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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #16
    Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

    This is good news but how good remains to be seen. Losing Brinkman hurts but getting VC back should potentially be much more rewarding than having Brinkman and Kush together.

    I don't know how 2K fans/360 owners will handle it though of 2K9 is yet another "we're starting from scratch" version. The game has basically been a mess since 2K5 but there's a very good foundation with 2K8 in place but it needs a lot of tweaking and fixing. If the code is as old as some say then perhaps it's best to kill the old code and build from the ground up.

    And I'm PRAYING they bring back the cursor hitting. If they do, the moment they announce it's back in the game I will be out the door re-purchasing a 360.
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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #17
      Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

      I don't see them being able to do too much for 2k9. Hopefully I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like they'll have enough time with the code if they reuse it, considering it isn't theirs.

      Very difficult to step into a game where it's already built and you have to make existing changes to it. VERY difficult.
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      • Trevytrev11
        MVP
        • Nov 2006
        • 3259

        #18
        Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

        Originally posted by Pared
        I don't see them being able to do too much for 2k9. Hopefully I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like they'll have enough time with the code if they reuse it, considering it isn't theirs.

        Very difficult to step into a game where it's already built and you have to make existing changes to it. VERY difficult.
        This is my fear as well, but look at the jump made from 2K6 to 2K7. I believe this is when Brinkman originally came on and they had the shortened cycle becuase they came on a little late.

        I wouldn't mind seeing 2K9 as only a polished, properly working, 2K8 if it meant a brand new VC engine for 2K10. Hell, if they fixed the stolen base bug, and updated rosters next year for 2K8, I could live with this game for next year.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #19
          Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

          But wasn't Brinkman one of the only guys that were new from 2k6 to 2k7? He gave them a general direction and the guys who knew about the code implemented it. On top of that... 2k6 was just terrible.

          If you ask me it's about time that VC took over the baseball reigns. Kush has always had a sub-par product when it came to baseball. Blue Shift had something going really well and it was just all downhill from there. I'm mostly referring to the gameplay... SlamZone... ugh. Graphically I liked what they did with the game up until 2k7.
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          • daflyboys
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 18238

            #20
            Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

            That's funny....I always thought Kush was defunct from the beginning.

            Good read.

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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42527

              #21
              Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

              Originally posted by Pared
              SlamZone... ugh.
              Haha, I completely forgot about this feature.

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #22
                Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                Originally posted by Blzer
                Haha, I completely forgot about this feature.

                "What were they thinking?!" - Angry Video Game Nerd
                LOL, that was probably the worst feature ever to be put in a baseball game. I remember the Jeter interview (when he was the coverboy) and he said something along the lines of, "Baseball really slows down when you're in the zone and get your pitch," he must have been cringing so bad having to say that and knowing how awful the feature was in the game.
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                • DubTrey1
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1023

                  #23
                  Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                  High hopes I guess....but either way, whatever they end up doing with the series, let's hope it is leaps and bounds over what we had this year. CH2k8 is awesome, as well as NBA2k8. VC has their work cut out for them - atleast for those who have a PS3 I guess. The Show 08 is stellar and I can only assume next year will be even more of the same from SCEA. I would venture a guess, now that more PS3 consoles are now in home with the release of GTA IV, more gamers have a choice as to which MLB game they will be playing for 09 vs what the market was for 08.
                  Truly Blessed -

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                  • DrJones
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 9109

                    #24
                    Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                    Originally posted by ehh
                    LOL, that was probably the worst feature ever to be put in a baseball game. I remember the Jeter interview (when he was the coverboy) and he said something along the lines of, "Baseball really slows down when you're in the zone and get your pitch," he must have been cringing so bad having to say that and knowing how awful the feature was in the game.
                    Yeah, right. Like coverboys (with the rare exception of hardcore gamers like Schilling) have any idea whatsoever about the game that's paying them money.
                    Originally posted by Thrash13
                    Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                    Originally posted by slickdtc
                    DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                    Originally posted by Kipnis22
                    yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                    • DrJones
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 9109

                      #25
                      Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                      Originally posted by StriderNo9
                      This needs a brand new redo, take 2 years if you need but dont give us the same code, brand new engine.
                      Under the exclusivity agreement, 2K is obligated to put out new MLB products every year by certain dates, or they have to pay MLB and the PA very large fines (I assume EA has similar obligations to the NFL). It would be nigh-impossible to remake the game while still hitting those dates. A more likely scenario would be to work on 2K9 with the existing engine while a separate team worked from the ground up. When I was at EA, there were 2 dev teams (or at least 1.5) working on Triple Play 2002 and MVP 2003 simulataneously, so it's possible. I have no idea what 2K plans to do, however.
                      Originally posted by Thrash13
                      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                      Originally posted by slickdtc
                      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                      Originally posted by Kipnis22
                      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                      • e0820
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2070

                        #26
                        Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                        So is it safe to assume that the PS3 will never recieve a patch for MLB2k8? or does anyone believe VC will throw the PS3 a bone?

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                        • brendanrfoley
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1552

                          #27
                          Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                          Originally posted by DrJones
                          A more likely scenario would be to work on 2K9 with the existing engine while a separate team worked from the ground up. When I was at EA, there were 2 dev teams (or at least 1.5) working on Triple Play 2002 and MVP 2003 simulataneously, so it's possible. I have no idea what 2K plans to do, however.
                          This may already be happening. I mean, what else has Blue Castle been doing for the last year since The BIGS shipped?

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                          • LBzrule
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 13085

                            #28
                            Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                            I hope they take the player models from the Bigs and just tweak them a little bit. I liked those player models alot.

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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9109

                              #29
                              Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                              Originally posted by brendanrfoley
                              This may already be happening. I mean, what else has Blue Castle been doing for the last year since The BIGS shipped?
                              None of your business.
                              Originally posted by Thrash13
                              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                              Originally posted by slickdtc
                              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                              Originally posted by Kipnis22
                              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                              • CaptainZombie
                                Brains
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #30
                                Re: Visual Concepts will make MLB 09 and NHL 09

                                Originally posted by brendanrfoley
                                This may already be happening. I mean, what else has Blue Castle been doing for the last year since The BIGS shipped?
                                Lets hope this is true.
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