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  • catcatch22
    Or should I
    • Sep 2003
    • 3378

    #1

    Pitching is TOO EASY!!

    No company can get this right except High Heat. You should not be able to throw a strike any time you want. It ruins the game.

    In High Heat even when you tried to throw a strike you pitcher would miss the plate forcing you to throw a ball. Now no matter what I will never throw a ball unless I want to. That is not sim.

    There needs to be a system where you just can't throw a strike on command or at least not have soo much accuracy.

    Please on the next patch make the pitching icon on the hardest difficulty level move as though your pitcher is uncomposed. As of right now I can place my pitch anywhere I want reguardless of changes to the sliders.

    Make the pitch icon shake all the time and more violently for bad pitchers. The top pitchers it shakes a little. As of right now it is WAY TOO EASY!
  • Qb
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 8797

    #2
    Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

    Cat, I saw this in Bahnzo's slider thread and thought it might be of a little help. I haven't even played the game yet, so I can't vouch for it personally, but it makes sense in theory. I agree wholeheartedly that there needs to be some sort of variable pitching mechanic...

    Originally posted by Bahnzo
    And..I had a nice break thru tonight with pitching....both for human and CPU. Gonna do some more testing on the CPU part, but if you are finding it too easy to pitch to the CPU, zoom the pitching camera as far back as possible. I have it at a setting of 8 high, 1 center, and 10 zoom. With it back like that, the ball cursor is still the same size and it's much harder to accurately hit your spots, strikes or balls. As a result I had to be much more careful around the better hitters and wound up walking 4 batters....unheard of for me against the AI. Made for a MUCH better game.

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    • catcatch22
      Or should I
      • Sep 2003
      • 3378

      #3
      Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

      This is actually not a bad idea, unfortunately I had a perfect TV style behind the pitcher cam. If 2k would make the icon shake all the time this would alleviate the problem and make it much more realistic.

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      • silverandblack
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 159

        #4
        Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

        how about taking the strike zone window off?
        JUST WIN BABY!!

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        • Newfgamer
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 50

          #5
          Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

          Originally posted by silverandblack
          how about taking the strike zone window off?
          Exactly, amazing how such a simple thing is left out, we should be able to turn off the strike zone, at leastthat would help some.

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          • belljr
            Rookie
            • Mar 2003
            • 229

            #6
            Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

            Originally posted by Newfgamer
            Exactly, amazing how such a simple thing is left out, we should be able to turn off the strike zone, at leastthat would help some.

            You can turn it off

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            • Newfgamer
              Rookie
              • Mar 2009
              • 50

              #7
              Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

              Originally posted by belljr
              You can turn it off
              Oh, opps, lol. where? Even with that though it is still too easy.

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              • belljr
                Rookie
                • Mar 2003
                • 229

                #8
                Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                Originally posted by Newfgamer
                Oh, opps, lol. where? Even with that though it is still too easy.
                Game setup or something. It's in the options with ball trail, etc.

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                • catcatch22
                  Or should I
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3378

                  #9
                  Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                  Originally posted by silverandblack
                  how about taking the strike zone window off?
                  Hey genious I always turn the strike zone off. You miss the point completely. It's not about just strikes and balls but the ability to throw the ball where I want exactly all the time!! That is not baseball, I should not be able to throw any pitch any where I want with pinpoint accuracy without worry of missing the location completely.

                  Watch a baseball game and you will see pitchers miss a target outside and end up with the pitch inside. It happens all the time yet in this game it will never happen!! In High Heat this happened alot and made the game extremely fun, sim and unpredictable.

                  EDIT**
                  Sorry did not mean to be so mean, just extremely frustrated.
                  Last edited by catcatch22; 03-09-2009, 12:50 PM.

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                  • stealyerface
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1803

                    #10
                    Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                    Maybe you could edit the pitcher you were using for that game, and have his composure at "Zero". Perhaps it would take a guy getting on base, but it might cause the shakey controller thing to happen all the time?

                    syf
                    "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                    • catcatch22
                      Or should I
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3378

                      #11
                      Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                      Originally posted by stealyerface
                      Maybe you could edit the pitcher you were using for that game, and have his composure at "Zero". Perhaps it would take a guy getting on base, but it might cause the shakey controller thing to happen all the time?

                      syf
                      Then I would have to do it to every single player in the game in order to make the icon shake. As it is right now it is just WAY TOO EASY. To change that many pitchers would take forever not to mention we should be able to adjust this portion of the game through sliders and not have to go through over 500 players manually. The sliders have almost no effect on the difficulty of pitching.

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                      • Lisa_Bonami
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1293

                        #12
                        Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                        Here's how to fix the Pinpoint Pitching accuracy in addition to what you did by turning off the strike zone...

                        Turn OFF Total Control Pitching in the Controller Setup Screen

                        -goto Options
                        -Controller Setup
                        -Hit Right Button until you get to Pitching then switch from Total Control to CLASSIC
                        -Save settings

                        This allows for much more variable and inconsistent pitching. You still have the Shrinking/Growing circle but I believe it really just influences the quality or speed of the pitch and the control is still variable making for a more realistic and unpredictable pitching experience. You'll still hit your spots, like real pitchers do...but less frequently.

                        While I am still frustrated with the all around baseball experience that I get out of this year's game, This has made it a little better.

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                        • stealyerface
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1803

                          #13
                          Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                          Originally posted by catcatch22
                          Then I would have to do it to every single player in the game in order to make the icon shake. As it is right now it is just WAY TOO EASY. To change that many pitchers would take forever not to mention we should be able to adjust this portion of the game through sliders and not have to go through over 500 players manually. The sliders have almost no effect on the difficulty of pitching.
                          What we should be able to do and what we can do are two entirely different things. I understand your point, and I agree. But sometimes you have to work with what you can actually accomplish. So, figure out which pitcher you plan to trot out there as your starter, and edit his composure down to Zero. Not all 500 of them, just the guy you want to try it out with.

                          Then see if it makes the thing shake right off the bat. If it does, well then at least you can try a game that way. If it has absolutely no bearing on the composure meter being pegged at full right from the get-go, then we have discovered yet another area in which edits versus actual player control is not worked correctly.

                          I am not giving you the fix for this thing as there is none. I am giving you a suggestion that you can try as a one time thing to see if your pitcher reacts accordingly to your edit.

                          Take it for what it is worth. We are trying to work through these issues with ways to make them better, we can't fix them

                          syf
                          "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                          • ~Guru~
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 851

                            #14
                            Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                            Originally posted by catcatch22
                            No company can get this right except High Heat. You should not be able to throw a strike any time you want. It ruins the game.

                            In High Heat even when you tried to throw a strike you pitcher would miss the plate forcing you to throw a ball. Now no matter what I will never throw a ball unless I want to. That is not sim.

                            There needs to be a system where you just can't throw a strike on command or at least not have soo much accuracy.

                            Please on the next patch make the pitching icon on the hardest difficulty level move as though your pitcher is uncomposed. As of right now I can place my pitch anywhere I want reguardless of changes to the sliders.

                            Make the pitch icon shake all the time and more violently for bad pitchers. The top pitchers it shakes a little. As of right now it is WAY TOO EASY!
                            what sliders are you using

                            also go to controller settings and turn timing ON and max out the pitching sliders for human...then let me know if it very easy to pin point pitches

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                            • ~Guru~
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 851

                              #15
                              Re: Pitching is TOO EASY!!

                              the only thing this patch needs to do for the pitching is remove the cursor of where to throw the ball...if you take that out and remove vibration...i can tell we will be throwing a lot more junk then strikes...

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