the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

[jeffy777]

Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

The End

I think if we took all your posts and put them in book format, it would be thicker than the NYC phonebook, and of course a lot more interesting too

Seriously though, good post

[kGinGreen]

Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

I try not to overanalyze it too much. I understand people have varying opinions and some people actually make good points, but a lot of the time they are just plain wrong lol.

[Eddie1967]

Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

Discussing concerns on a message board is why they exist. Could it be that you and the OP just don't like message boards maybe? I honestly don't get why peoples' opinions regarding this or that game can be so upsetting to some.

I understand and yes it does bother me. Not any criticism's but the constant chirping about head size, gloves, ads, experts on ball physics, how the bat is swung what way the ball should go, who can't hit that type of homerun in a VIDEO GAME, animations as if any other game does all of this perfectly.

[Eddie1967]

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2K5 and MVP 05 will live on forever in people's hearts because they were "killed in their prime." Opinions of their actual quality aside, the "killer" (in this case 2K baseball) will always draw some bitterness in this regard.


Now that I can agree with. Those 2 games had a following like no other games before them. Almost like cult classics because of like you said, their early deaths. I can see where some of the negativity comes from.

[SoxFan01605]

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I think if we took all your posts and put them in book format, it would be thicker than the NYC phonebook, and of course a lot more interesting too

Seriously though, good post

lol...thanks?

[jim416]

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2K5 and MVP 05 will live on forever in people's hearts because they were "killed in their prime." Opinions of their actual quality aside, the "killer" (in this case 2K baseball) will always draw some bitterness in this regard.


Now that I can agree with. Those 2 games had a following like no other games before them. Almost like cult classics because of like you said, their early deaths. I can see where some of the negativity comes from.

Nice sig, I changed mine too.

[Eddie1967]

Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

Nice sig, I changed mine too.

Yeah I kept thinking, that post says it all. I am what I am.

[bubba4]

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As one of the older gamers here I believe that the problem is mostly age related in as far as how we view games. Having played games from back in the pong days, I can appreciate fully how far we have come in sports games. A lot of the younger crowd, imo, don't fully appreciate nor understand the leaps and bounds the sports games have made. This generally extends to the way we perceive games. I feel that we are surely in the next-gen era because I can remember all of the steps that have been taken to get to this point.

Whenever I try to wow someone about how realistic the baseball games are today, I never really get the reaction I expect because most people don't know the genesis of baseball games. I'd have to first show them how games have evolved over time for them to fully understand. I can remember how blown away I was at Earl Weaver Baseball on the PC. Anyone looking at old screenshots of that game, which at the time was the best baseball game we'd ever seen to date, would have to conclude that, yes, there has been a dramatic improvement here.

Now is next-gen what we want it to be? Probably not. But that's another debate all together.
Bubba4

[Haggis]

Re: the over analyzing of MLB 2k9...good or bad sign?

As one of the older gamers here I believe that the problem is mostly age related in as far as how we view games. Having played games from back in the pong days, I can appreciate fully how far we have come in sports games. A lot of the younger crowd, imo, don't fully appreciate nor understand the leaps and bounds the sports games have made. This generally extends to the way we perceive games. I feel that we are surely in the next-gen era because I can remember all of the steps that have been taken to get to this point.

Whenever I try to wow someone about how realistic the baseball games are today, I never really get the reaction I expect because most people don't know the genesis of baseball games. I'd have to first show them how games have evolved over time for them to fully understand. I can remember how blown away I was at Earl Weaver Baseball on the PC. Anyone looking at old screenshots of that game, which at the time was the best baseball game we'd ever seen to date, would have to conclude that, yes, there has been a dramatic improvement here.

Now is next-gen what we want it to be? Probably not. But that's another debate all together.
Bubba4

HaHa-That reminds me of when I first saw the movie, The Princess Bride, when Fred Savage was rocking the baseball video game in the beginning. I thought to myself then, "Gawd, that game looks awesome! I want it!" What was the name of that game anyway...? Watching that movie now with how far tech has come I must have been on hallucinogens to think that. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, I guess. But I was always in the generational mindset of growing up with games without mlb and player licenses. Hell, Remember MLB for the nes? (Yes, that one.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNJfAVVQFIo That game had major, major, flaws but I made it playable with a lot of suspension of disbelief for that magical summer of 1988.
Ah, my mind is wandering now to the 8-bit classics...

[Smitty730]

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As a gamer, I come from the "suspend a certain level of disbelief" camp. I'm not one of those people who go to the movies and argue the science over how Iron Man can fly. He flies, end of story. Obviously we are talking about two different things, a comic character Vs. a "sports simulation". But growing up on the video games of the 80s, I just play to be entertained. I agree that there SHOULD be a discernible difference between a game like the BIGS and MLB 2k whatever, but I'm willing to bend a little over things that some here just simply won't budge on (the Markakis oppo HR)... and I'm cool with that.

I thought I'd never agree so whole-heartedly with a Mets fan, seeing as though I'm a Phillies fan

Listen, all games are going to have their problems, and I'm OK with that. I'm OK with bat sounds that sound like daddy is laying a whooping on little Billy with his work belt. I'm OK with the ridiculous amount of Pepsi signage. I'm OK with the way Prince Fielder looks, even if his video game character doesn't mimic his ridiculously fat real-life self.

Simply put, I enjoy a good baseball game if it plays well, and that's it. I want a realistic sim, one that also produces an enjoyable franchise experience. If Randy Johnson wins the Cy Young with a 14-13 record and a 4.10 ERA, I won't immediately turn off the game and declare "This game is broken! I quit!"

Just give me a game that takes me through the summer. And even with its flaws, I played four full seasons of franchise in MLB 2K8. Thus, it doesn't take much to make me happy.

[Rayvn199]

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I thought I'd never agree so whole-heartedly with a Mets fan, seeing as though I'm a Phillies fan

Listen, all games are going to have their problems, and I'm OK with that. I'm OK with bat sounds that sound like daddy is laying a whooping on little Billy with his work belt. I'm OK with the ridiculous amount of Pepsi signage. I'm OK with the way Prince Fielder looks, even if his video game character doesn't mimic his ridiculously fat real-life self.

Simply put, I enjoy a good baseball game if it plays well, and that's it. I want a realistic sim, one that also produces an enjoyable franchise experience. If Randy Johnson wins the Cy Young with a 14-13 record and a 4.10 ERA, I won't immediately turn off the game and declare "This game is broken! I quit!"

Just give me a game that takes me through the summer. And even with its flaws, I played four full seasons of franchise in MLB 2K8. Thus, it doesn't take much to make me happy.

In turn I have to agree with the Phillies fan.. blech. Played thru the 2012 season in 2k8, had fun with it.. very few of its perceived flaws bothered me. If 2K9 gives a better presentation on a game of baseball that fun, that's is all I can ask for.

But then I am pretty new to this generation of console gaming, being 30 years old, I just got the Xbox 360 last year and picked up 2K8. Thinking back.. the last console baseball game I played was Tommy Lasorda Baseball on the Sega Genesis. I loved that game, along with Baseball Stars, and Major League and all the ones of that era. 2K8 to me was fun.. if 2K9 can be fun while adding to the presentation of baseball I'll probably be all in.

The fact that you don't just push X to pitch and Y to swing in these 2K games is enough to make it fun for me until Baseball season is over. I could care less that the Josh Beckett has a mullet or that I hit an inside pitch down the line for an opposite field homerun.

[srudoff]

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But in the end, it's because people like to complain and nitpick.

or it's because people expect a quality product for their $60