Things MLB 2k does better than the Show?

[jeffy777]

Re: Things MLB 2k does better than the Show?

I personally think the ONE thing they are doing right but maybe not necessarily better.....

If you don't even think there is one thing that's definitely better, then you obviously haven't looked at it in a fair light. As we said, even just the customizable pitching/batting cams are certainly better. There isn't anyone who wouldn't want that added to The Show.

[wabash97]

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I've only played The Show for a few moments, and avoided 2k8, but from videos and brief experiences, one thing I like about 2k is the feeling of weight on a pitched ball, and also on the batter's swing. Hit variety/physics are tough to gauge from videos, but the ball in The Show looks "light" to me, as does the bat. I really like the bad swing animations I've seen in the 2k videos, where the batter is lunging or off-balance swinging at an outside pitch and it sort of deadens the bat.

A pitch like the cutters looks "heavy" in 2k, and I think the pitch breaks in 2k give more of a feeling of weight than in The Show.

It's hard to tell if hit variety in general will be better, but I think there's something there to work with that could make the pitching/batting experience better than in The Show, which has never felt natural to me. (I played The Show 07 PS2 extensively, and like I said, sampled 08).

[Pared]

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The pitching animations are incredible. From the windup to the way they receive the ball from that catcher... just incredibly well done.

[DickDalewood]

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If you want to play a game and stare at clouds for hours on end, play Tiger Woods.

Haha but I want it in a baseball game dammit!!!

[baa7]

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MLB 09 is going to be a utter dream to play

Hey, and I dream of playing MLB 09, one day when I get a PS3. We have something in common, sort of.

[mike360]

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MLB '08 The Show is your best bet. That's been a solid game of baseball since '06. MLB 2K is up in the air. This thread is kind of a f'd up concept though. Ultimately, only you can decide what game you'd wanna play.

[areobee401]

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This is a great time to be a PS3 and 360 owner. Two what seem like quality baseball titles that offer something different from the other.

[Full_Collapse]

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The real-time camera is amazing.

[theaub]

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Does 2K still let you edit contracts/player potential? That's a definitive plus.

As I said in The Show forum (not sure how it ended up there), I think the real time thing kicks ***. Once they get a little more dev time to make the animations completely fluid (ie in the first vid, Schumaker sprints back to the batters box after hitting a foul ball and just stands there instead of picking up his bat etc), I think that is going to be amazing.

Also the sig styles, especially for pitchers, are superior.

Oh, and the fully interactive baserunning seems pretty cool.

[phillyfan23]

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1) HRs are more suspenseful......in the Show sometimes a HR that clears the seats by 3-4 rows will have the announcers and crowd acting as if it's a 450 ft shot.

2) pitchers fielding hot shots and sometimes getting nailed with them. The show pitchers will field slow to medium hard hit grounders, but NEVER a line drive.....

I hit one shot that travelled thru hamels jaw in the show, in real life he's gone 2 months or more

3) Real time- absolutely beautiful...nothing more to say really.

4) More slider customization- I don't know if this will lead to a tighter gameplay, but at least we have the tools to make it better than out of the box

This question will be much better asked 2-3 days after 2k's demo IMO....because until now, we really don't know how the gameplay of 2k will match up with the Show's.

peace

[Scottdau]

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Both games have their ups and downs. The key is to find the game that have more ups than downs for you. I like what 2k is doing. I love the real time effects and I love the scoreboards working in the Show.

The 2 biggest things for me is you can edit player accessories and Timmy!

[tapout8302]

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I like that in 2K most real prospects are in the game but with different names. The just have the same initials so its pretty easy to find them and edit names.

Although one thing i did like about the shows franchise eventhough i never really got into it was that you could recruit players from other countries like Japan, Puerto Rico etc.

[stlchamp10]

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Baseball Atmosphere:2k<The Show*Yes, the 2k real-time is a very good feature but there are times when you see players do a animation then just stop. Looking like he forgot what to do next. In all the videos I've seen they all have basically done the same thing like, showing runners on base, players running back to the plate, pitcher close-ups, ect... Homers still feels like they hit a single instead of a homerun in 2k. Crowds will be quiet at times when players are running the bases after hitting one. This is where the show over powers 2k in atmosphere. Late in ball games when your pitcher has 2 strikes on a batter, the crowds gets really loud and cheers til the batters out. Also when hitting a HR in the show the fans really make you feel you accomplished something. They cheer very loudly and won't stop til after the first pitch is thrown on the next batter. Just like in real life. Crowds are much better this year on 2k as they finally go after the ball. Overall they got a huge makeover and it nows looks like a real crowd. Again though this is where the show has them beat. Though you will prolly see more duplicate fans more on the show than 2k. The shows crowd keeps moving with pace of the game, you see people walking up and down the stairs and around the ball park. Heck you ever see venders this year doing the same thing. Thier are mascots this year which is a nice tough and you can even record your own chants and hackles and it will sound like its coming from the crowd. We won't touch on the lighting progression as the show will most definaltely win that battle.Player Models:2k=The ShowThere are so many things that both do right and wrong they even out the same. Show's models have to big of shoulders and short arms. 2k models look they had the flu over the weekend. I do like the over all realness of 2k's models but some people look like WWE wrestlers. The Show's betters look like they all have broken wrists. So it really evens out for me with 2k having a little edge with the way the base model player looks like. Though the uniforms look way better on the show as with faces. The show captures the faces to a tee and even have the stadium reflect off of the helmets and change when the lighting changes.Gameplay:Haven't been able to compare so this gets answered on release.Franchise and over-all feel.2k<The Show2k has always done a good job with this. The MLB.com menus are better than the show's. 2k has the upperhand with Minors and having people in their with the same initials so you can give them thier real name. Also 2k has the homerun derby at the all-star break which is huge for me and with the real-time should be awsome. Though the show gets the edge this year with adding 40-man rosters, Waivers, arbitration, rule 5 draft, ect... Both should be fun though.Commentary:2k>The Show (debatable)While the show's is fantastic and gives the great over-all feel, it tends to get repetitive after a while but has tons of information and acknowledges records, HR's being hit throughout the year, saves, and pitcher wins. With 2k's new announce team, they flow really well together and are non stop. Though again debatable because of disk space and not listening enough of them through 2min videos. 2k right now gets the push on this.Overall presentationToo early to tell as we have not seen a whole gamefrom 2k yet or the show. But if I had too pick now it would be the show with 2k creeping up, FAST.Overall this year, we will have to go with the show. 2k has totally flipped the game around and made 2min previews of 2k9 make the whole 2k8 game look like a sega game.I have not gone through everything I wanted too. But I'm done typing for now, lol. So there is my opinion on things.

[cocobee]

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Let's keep a civilized discussion going guys, I'm liking this thread so far.

- If the name bank feature works this year, that's one feature that works in 2K's favor, not only compared to The Show, but compared to every other publisher on the market. Truly one of 2K's greatest innovations ever since it was introduced in College Hoops 2K3.

- I've never been a fan of the right-analog pitching myself (prefer the classic option) but I've grown to love the Swing Stick and won't go back to button hitting anytime soon, unless I decide to fire up the old Xbox and give MVP2005 a whirl.

- RTLW and Virtual Director, definitely. Don't get me wrong, I love the cutscenes in The Show (especially the "bored player" cutscenes when you leave the controller idle), but 2K has stepped it up BIG TIME in this department. Give it one more year and MLB 2K may just surpass ESPN NFL 2K5 in terms of presentation.

- Alternate and retro uniforms. I know, pretty trivial thing to compare, but 2K has a lot of them. Oh well, had to bring it up.

- Early to tell from this point, but commentary could be a big deal. The Show may have a slight edge here because of the space of Blu-Ray Discs and the amount of commentary Sony can stuff onto one. Gary and Steve, though, are tremendous...so far. Lots of informative and substantial stuff.

- Minor league integration in 2K8 had the edge, but only having the AAA teams playable in 2K9 is a drawback. It also helps that Minor League stadiums are in the game as well.

- Crowd chatter is MUCH better in 2K7 and 2K8 (haven't heard it yet this year). Yes, another trivial point, but whenever I hear something like "Double-A Betemit!", "Hey, hit it to Windsor!" or "You're a traitor, Damon!", I start laughing my arse off.

Could you clarify name bank feature?

[Rocky]

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I've never had a more frustrating online experience than I have with The Show. I love that game to death, but it saddens me to see it go to crap online.