
              Banned
              • Jan 2007
              • 1740

              #21
              Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

              Look out for Richard "Dick" Krause. That guy needs some glasses.

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              • mazhirui
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                • Jul 2003
                • 577

                #22
                Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                Yeah, I see a decent amount of variability, especially with pitches outside and/or low. This is actually quite realistic, because umpires are taught to line their eyes up with the inside edge of the plate and the top of the batters strikezone, so higher and/or inside pitches are easier for them to call than outside/low.

                Also, has anyone ever gotten the chance to argue a call? I never have, not once in 2K7, not yet in 2K8 (and I definitely have the setting turned to "on").
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                • BigH2k6
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 256

                  #23
                  Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                  Originally posted by mazhirui
                  Yeah, I see a decent amount of variability, especially with pitches outside and/or low. This is actually quite realistic, because umpires are taught to line their eyes up with the inside edge of the plate and the top of the batters strikezone, so higher and/or inside pitches are easier for them to call than outside/low.

                  Also, has anyone ever gotten the chance to argue a call? I never have, not once in 2K7, not yet in 2K8 (and I definitely have the setting turned to "on").
                  I've had an arguments with umps before when my pitcher was ejected for plunking 2 battters is a game. The computer has alos argued a call but can't remebr what it was.

                  On the subject of ump variability, I had one instance last week where I struck a batter out and with the over the plate view, the pitch was a good 2 inches, if not more of the plate outside

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                  • Lisa_Bonami
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1293

                    #24
                    Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                    I also have noticed that the UMPS are really bad and blow the calls at even the slightest check swing when I use the CLASSIC SWING feature ( button press )

                    It happens so frequently that I dont even think its a featured variability design...I think the programming was just not designed to allow the hitter much range of check swing motion before calling it a swing

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                    • Chitown1211
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 762

                      #25
                      Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                      Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami
                      I also have noticed that the UMPS are really bad and blow the calls at even the slightest check swing when I use the CLASSIC SWING feature ( button press )

                      It happens so frequently that I dont even think its a featured variability design...I think the programming was just not designed to allow the hitter much range of check swing motion before calling it a swing

                      I disagree. Maybe Im just good at checking my swing, but I get just as many checks called "no swings" as I do "strikes". It varies just like the umps.

                      I actually think theres a coralation between the two. It seems like whenever you have an ump with a wide strikzone the base umps seem more forgiving on check swings.

                      I dont know how many different umps there are, but there are definately a lot. Ive seen tight, wide, low, high, and different variations of these strikezones.

                      I used to think most zones were too big, but now that baseball is back the K zone shows how wide some umps zones are. I have routinely seen balls 4-5 inches off the plate called strikes.
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                      • xxjgbxx
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 694

                        #26
                        Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                        i deff noticed this, a few games ago i had a ump that wouldnt call any strikes on the bottom corners i was so pissed i threw over my catchers head trying to hit the ump to send him a message

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                        • Lisa_Bonami
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1293

                          #27
                          Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                          Chitown, are you referring to the CLASSIC SWING mode? ( button press for swings and check swings)

                          I have no problems checking my swing with the Swing Stick 2.0....I just think the check swinging in the classic hitting mode is a little too unforgiving.

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                          • Bahnzo
                            Can't spell antetokounmpo
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2809

                            #28
                            Re: Are there VARIABLE UMPIRES...yes?...no?

                            Originally posted by Lisa_Bonami
                            I also have noticed that the UMPS are really bad and blow the calls at even the slightest check swing when I use the CLASSIC SWING feature ( button press )

                            It happens so frequently that I dont even think its a featured variability design...I think the programming was just not designed to allow the hitter much range of check swing motion before calling it a swing
                            I don't think it's a range, I think it's a dice roll. If you watch replays, sometimes there's no way you cross the plate and it's called a strike, and other times you clearly do and it's a ball. The same with the CPU. And it's almost always called a strike, like 75% of the time it seems, although the CPU seems to get more favorable calls....to the point it's annoying.
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