Pasta Padre video comparison of 2K and The Show: 2K hacks too much

[NEWYORICAN]

Re: Pasta Padre video comparison of 2K and The Show: 2K hacks too much

Regardless which is better, they both look like it's going to be a fun baseball game to play this year..that's all that matters...to me anyway.


I'm looking foward to both, I really like the anouncing of 2K9. Good move to remove Miller and Morgan, that was getting real old...it's a breath of freash air now with the new crew!

Both game should be different anyway, and competition is always a good thing!!

sorry for my spelling!!, I can't spell worth a damn!!

peace
Ernesto

[kGinGreen]

Re: Pasta Padre video comparison of 2K and The Show: 2K hacks too much

We know this game is going to have flaws. 2k8 was a terrible, terrible game. I'm just happy to play baseball on the 360 this year. This game should provide that with sliders. Comparing this game to the show is not really fair, because for some of us we only have one option. I know the show is better and would love to play it, but I'm not ready to plop down $550 and the reason this stuff annoys me is because its repetitive. Constructive criticism is one thing but this is just trolling. We know this stuff. I want the best game ultimately and I'm all about that but reading this stuff repeatedly is kind of unfair to people who are trying to enjoy this game, and aren't going to plop down $500. Maybe once the price drops in april.

[ChaseB]

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LOUD NOISES! *RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE*

[SoxFan01605]

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Alright gentlemen, The next person who bashes Pastapadre gets and infraction. While everyone is entitled to their opinion on his writing, it is not allowed to be voiced on this platform. There are plenty of other mediums for that.

As far as the pitch swinging/taking issue, here is my opinion on it. The issue exists. I really don't see how anyone can say that it doesn't. I do feel that it will be able to be corrected with sliders. If it isn't, then possibly a patch. I am not to worried about it. It is not a game killer for me, although I do understand how it could be for some.

Well said. The issue is clearly present. To what extent and whether or not it's fixable, remains to be seen. If it can be at least improved upon, I wouldn't call it a game killer (though if the CPU is this dumb on higher difficulty, it will be cause for concern).

Hopefully Chase (or anyone else with an early look at the final) can provide some insight as they get some time in with the game.

LOUD NOISES! *RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE*

...please let us know what you find in terms of AI plate discipline when you feel you've gotten a chance to check it out properly.

(that's the general question hiding under all the "RABBLE, RABBLE" you hear...lol)

[Woodweaver]

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LOUD NOISES! *RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE*

Sadly this is one of the more reasonable and coherent posts I've read in this forum for about a week.

Thank you, Brick.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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The fact that people need to try and find a way to MAKE the CPU take strikes should raise an eyebrow or two.

I shouldn't have to make the CPU hitter be more patient by what I am throwing. Watch any game and a large % of the first pitch to the first batter is a fastball down the middle. That's baseball. As a hitter, you see what the pitcher has to offer.

You try and do that in the demo and you'll hardly ever see the CPU take it. Again, it's a demo; That does not mean it can't be an alarming sign.

That is exactly what I said in the other thread. Why should I artificially orchestrate pitch counts.

[UGA14]

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Alright, as a pitcher of 14 years at various levels, and a watcher of all things baseball, I'm going to just say I find the pitcher/batter battle in 2k to be off. I typically ALWAYS threw a first pitch fastball. And I do not remember batters swinging every single time. I also do not remember them always putting the ball in play when they did swing.

They would whiff or foul it off. However, in 2K, there are basically no foul balls and no whiffs on fastballs. Hasn't this been a problem in the past? I've played every 2k game from about 2k5 to 2k8. It was due to this perceived unrealistic gameplay that I switched to a PS3. I still have an Xbox and have considered getting 2K, but for me the gameplay just does not match up.

That is my opinion anyways, take it with a grain of salt, and I'm out of this thread!

[Lepermessiah]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...rikes-etc.html

Padre is biased, that video is a joke, he is not even pitching properly, this video shows the AI taking a lot of strikes, even first pitch fastballs. What a joke this thread is.

No whiffs or foul balls, wow, the bs in this thread. A lot of fouls and whiffs, in that video alone, and when I play, seriosuly, many of you have no clue and just want the show to be better.

[baa7]

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many of you have no clue and just want the show to be better.

Someone named SeveralDifferentMetallicaUserNamesGuy said the same thing the other day. You wouldn't happen to be him, would you?

[Lepermessiah]

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Someone named SeveralDifferentMetallicaUserNamesGuy said the same thing the other day. You wouldn't happen to be him, would you?

Watch that video, it is fair, unlike padres, and the Ai is taking a lot of strikes, fact. Just watch that video and then tell me Padres pitching half velocity and over the plate in MLB 2k, then pickign corner sin the show is not biased?

Could it be better? yep, is it being way overblown? yep. CPU takes a fair amoutn of strikes, as that video shows. Major league hitters will whack everytime at a slow fastball coming down the middle.

[SoxFan01605]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...rikes-etc.html

Padre is biased, that video is a joke, he is not even pitching properly, this video shows the AI taking a lot of strikes, even first pitch fastballs. What a joke this thread is.

No whiffs or foul balls, wow, the bs in this thread. A lot of fouls and whiffs, in that video alone, and when I play, seriosuly, many of you have no clue and just want the show to be better.

Well I see the 2K defense team has a new recruit...lol

Jokes aside, please stop. The issue may not be as bad as some say, or people may find different aspects of it problematic or not...that's fine. You going around constantly trying to discredit anyone that says anything remotely questioning the AI in this is as bad as people who repeatedly blow it out of proportion.

You can choose to ignore the fact that for most people it's not right, but the fact remains. The AI is off to many of us. It may be as simple as the demo build is older, or dificulty, or whatever. If you have to pitch any certain way to make the AI actually be intelligent at the pate, then I have an issue with it and it only confirms my concern that tying it solely to IE was a dangerous choice.

None of us know anything concrete about the issue at this point for the final build. Your little crusade is coming off as trollish as those you condemn.

[baa7]

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Watch that video, it is fair, unlike padres, and the Ai is taking a lot of strikes, fact.

I was more impresesed with the video of the CPU taking strikes than I was with PP's video. He seemed to be tossing them over the plate in 2K9, and throwing balls in The Show. You and others have a valid point. Now maybe stop getting so upset about it and others might be inclined to listen.

[Lepermessiah]

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Well I see the 2K defense team has a new recruit...lol

Jokes aside, please stop. The issue may not be as bad as some say, or people may find different aspects of it problematic or not...that's fine. You going around constantly trying to discredit anyone that says anything remotely questioning the AI in this is as bad as people who repeatedly blow it out of proportion.

You can choose to ignore the fact that for most people it's not right, but the fact remains. The AI is off to many of us. It may be as simple as the demo build is older, or dificulty, or whatever. If you have to pitch any certain way to make the AI actually be intelligent at the pate, then I have an issue with it and it only confirms my concern that tying it solely to IE was a dangerous choice.

None of us know anything concrete about the issue at this point for the final build. Your little crusade is coming off as trollish as those you condemn.

Defense brigade? The video just shows that padres video is a farce, the only defense brigade are people defendign that biased pile of dung video. You DO NOT need to pitch a certain way, who said you did? Yes, if you throw fat meatballs all day guys will swing, thats all padre proved, in that video 3 straight batters take first pitch fastballs for strikes.

I said it could be better, but fact remaisn, terribly overblown by a certain portion of gamers.

[baa7]

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If you have to pitch any certain way to make the AI actually be intelligent at the pate, then I have an issue with it and it only confirms my concern that tying it solely to IE was a dangerous choice.

That looks like the real issue here: that the CPU might not swing at borderline strikes only, but will always swing away at anything over the plate.

[Lepermessiah]

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I was more impresesed with the video of the CPU taking strikes than I was with PP's video. He seemed to be tossing them over the plate in 2K9, and throwing balls in The Show. You and others have a valid point. Now maybe stop getting so upset about it and others might be inclined to listen.

Thats the point, I am not here the defend 2k, I own both a PS3 and 360, so at the end of the day i could care less, but I am sick of so much biased for the show, and the number of people going out of their way for some reason to try and find anything to complain about with MLB, yet 2k can do no wrong? Something is not right, that much is obvious. Sorry, I lost allr espect for padre, what do you expect when one game your pitching corners, the other your throwing the same pitch at half velocity over the middle over and over? The release it and say it shows how better the show is? What is up with that?