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  • Trevytrev11
    MVP
    • Nov 2006
    • 3259

    #16
    Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

    Originally posted by sirwoodz
    -
    but cmon...the CROWD not reacting to the situations 100% of the time? homeruns off the end of the bat? the baseball bat sounds? NONE of these complains i'd EVER heard about until I started surfing 2k forums. not a one.
    Part of it is people are spoiled by how far sports games have come in the last 10 or so years. They have come to expect things that weren't possible a few years down the road.

    Another part of it is you go between two games and you see that one game did something perfect and it's wrong in the other game, so you think "well if the other game gets it right, why shouldn't this one". If The Show has a team celebration in the middle of the diamond after a game winning hit and in MLB 2K8, they act like it's just any other game, you feel like you are being cheated out of something that you know is possible. Plus you play the game for that moment and it happens and there is no reward for it.

    Finally, baseball is just a different animal than other sports (maybe I'm biased here), but all football, soccer, basketball fields and courts are the same dimensions, while each field is unique when it comes to wall dimensions, heights, materials, etc. Crowds are different, the atmosphere is diffent, etc.

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    • ExtremeGamer
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      • Jul 2002
      • 35299

      #17
      Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

      Simple.. People like to complain or be the one to find issues in games. Everyone wants to find the big bug or problem and somehow gain Internet fame for it.

      But in the end, it's because people like to complain and nitpick.

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      • Trevytrev11
        MVP
        • Nov 2006
        • 3259

        #18
        Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

        Originally posted by FocusYoMindOnDis
        I feel that people here go into these games way deeper than the average fan.
        Absolutely 100% true. This is a site for the hardcore sports gamers.

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        • DaveDQ
          13
          • Sep 2003
          • 7664

          #19
          Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
          Simple.. People like to complain or be the one to find issues in games. Everyone wants to find the big bug or problem and somehow gain Internet fame for it.

          But in the end, it's because people like to complain and nitpick.
          I agree, but the one thing I haven't been able to put my finger on is why they do it. It's not just gaming. You can take any subject and some just go to that level of nitpicking that's very interesting to me.
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          • FocusYoMindOnDis
            Pro
            • Jul 2004
            • 727

            #20
            Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

            Originally posted by Trevytrev11
            Absolutely 100% true. This is a site for the hardcore sports gamers.
            But that is not a bad thing.
            When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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            • sirwoodz
              Rookie
              • Mar 2007
              • 240

              #21
              Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

              Originally posted by Tomba
              No to mention the underanlyzing of MLb The Show 09...
              .
              - if THE SHOW were on the 360 and PC, that game would get scrutinized to the high heavens. believe that.

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              • FocusYoMindOnDis
                Pro
                • Jul 2004
                • 727

                #22
                Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                Originally posted by sirwoodz
                - if THE SHOW were on the 360 and PC, that game would get scrutinized to the high heavens. believe that.

                i don't think people are underscrutinizing the show, in fact because of the serous amount of love, u can expect many people to dig in on that game and attempt find flaws. The thing is with that game is that the flaws are not hard to find, but what the game does well WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overshadows what it does bad. The 2k series cannot say that.
                When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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                • sirwoodz
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 240

                  #23
                  Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                  Originally posted by FocusYoMindOnDis
                  But that is not a bad thing.
                  - it's not a bad thing, but it's also a bit of a copout sprinkled with some exaggeration...go over to the tiger woods forum, or NCAA basketball forum...

                  one guy is complaining over at tiger woods that the game is too easy (which it is lol) and somebody gave him a code to make it tougher! there is a big gripe list on NCAA's forum and the gripes are legit! on the court gameplay problems, graphical problems etc etc...

                  people aren't sitting around "oh man, the grass doesn't look that green on tiger woods! look at this screenshot of last years game!!" "why don't their sneakers sound real on the court!!"

                  that's my thing...but like somebody said, wait until the demo/game is released and we will go from there.

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                  • jeffy777
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3323

                    #24
                    Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                    Originally posted by deucepoppi17
                    but i think the "honeymoon" of next-gen is way past us
                    No kidding. The 360 is over 3 years old now and the PS3 almost 2. I think we can start calling the games made for thses systems "current gen"

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                    • sirwoodz
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 240

                      #25
                      Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                      Originally posted by FocusYoMindOnDis
                      The thing is with that game is that the flaws are not hard to find, but what the game does well WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overshadows what it does bad. The 2k series cannot say that.
                      - now calm down a second. MLB THE SHOW has put out ONE proven next gen baseball game...MLB 07 didn't even outscore MLB 2k7 according to the critics.

                      those same critics who you probably just scoffed at, came back the next year and gave MLB 08 THE SHOW an 85% and 2k8 a 71%...pretty accurate scores In my book.

                      it remains to be seen what 2k9 and THE SHOW 09 will put on the table - but let's not act like the 2k series is a slouch, especially with what they are putting out there this year.
                      Last edited by sirwoodz; 02-23-2009, 02:51 PM.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #26
                        Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                        Originally posted by Tomba
                        No to mention the underanlyzing of MLb The Show 09...
                        Under?? UNDER??

                        People are complaining about flag animations and grass! It's awesome over there!

                        Doesn't matter the game, people complain. The difference here is the comparison about what game has "right" and what the other game "doesn't." This really leads to most of the complaints.
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                        • baa7
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11691

                          #27
                          Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                          Originally posted by DaveDQ
                          It's not just gaming. You can take any subject and some just go to that level of nitpicking that's very interesting to me.
                          It's our society.

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                          • baa7
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11691

                            #28
                            Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            Under?? UNDER??

                            People are complaining about flag animations and grass! It's awesome over there!
                            That's correct. The Show has been dissected for weeks/months. And the only reason 2K9 is critiqued like this, NOW, is because game info wasn't released until just recently, so there was nothing to critique. And NOW there is.

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                            • jeffy777
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3323

                              #29
                              Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                              Originally posted by baa7
                              It's our society.
                              Really it is. Everyone is a critic these days, for better or worse. Don't put anything out in public view if you aren't willing to take heat for it. And people just like to complain. Maybe it makes them feel better about their own faults, I don't know....

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                              • sirwoodz
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 240

                                #30
                                Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

                                Originally posted by thornie
                                It's really up to you to if you want to read their 10 paragraph dissertations on how the wind blowing in from the NW should create a particular ball trajectory that would allow for more hits up the middle on a sunny day at 3pm on a Monday at a Ballpark facing true North. In the end, you have to ask yourself what matters to YOU most as a gamer. Things like, hit variety, smooth gameplay, and immersible experience matter to me most. While other more cosmetic or "outlandish" complaints I just take with a grain of salt or ignore altogether.
                                - man this is the funniest thing i've ever read on these forums...

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