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  • wookie48
    Banned
    • Apr 2007
    • 1842

    #1

    PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

    Okay, so I bought this game for like $12.00 to get a good baseball sim since I really dont like the arcade approach of the show and 2k8 sucks so bad I want to head butt a knife. This game in fact is pretty phenominal in al ton of aspects that I forgot about. Dont know how but MLB2k7 is WAAAAAY better than 2k8. So this inspired me to do a game rehaul on the rosters and I have to say these are coming along VEEERRRYY nicely. I am loving how this looks. I played a game rays VS Sox and I got all excited again. So, I am working on getting these down pat and I will send this out. Just a feeler, who else would want these rosters? Release looks to be wedsday.
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  • RAZRr1275
    All Star
    • Sep 2007
    • 9918

    #2
    Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

    Originally posted by wookie48
    Okay, so I bought this game for like $12.00 to get a good baseball sim since I really dont like the arcade approach of the show and 2k8 sucks so bad I want to head butt a knife. This game in fact is pretty phenominal in al ton of aspects that I forgot about. Dont know how but MLB2k7 is WAAAAAY better than 2k8. So this inspired me to do a game rehaul on the rosters and I have to say these are coming along VEEERRRYY nicely. I am loving how this looks. I played a game rays VS Sox and I got all excited again. So, I am working on getting these down pat and I will send this out. Just a feeler, who else would want these rosters? Release looks to be wedsday.
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    Mlb the show being arcade? In which way? That's a sim
    My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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    • baa7
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 11691

      #3
      Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

      Originally posted by wookie48
      I really dont like the arcade approach of the show
      And down is up and white is black. And dogs meow and cats bark.

      Whatever **** you're smoking, I want some.

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      • e0820
        MVP
        • Jan 2003
        • 2070

        #4
        Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

        Originally posted by wookie48
        Okay, so I bought this game for like $12.00 to get a good baseball sim since I really dont like the arcade approach of the show and 2k8 sucks so bad I want to head butt a knife. This game in fact is pretty phenominal in al ton of aspects that I forgot about. Dont know how but MLB2k7 is WAAAAAY better than 2k8. So this inspired me to do a game rehaul on the rosters and I have to say these are coming along VEEERRRYY nicely. I am loving how this looks. I played a game rays VS Sox and I got all excited again. So, I am working on getting these down pat and I will send this out. Just a feeler, who else would want these rosters? Release looks to be wedsday.
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        Always welcome rosters, but the gameplay isnt very realistic (I would say The Show is 110% more sim then 2k) hopefully you dont get disappointed after doing your rosters.

        You are right though 2k7 is better then 2k8 (atleast on PS3, dont know about 360) I do like the pitching in 2k8, however I am terrible at it.

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        • wookie48
          Banned
          • Apr 2007
          • 1842

          #5
          Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

          Woah! sounds like alot of SCEA employees in here. I dont know guys, its just the way it feels to me. The show IS a great game. Maybe I should of bactracked the statement and made it clearer. It just has last generation written all over it. I mean look at the main categories I look for in the game.Motion Capture- Does it represent what the atheltes do and does it look like them. In the show, the faces granted they look awesome. But the rest of them is PS2 body physique. I mean its terrible. Running motion capture in both games look aweful. The show has players feet moving 100mph and the 2k series just looks flat out ********. Like a bunch of BELO bodies running around. Batting in both games looks terrible. 2k swings dont look at all natural, and the shows little hop step swing is not either. 2k has awesome sig stuff on athletes. The show not so much. Gameplay- The show has smoothe gameplay. FPS is pretty good. But really, it should be because there isnt anything in the game that has wowed me. Stadiums look like an HD presented PS2 game. Honestly. I think 2k has a big preoblem with FPS, but you cant fault them for what they included in 2k7. Progrssive lighting, rainouts, crowd interactions, foul boys. So take that for what its woth. I the show, the gameplay is reall slow to me. To turn a quick double play is a prayer, and it just seems to me there is no sense of urgency on the defense. Offense wise, I hate the hit variety. I mean man. Pitching with the meter is old and never did feel right to me.2k did a lot of things right that its a shame graphics and FPS took a huge hit. I loved 2k8s gameplay with its ability to take out the double play, throwing animations, and what not. I do hate the base stealing bug though.Graphics- 2k7 had awesome graphics. I just hate the textures. Something that the show does very well. Like youkilis, that dudes beard in the show 08 looked sweet. It looked like hair. In 2k and all players for that matter. It looked like the hair was pasted on. Hated that. Player models are light years better in 2k7 than either of the shows. Faces in the show are light years ahead of 2k8. Pretty close in 2k7 though. Again, dont know how this took a backslide. Stadiums kinda look pretty in this years show, but the back drop looks very PS2. I dont know, if the show had more realistic backround for stadiums, and the flags didnt look PS2ish then maybe. Progressive lighting and more deverse weather is a must have and 2k did an allright job with it in 2k7. 2k8 blew trucks. Also, the jumbo tron in 2k is awesome. Its totally interactive and neat. The show has a reall boring, last gen feel to it.Sound- 2k has the best crowd and baseball noises. Too bad its not tuned to be one with the game. Crowds dont react more to situations and overall, it looks as though someone got lazy. But the sound of it is awesome. People talking, airplanes flying, boats sounding the horn, and the chants are real good. The show, while having crowds reacting right, sounds bad. The chants and all that are last gen to me. Some sounds are sweet, but it kind sounds tacked on instead of doing a whole new sound bite for next gen. both games have terrible bats sounds, I guess of the two, 2k has the better one. The show has better game SFX though, with ball popping mits and players running into things. The show has the best presentation by far. The players come to life and its a thing of beauty. 2k has a long way to go to make this even compare. I dont know what the issue is, but player animations and little cutscenes like the show has would take this game to another level. Commentary everyone knows about and I cant stand to even here miller and morgan on tv let alone a video game. I though they would have tossed them out with jeter, guess not and thats why brinkmans canned. Matt Vasgersian is a commentary stud. Love hearing hiim broadcast.These are what excite me on a video game. And while 2k8 sucked to high crap, 2k7 was a decent offering. (Although I hate the parachute pants on there!) The show is a goo game,but it looks and feels old to me. Sorry, imagine what kind of argument we would be having IF 2k had made 2k8 with 2k7 graphics, lighting and all that, with the 2k8 gameplay, smooth all around 60 FPS, and the stealing worked with new commentary cast and presentaion. 2k would have been hands down the champs. But since they are a mediocre run business and have no ambitious minds in the whole organization, were stuck with back, forwards, back forwards so on and so on. At least until EA makes a baseball game and I am not 100% sure they would be better at it. Would eb better than 2k though for sure.

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          • baa7
            Banned
            • Jul 2004
            • 11691

            #6
            Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

            Originally posted by wookie48
            Woah! sounds like alot of SCEA employees in here. I dont know guys, its just the way it feels to me. The show IS a great game. Maybe I should of bactracked the statement and made it clearer. It just has last generation written all over it.
            Okay, that's fine. But what about FPS Baseball '98 or any game in the High Heat or Hardball series? Those games were pure sim, so much so that no baseball game since has come close to replicating them in that department. The Show still doesn't even have pitchers' versus L&R ratings, for goodness sakes.

            Arcade to me is a game like Triple Play, or MLB 2K7 for that matter in which every other swing is either a long fly ball or a home run... which BTW was the overwhelming consensus with that game, and why most people gave up on it after a couple of weeks. If you can somehow fix that, then you're definitely on to something.

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            • baa7
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 11691

              #7
              Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

              Originally posted by wookie48
              IF 2k had made 2k8 with 2k7 graphics, lighting and all that, with the 2k8 gameplay, smooth all around 60 FPS, and the stealing worked with new commentary cast and presentaion. 2k would have been hands down the champs.
              Funny what different people look for and what makes or breaks a game for them. Never once while playing 2K8, did I give a thought to the graphics or the fact the crowd didn't go after fly balls like they did in 2K7. What I saw was a half-broken, obviously untested, glitchy, stuttering video game running on a game engine that should have been scrapped 3-4 years ago.

              IMO, until 2K makes a committment to completely overhaul this series and start again from the ground up -- and with competent, knowledgable programmers this time -- then improved lighting and 60 FPS isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. The core game stinks, bottomline, and they ain't gonna fix that by prettying it up with lipstick.

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              • wookie48
                Banned
                • Apr 2007
                • 1842

                #8
                Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                Oh yea, I am with you def on this one. 2k7 and 2k8 both somehow came way short of the mark. Which is again why brinkman is canned hopefully along with the whole team that worked that project for their lack of dealing with their broken game and answering /'s to us. I thought 2k7 had a ton to grow on with a pretty good foundation. Homeruns were hit all the time but these are tweaks that can be made in the engine. I thought perhaps a new physics engine was needed but the progressive lighting and the player models, equipment and graphics were great. I thought they were only gonna get better. But somehow, someway brinkman and his staff managed to take a step Waaaayy back and develope 2k8. Which again has a good foundation for gameplay and sig styles for players and other cool features. But it casts some year one game problems. Its like they had a foundation, scraped it and started over. FPS is a stupid issue, especially when COD4 and deadspace are ran beautiful, oh well. I just cant believe they actually released the game and thought, " yep, this is good work fellas, take a vacation, yall deserve it"

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                • myghty
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2395

                  #9
                  Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                  Originally posted by wookie48
                  I just cant believe they actually released the game and thought, " yep, this is good work fellas, take a vacation, yall deserve it"
                  This made me giggle cause its probably true!
                  "In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened." - Vin Scully

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                  • ckarlic
                    So Real!!
                    • May 2003
                    • 4999

                    #10
                    Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                    Originally posted by wookie48
                    Woah! sounds like alot of SCEA employees in here. I dont know guys, its just the way it feels to me. The show IS a great game. Maybe I should of bactracked the statement and made it clearer. It just has last generation written all over it. I mean look at the main categories I look for in the game.Motion Capture- Does it represent what the atheltes do and does it look like them. In the show, the faces granted they look awesome. But the rest of them is PS2 body physique. I mean its terrible. Running motion capture in both games look aweful. The show has players feet moving 100mph and the 2k series just looks flat out ********. Like a bunch of BELO bodies running around. Batting in both games looks terrible. 2k swings dont look at all natural, and the shows little hop step swing is not either. 2k has awesome sig stuff on athletes. The show not so much. Gameplay- The show has smoothe gameplay. FPS is pretty good. But really, it should be because there isnt anything in the game that has wowed me. Stadiums look like an HD presented PS2 game. Honestly. I think 2k has a big preoblem with FPS, but you cant fault them for what they included in 2k7. Progrssive lighting, rainouts, crowd interactions, foul boys. So take that for what its woth. I the show, the gameplay is reall slow to me. To turn a quick double play is a prayer, and it just seems to me there is no sense of urgency on the defense. Offense wise, I hate the hit variety. I mean man. Pitching with the meter is old and never did feel right to me.2k did a lot of things right that its a shame graphics and FPS took a huge hit. I loved 2k8s gameplay with its ability to take out the double play, throwing animations, and what not. I do hate the base stealing bug though.Graphics- 2k7 had awesome graphics. I just hate the textures. Something that the show does very well. Like youkilis, that dudes beard in the show 08 looked sweet. It looked like hair. In 2k and all players for that matter. It looked like the hair was pasted on. Hated that. Player models are light years better in 2k7 than either of the shows. Faces in the show are light years ahead of 2k8. Pretty close in 2k7 though. Again, dont know how this took a backslide. Stadiums kinda look pretty in this years show, but the back drop looks very PS2. I dont know, if the show had more realistic backround for stadiums, and the flags didnt look PS2ish then maybe. Progressive lighting and more deverse weather is a must have and 2k did an allright job with it in 2k7. 2k8 blew trucks. Also, the jumbo tron in 2k is awesome. Its totally interactive and neat. The show has a reall boring, last gen feel to it.Sound- 2k has the best crowd and baseball noises. Too bad its not tuned to be one with the game. Crowds dont react more to situations and overall, it looks as though someone got lazy. But the sound of it is awesome. People talking, airplanes flying, boats sounding the horn, and the chants are real good. The show, while having crowds reacting right, sounds bad. The chants and all that are last gen to me. Some sounds are sweet, but it kind sounds tacked on instead of doing a whole new sound bite for next gen. both games have terrible bats sounds, I guess of the two, 2k has the better one. The show has better game SFX though, with ball popping mits and players running into things. The show has the best presentation by far. The players come to life and its a thing of beauty. 2k has a long way to go to make this even compare. I dont know what the issue is, but player animations and little cutscenes like the show has would take this game to another level. Commentary everyone knows about and I cant stand to even here miller and morgan on tv let alone a video game. I though they would have tossed them out with jeter, guess not and thats why brinkmans canned. Matt Vasgersian is a commentary stud. Love hearing hiim broadcast.These are what excite me on a video game. And while 2k8 sucked to high crap, 2k7 was a decent offering. (Although I hate the parachute pants on there!) The show is a goo game,but it looks and feels old to me. Sorry, imagine what kind of argument we would be having IF 2k had made 2k8 with 2k7 graphics, lighting and all that, with the 2k8 gameplay, smooth all around 60 FPS, and the stealing worked with new commentary cast and presentaion. 2k would have been hands down the champs. But since they are a mediocre run business and have no ambitious minds in the whole organization, were stuck with back, forwards, back forwards so on and so on. At least until EA makes a baseball game and I am not 100% sure they would be better at it. Would eb better than 2k though for sure.

                    And to quote one of the announcers in the SHow (forget his name but it is very annoying)...."ummmmmm...ok????" I guess its all a matter of personal taste but MLB2k8 and 7 dont feel right.
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                    • wookie48
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1842

                      #11
                      Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                      Eh, like I was trying ot say. I like 2k for its gameplay potential. The swing stick, pitching mechanic, throwing mechanic, equipment detail, and signature styles are awesome. The rest of the game is garbage to me. The show is aweosme in player faces, presentation, animation and gets the little things in basbeall. The rest of the game is butt to me. I just wish the two could merge and we would have a winner.

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                      • ghm125
                        john14:6
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2439

                        #12
                        Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                        Originally posted by baa7
                        And down is up and white is black. And dogs meow and cats bark.

                        Whatever **** you're smoking, I want some.

                        VIOLATION!!!!!!!!

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                        • andrewz23308
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 139

                          #13
                          Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                          Wookie, I would definately be interested in these rosters. I will probably pick up the game once you have the rosters done.

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #14
                            Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                            Originally posted by baa7
                            And down is up and white is black. And dogs meow and cats bark.

                            Whatever **** you're smoking, I want some.
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                            • wookie48
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                              • Apr 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: PS3 MLB2k7 Way better than 2K8, Roster project on the way

                              Yep, that was about as classic as aids.

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